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NoPenwortham_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:15 amAre people starting to believe the information that I heard at the start of the season yet?
When fit, contractually, Trafford has to start!
There’s nothing else that can explain why Kompany won’t drop him.
steve1264b wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:50 amThe contrast between Brighton and how they have nursed Verbruggen, i think 10 appearances to how we have used Trafford is stark.
In what other position other than goalkeeper would a 20 year old from league one be played in every game?
Yesterday was a mental mistake, he needs a rest. Were looking to sell Muric in the summer. Its time to put him in the shop window.
NoPenwortham_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:15 amAre people starting to believe the information that I heard at the start of the season yet?
When fit, contractually, Trafford has to start!
There’s nothing else that can explain why Kompany won’t drop him.
No, managers chosen his number one and is sticking with him. Rightly or wrongly.Penwortham_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:15 amAre people starting to believe the information that I heard at the start of the season yet?
When fit, contractually, Trafford has to start!
There’s nothing else that can explain why Kompany won’t drop him.
NoPenwortham_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:15 amAre people starting to believe the information that I heard at the start of the season yet?
When fit, contractually, Trafford has to start!
There’s nothing else that can explain why Kompany won’t drop him.
And it’s getting more and more humiliating for him as every game passes.Poulton-le-Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:26 amNo, I just think VK is stubborn and feeling like he has to play his big money signing.
If he hasn't already, Muric will be requesting a move in the summer. As will Roberts, Zaroury and Benson. The way that all of last season's players have been treated is beyond ridiculous. Our starting 11 in August will be another total rebuild, the third in three years, which is simply not sustainable. Mismanagement is one way to describe what is going on, gross negligence is another.Carlos the Great wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:53 amI am going to be seriously disillusioned with VK if he allows Muric to be sold …
You where the guy that said tella was having a medical, think it’s time you looked at your sourcesPenwortham_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:15 amAre people starting to believe the information that I heard at the start of the season yet?
When fit, contractually, Trafford has to start!
There’s nothing else that can explain why Kompany won’t drop him.
I think you’ve had one too many in The Fleece…Penwortham_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:15 amAre people starting to believe the information that I heard at the start of the season yet?
When fit, contractually, Trafford has to start!
There’s nothing else that can explain why Kompany won’t drop him.
Are you not disillusioned already ?Carlos the Great wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:53 amI am going to be seriously disillusioned with VK if he allows Muric to be sold …
Bob Lorder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:22 amI was told months ago that VK had money tied up in the Trafford deal … City have a buy back clause of triple what they paid for him, meaning VK would make a profit of 300% on the deal ..
That’s why he doesn’t get dropped and keeps defending him !
Of course people will try to say I’m wrong & he can’t get involved like this & cite reasons why … but the information came from within the club .. ( You can buy something without actually handing over the cash yourself, a bit like getting a hitman to do a job for you, you get the benefits but you still have to pay ) ..
All will out eventually, we are being played !
Of all the made up ******** I’ve ever read on here this might be the most ridiculous.Bob Lorder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:22 amI was told months ago that VK had money tied up in the Trafford deal … City have a buy back clause of triple what they paid for him, meaning VK would make a profit of 300% on the deal ..
That’s why he doesn’t get dropped and keeps defending him !
Of course people will try to say I’m wrong & he can’t get involved like this & cite reasons why … but the information came from within the club .. ( You can buy something without actually handing over the cash yourself, a bit like getting a hitman to do a job for you, you get the benefits but you still have to pay ) ..
All will out eventually, we are being played !
Sure it will cost him an awful lot more if he destroys his own career and is out of work as a consequence. Not to mention, who would want his scouting system after this?Bob Lorder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:22 amI was told months ago that VK had money tied up in the Trafford deal … City have a buy back clause of triple what they paid for him, meaning VK would make a profit of 300% on the deal ..
That’s why he doesn’t get dropped and keeps defending him !
Of course people will try to say I’m wrong & he can’t get involved like this & cite reasons why … but the information came from within the club .. ( You can buy something without actually handing over the cash yourself, a bit like getting a hitman to do a job for you, you get the benefits but you still have to pay ) ..
All will out eventually, we are being played !
I can believe city’s clause and also that Kompany has skin in the game for development of players and commission on deals where he generates a profit. I don’t think any of these concepts are new.Bob Lorder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:22 amI was told months ago that VK had money tied up in the Trafford deal … City have a buy back clause of triple what they paid for him, meaning VK would make a profit of 300% on the deal ..
That’s why he doesn’t get dropped and keeps defending him !
Of course people will try to say I’m wrong & he can’t get involved like this & cite reasons why … but the information came from within the club .. ( You can buy something without actually handing over the cash yourself, a bit like getting a hitman to do a job for you, you get the benefits but you still have to pay ) ..
All will out eventually, we are being played !
Can’t be true ,we all know how Cities finances have been crawled over the last few years.Bob Lorder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:22 amI was told months ago that VK had money tied up in the Trafford deal … City have a buy back clause of triple what they paid for him, meaning VK would make a profit of 300% on the deal ..
That’s why he doesn’t get dropped and keeps defending him !
Of course people will try to say I’m wrong & he can’t get involved like this & cite reasons why … but the information came from within the club .. ( You can buy something without actually handing over the cash yourself, a bit like getting a hitman to do a job for you, you get the benefits but you still have to pay ) ..
All will out eventually, we are being played !
Spot on. The conspiracy theories around VK playing Trafford to make more money for himself simply do not add up or make sense.Darthlaw wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:32 amI can believe city’s clause and also that Kompany has skin in the game for development of players and commission on deals where he generates a profit. I don’t think any of these concepts are new.
What I don’t believe is VK forgoing his bonus for keeping us in the PL, not to mention his own reputation, on the basis Trafford might suddenly play himself into a £40m+ transfer and city come knocking.
Face it - VK doesnt think Muric is good enough for the PL.
I don't think bringing mental health into it will do any goodIt Is What It Is wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:31 amShipping in shedloads of goals week in and week out can't be good for his mental health.
Totally demoralising to say the least.
I think that there's only one person being played hereBob Lorder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:22 amI was told months ago that VK had money tied up in the Trafford deal … City have a buy back clause of triple what they paid for him, meaning VK would make a profit of 300% on the deal ..
That’s why he doesn’t get dropped and keeps defending him !
Of course people will try to say I’m wrong & he can’t get involved like this & cite reasons why … but the information came from within the club .. ( You can buy something without actually handing over the cash yourself, a bit like getting a hitman to do a job for you, you get the benefits but you still have to pay ) ..
All will out eventually, we are being played !
Well one thing's for sure, Trafford certainly isn't.Darthlaw wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:32 amI can believe city’s clause and also that Kompany has skin in the game for development of players and commission on deals where he generates a profit. I don’t think any of these concepts are new.
What I don’t believe is VK forgoing his bonus for keeping us in the PL, not to mention his own reputation, on the basis Trafford might suddenly play himself into a £40m+ transfer and city come knocking.
Face it - VK doesnt think Muric is good enough for the PL.
You think we can sustain another rebuild in the summer, as naive as this board are, can't imagine they'll agree to that.StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:01 amDoes anyone actually know what The Project is and how long it’s supposed to take?
We’re going to be two years into it come the summer and be exactly where Vincent started - heading to the Championship and a huge rebuild needing to be done.
Get ready to be disillusioned. I've resigned myself that Muric, Benson and Zaroury are gone. He keeps trotting out "everyone's been given a chance" which every single fan can see isn't true. They're never playing for us seriously again (and no, Benson's cameo yesterday was not a serious chance. It was to say 'he, he got a chance, now shut up'.)Carlos the Great wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:53 amI am going to be seriously disillusioned with VK if he allows Muric to be sold …
I don’t think we’ll have much of a choice. Luckily a handful of the big earners are out of contract so we can get them off the books.alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:02 amYou think we can sustain another rebuild in the summer, as naive as this board are, can't imagine they'll agree to that.
Which is why Tresor and Ramsey have about 6 starts between them?Poulton-le-Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:26 amNo, I just think VK is stubborn and feeling like he has to play his big money signing.
If a defender misses tackles or headers - replaced.It Is What It Is wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:31 amShipping in shedloads of goals week in and week out can't be good for his mental health.
Totally demoralising to say the least.
Whilst we all have to sit through a season of watching him (not) develop, whilst playing a different, utterly turgid brand of football to facilitate his inclusion.
AR has been injured/unfit loads this season, before his injury he looked set to become another undroppable. Not a clue about Tresor though apart from his recent illness.
It's project full circle from start to finish.StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:01 amDoes anyone actually know what The Project is and how long it’s supposed to take?
We’re going to be two years into it come the summer and be exactly where Vincent started - heading to the Championship and a huge rebuild needing to be done.
Fixed thatHoltyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:21 amNo, managers chosen his number one and is sticking with him. wrongly.
A pitiful attempt.Bob Lorder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:22 amI was told months ago that VK had money tied up in the Trafford deal … City have a buy back clause of triple what they paid for him, meaning VK would make a profit of 300% on the deal ..
That’s why he doesn’t get dropped and keeps defending him !
Of course people will try to say I’m wrong & he can’t get involved like this & cite reasons why … but the information came from within the club .. ( You can buy something without actually handing over the cash yourself, a bit like getting a hitman to do a job for you, you get the benefits but you still have to pay ) ..
All will out eventually, we are being played !
At least that is plausibleJakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:20 pmIt's a simple case of VK honouring his word to Trafford before Trafford arrived I believe he asked for reassurances that the number 1 spot would be his & he was reassured it would be.