• pace

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:11 pm**

surely the chairman as to think long and hard about Vincent because week in week out the team is losing but worse for me is the performance they are putting in, no fight in the team and confidence they had as been drained from them , will this squad of players we have spent good money on bounce back I'm very worried we might struggle. I know if it was Dyche still as manager he would have been sacked before now . Over to you Alan to try and sort it out..

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:12 pm**

There's too much money been put into the "project" to back out now

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:17 pm**

I hope Pace is asking Kompany what he's doing to try and fix the problems in this team and improve us. I'm scared the answer is nothing.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:18 pm**

Who would replace him?

He's the most beautiful girl in the room.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:31 pm**

cockneyclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:12 pm
There's too much money been put into the "project" to back out now

Exactly the club is in a different position then ever before with all the investments that’s been made.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:32 pm**

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:38 pm**

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:18 pm
Who would replace him?

He's the most beautiful girl in the room.

The lights at the disco have come on at the end of the night, you're starting to sober up and that girl is starting to look extremely rough...

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:39 pm**

Exciting times !!!

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:46 pm**

**** the the project get out our club

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:50 pm**

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:38 pm
The lights at the disco have come on at the end of the night, you're starting to sober up and that girl is starting to look extremely rough...

Better at this stage than waking up in the morning next to her in bed...with big regrets

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:08 pm**

The invisible man Needs to go before the town really turns on him

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:12 pm**

The excuse that it was great teams who were beating us just doesn't hold water anymore.

Palace were anything but a great team, and were without three of their best players.

It's beyond embarrassing and Kompany needs to go now!

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:14 pm**

Pace doesn't have a scooby about footy, lets be honest. Garlick for all his faults wouldn't have allowed his manager to sign a new team to take on the Prem like that, it's inexperience on his part but hopefully will learn from it. Who are we making money on? We're crap

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:14 pm**

Pace doesn’t have a clue if he sticks with Kompany. You would have thought being a Wall Street man that he would have sacked him by now. It’s already too late and we have this dross in the division below next season. I can’t see us doing anything next season why wait to fail, get rid now!

A royal busted flush

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:15 pm**

And Pace doesnt understand football.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:17 pm**

Will be expensive to dump him I would have thought and not sure anybody coming in can save us now, so may as well just see how we start next season

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:19 pm**

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:38 pm
The lights at the disco have come on at the end of the night, you're starting to sober up and that girl is starting to look extremely rough...

Kompany standing in the centre of the dance floor starkers.

The Emperor has no clothes.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:20 pm**

Think Pace is very naive when it comes to football

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:23 pm**

Like I said before....the tail is wagging the dog!!!!

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:25 pm**

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:18 pm
Who would replace him?

He's the most beautiful girl in the room.

She's deteriorated since then.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcuwz3

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:46 pm**

I’m not at the stage where I think VK should be sacked, although I’m not a million miles away.

However if Pace wants to protect his investment in the squad, he’s probably going to have to sack VK because under VK those young signings have lost their value, lost their belief and likely losing the desire to play for Burnley.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:04 pm**

Pace is just as much to blame.

There's not a chance on earth a football manager buys all them young players, without buying any players good enough for the level.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:07 pm**

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:04 pm
Pace is just as much to blame.

There's not a chance on earth a football manager buys all them young players, without buying any players good enough for the level.

They're absolutely VK's players.

Pace has backed him thinking VK had all the answers. I guarantee he will be utterly flummoxed right now.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:19 pm**

I actually think he decided quite some time ago that following last season he was going to stick with Vinny no matter what and he's accepted well before now that we're definitely going down. He seems to have made the decision to let him have another go at promotion next season. Surely if he hadn't decided that, VK would have been potted ages ago!

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:22 pm**

Usually stay away from slagging the board but it’s clear that last season sugar coated their lack of football knowledge

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:25 pm**

Our club is not a project. Problem is Pace & co and VK think it is

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:26 pm**

Have we got a real football man on the board?

Should we be looking for a Director of Football?

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:28 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:26 pm
Have we got a real football man on the board?

Should we be looking for a Director of Football?

IMO if this is the sort of approach they want then yes, but VK wouldn't have that, he wants full reign over everything.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:32 pm**

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:28 pm
IMO if this is the sort of approach they want then yes, but VK wouldn't have that, he wants full reign over everything.

If thats the case, it’s no wonder we are where we are. A group of business men, fawning over Kompany and giving him feee reign to do whatever he chooses, with no one having the wherewithal to question his approach.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:32 pm**

I am flummoxed how people are still looking to blame Pace.

Kompany is the manager, Kompany scouted the players (using his scouting network), Kompany has failed to deliver.

Kompany HAS to go this weekend.

Pace has backed his man, it worked last year, it’s failed this year.

Some of the people on this board won’t be happy until we’re back where ‘we belong’.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:34 pm**

Cooclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:32 pm
I am flummoxed how people are still looking to blame Pace.

Kompany is the manager, Kompany scouted the players (using his scouting network), Kompany has failed to deliver.

Kompany HAS to go this weekend.

Pace has backed his man, it worked last year, it’s failed this year.

Some of the people on this board won’t be happy until we’re back where ‘we belong’.

Pace has backed him to far now, can the board financially afford to sack him and all his set piece coaches and get someone else in

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:35 pm**

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:04 pm
Pace is just as much to blame.

There's not a chance on earth a football manager buys all them young players, without buying any players good enough for the level.

VK picked all the players, Pace saw what happened last season and thought VK could turn players in to gold and thought he was quids in.
Unfortunately VK believed his own hype too and it's all gone tits up, sad thing is he still can't see it

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:35 pm**

Cooclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:32 pm
I am flummoxed how people are still looking to blame Pace.

Kompany is the manager, Kompany scouted the players (using his scouting network), Kompany has failed to deliver.

Kompany HAS to go this weekend.

Pace has backed his man, it worked last year, it’s failed this year.

Some of the people on this board won’t be happy until we’re back where ‘we belong’.

I would suggest Pace has also contributed to the poor transfer strategy and signed-off the purchases.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:38 pm**

Cooclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:32 pm
I am flummoxed how people are still looking to blame Pace.

Kompany is the manager, Kompany scouted the players (using his scouting network), Kompany has failed to deliver.

Kompany HAS to go this weekend.

Pace has backed his man, it worked last year, it’s failed this year.

Some of the people on this board won’t be happy until we’re back where ‘we belong’.

Who decided it was a good idea to dismantle the existing scouting network in favour of using one associated with the current first team manager?

There aren't actually any words to describe a club who run their business like that.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:38 pm**

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:34 pm
Pace has backed him to far now, can the board financially afford to sack him and all his set piece coaches and get someone else in

I can't think of one instance in the history of football where a club in a death spiral withheld from sacking their manager for the very reason that they 'couldn't afford it'.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:42 pm**

Pace? On the way to ruining the club. Almost achieved.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:42 pm**

We may find out soon since it is fast approaching the time of year when he canned Dyche.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:43 pm**

TBH we were all taken in by Kompany last season and begged the owners to tie Kompany down regardless of the cost, we are all to a certain extent culpable.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:44 pm**

Unfortunately Pace uses Vincent’s knowledge of football to run the club. Without the football brain what does he do?

He needs to find another football brain that knows what its doing clearly.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:50 pm**

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:18 pm
Who would replace him?

He's the most beautiful girl in the room.

She's spunked all the money Alan gave her for groceries on cosmetics and it's all come off in the rain.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:51 pm**

The emporer has no clothes on

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:55 pm**

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:34 pm
Pace has backed him to far now, can the board financially afford to sack him and all his set piece coaches and get someone else in

Even if they could afford it, there are two questions

1. Is there anybody who could keep us up ( who would come)

2. Is there anybody better to get us promoted if we get relegated

I would think the answer to both questions is no.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:57 pm**

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:20 pm
Think Pace is very naive when it comes to football

Not as naive as many on this thread.

Sticking with Vincent may be the wise (and cheapest) move.

Sack him, the lower divisions could beckon and the end of the era could be nigh. Keep him, evidence shows there is every chance he will bounce back (and maybe he will decide some players need recycling in the process).

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:59 pm**

Mansfield claret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:55 pm
Even if they could afford it, there are two questions

1. Is there anybody who could keep us up ( who would come)

2. Is there anybody better to get us promoted if we get relegated

I would think the answer to both questions is no.

We were asking the same question two years ago in fairness. Without the Collins handball against Newcastle, question 1 might have been answered yes (and there were fewer games left to save our season at the time), and from the perspective we have now, question 2 looks less daunting than it did 2 years ago.

Dyche's sacking was more surprising than Kompany's would be from this point.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:00 pm**

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:57 pm
Not as naive as many on this thread.

Sticking with Vincent may be the wise (and cheapest) move.

Sack him, the lower divisions could beckon and the end of the era could be nigh. Keep him, evidence shows there is every chance he will bounce back (and maybe he will decide some players need recycling in the process).

Evidence shows? What evidence?

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:00 pm**

Mansfield claret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:55 pm
Even if they could afford it, there are two questions

1. Is there anybody who could keep us up ( who would come)

2. Is there anybody better to get us promoted if we get relegated

I would think the answer to both questions is no.

We aren't staying up and the way things are going this season I wouldn't trust VK to repeat last seasons highs, if by chance he did what confidence would you have in another Prem campaign with him ?

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:01 pm**

Stayingup wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:00 pm
Evidence shows? What evidence?

The evidence of his last Championship title just 9 months ago.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:01 pm**

Mansfield claret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:55 pm
Even if they could afford it, there are two questions

1. Is there anybody who could keep us up ( who would come)

2. Is there anybody better to get us promoted if we get relegated

I would think the answer to both questions is no.

Yeah we are down but that board must of had some reassurance from kompany he will stay in the championship or he should have been sacked weeks ago.

The the face of it yes kompany would be best placed to take us back up but all depends on the squad

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:05 pm**

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:38 pm
Who decided it was a good idea to dismantle the existing scouting network in favour of using one associated with the current first team manager?

There aren't actually any words to describe a club who run their business like that.

I think (don’t know) that will have been one of Kompanys demands to come. He’s an astute business man.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:07 pm**

Cubanforever wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:00 pm
We aren't staying up and the way things are going this season I wouldn't trust VK to repeat last seasons highs, if by chance he did what confidence would you have in another Prem campaign with him ?

Probably the same as I had when we went down with dyche.
A year more experience, players with more experience

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