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VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:45 pm
by Nonayforever
3 matches on tonight.
2 will have VAR , one won't.
The cost of VAR at the 2 grounds will be £9251.00 + VAT
This is split 50 / 50 between the 2 clubs., so the away club pays a bigger percentage because they get less of the gate receipts.
Some of the smaller clubs playing away at PL grounds don't have a choice of no VAR or not.
PL clubs getting preferential treatment again ?
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:49 pm
by Bosscat
Don't Blackburn have VAR
they are after all Premiership Champions
... and they keep telling us the're ground is superior to ours
Ohhhh hang a minute thats 30 years ago and they haven't been in the top flight for nigh on 12 years
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:20 pm
by Poulton-le-Claret
Nonayforever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:45 pm
3 matches on tonight.
2 will have VAR , one won't.
The cost of VAR at the 2 grounds will be £9251.00 + VAT
This is split 50 / 50 between the 2 clubs., so the away club pays a bigger percentage because they get less of the gate receipts.
Some of the smaller clubs playing away at PL grounds don't have a choice of no VAR or not.
PL clubs getting preferential treatment again ?
I thought teams shared gate receipts in the cup?
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:24 pm
by Vegas Claret
the main point is that not all the games are played in the same way, it's an absolute farce
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:29 pm
by cbx750
Poulton-le-Claret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:20 pm
I thought teams shared gate receipts in the cup?
Google search shows 45% each after expenses 10% to the FA.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:35 pm
by ElectroClaret
R*vers kick off delayed due to "problems with the turnstiles and crowd getting in."
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:41 pm
by Flixtonclaret1
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:43 pm
by Bosscat
ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:35 pm
R*vers kick off delayed due to "problems with the turnstiles and crowd getting in."
Perhaps the (tennis) ball bags are getting caught in the mechanism ...
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:46 pm
by Jimmymaccer
Does that stand behind the goal hold more than 2,000?
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:47 pm
by fidelcastro
Is the protest thing still happening?
They've said the problems are at the Newcastle turnstiles.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:51 pm
by fidelcastro
Jimmymaccer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:46 pm
Does that stand behind the goal hold more than 2,000?
Not when we go there apparently
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:52 pm
by claretburns
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:47 pm
Is the protest thing still happening?
They've said the problems are at the Newcastle turnstiles.
The protest idea came out after the draw was made, but it has been very quiet since.
Suppose we'll find out in just under half an hour.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:00 pm
by beddie
I read the delay at Blackburn is due to an accident on the motorway, really hope no one is injured.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:08 pm
by Poulton-le-Claret
Really hope Trips grabs a goal tonight
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:16 pm
by Rileybobs
Carnage. Can’t see the game restarting after this.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:16 pm
by RetroClaret
Or three, getting some real stick tonight
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:16 pm
by Poulton-le-Claret
Seen about 10 tennis balls on the pitch on the BBC coverage
took 30 seconds to clear them up.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:16 pm
by ClaretTony
beddie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:00 pm
I read the delay at Blackburn is due to an accident on the motorway, really hope no one is injured.
It was turnstiles - Blackburn tweeted that kick off had been delayed in order to allow as many supporters as possible to enter the ground.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:16 pm
by BurnleyFC
About 6 tennis balls have made it onto the pitch.
Newcastle fans sing “what the ******* hell is that?”
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:17 pm
by claretburns
A really sweet moment really, a tennis ball for each million Venky's have given them so far this year, a touching tribute.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:17 pm
by RetroClaret
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:18 pm
by ElectroClaret
Half-hearted doesn't even begin to cover it.
Pathetic.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:18 pm
by Somethingfishy
As usual.... a pathetic attempt at a protest. Tinpot to the core
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:18 pm
by bfcjg
There's more balls at a eunuchs birthday party.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:19 pm
by jos
Be interesting to see if Blackburn get fined for crowd disorder. Although it was pretty pathetic.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:19 pm
by Poulton-le-Claret
Always great to remember that no matter how bad we are at the minute, we still have not sank as low as them
embarrassing
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:20 pm
by Somethingfishy
There were that few thrown I wouldn't be surprised if the culprits don't get picked out by CCTV and chucked out
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:20 pm
by Rileybobs
Looking forward to the 12 seconds added time.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:21 pm
by ElectroClaret
I really, really hope the V's are watching this in India and
immediately withdraw all funding.
They will if they've any sense.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:25 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Bosscat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:49 pm
Don't Blackburn have VAR
they are after all Premiership Champions
... and they keep telling us the're ground is superior to ours
Ohhhh hang a minute thats 30 years ago and they haven't been in the top flight for nigh on 12 years
They do, Venky’s And Retards.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:44 pm
by steve1264b
Nonayforever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:45 pm
3 matches on tonight.
2 will have VAR , one won't.
The cost of VAR at the 2 grounds will be £9251.00 + VAT
This is split 50 / 50 between the 2 clubs., so the away club pays a bigger percentage because they get less of the gate receipts.
Some of the smaller clubs playing away at PL grounds don't have a choice of no VAR or not.
PL clubs getting preferential treatment again ?
I thought the gate was split 3 ways so the away team doesnt pay more as suggested?
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:45 pm
by Poulton-le-Claret
1 minute added for a half that had a fan protest
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:16 pm
by Commy
Haaland 4 goals and De Bruyne 4 assists.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:29 pm
by ElectroClaret
YOU BEAUTY!!!
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:30 pm
by Poulton-le-Claret
Always liked Anthony Gordon
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:35 pm
by Roosterbooster
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:24 pm
the main point is that not all the games are played in the same way, it's an absolute farce
But they all play by the same rules, VAR or not
And it's the same for both teams playing against each other
I'm no fan of VAR. And I'd scrap it tomorrow
But as the point of VAR is to reduce errors, and increase fairness, then it would seem silly to not use it if it was available (presuming of course that VAR does what it is supposed to do)
Would you make the same argument for goal line technology?
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:41 pm
by Vegas Claret
Roosterbooster wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:35 pm
But they all play by the same rules, VAR or not
And it's the same for both teams playing against each other
I'm no fan of VAR. And I'd scrap it tomorrow
But as the point of VAR is to reduce errors, and increase fairness, then it would seem silly to not use it if it was available (presuming of course that VAR does what it is supposed to do)
Would you make the same argument for goal line technology?
no because goal line tech is not subjective. VAR is re-refereeing the game, they are 100% different ends of the scale and to add to that VAR is not reducing errors nor increasing fairness.
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:35 pm
by wilks_bfc
There was an incident in our Cup game the other year against MK Dons
Keogh got a red card that was reviewed by VAR and overturned. If we had played the game at MK Dons and the incident happened we’d have been playing against 10 men
I’m not claiming the decision was correct or not, just that it should be the same “conditions” regardless of location
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:36 pm
by Roosterbooster
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:41 pm
no because goal line tech is not subjective. VAR is re-refereeing the game, they are 100% different ends of the scale and to add to that VAR is not reducing errors nor increasing fairness.
So is your argument against it that VAR doesn't make things better?
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:45 pm
by Vegas Claret
Roosterbooster wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:36 pm
So is your argument against it that VAR doesn't make things better?
no (but it doesn't make things better). It means some games have 2 refs whilst others only have one, it's just unfair full stop. Let's say it's Burnley v Exeter and Mansfield v Northampton - two identical goals are scored and one gets ruled out at Burnley because the VAR finds a minuscule tug on a player and the Mansfield goal stands because it can't be re-checked. It just doesn't sit right with me that's all
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:51 pm
by Roosterbooster
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:45 pm
no (but it doesn't make things better). It means some games have 2 refs whilst others only have one, it's just unfair full stop. Let's say it's Burnley v Exeter and Mansfield v Northampton - two identical goals are scored and one gets ruled out at Burnley because the VAR finds a minuscule tug on a player and the Mansfield goal stands because it can't be re-checked. It just doesn't sit right with me that's all
But having VAR at Burnley has no bearing on the outcome of the Mansfield game whatsoever. They aren't losing out.
Another way of putting it is that with a different ref, there'd have had a different result. But we don't expect the same ref for every game.
They do, however, all follow the same rules. VAR included. Whether or not VAR makes things better or not is an entirely separate argument
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:54 pm
by Vegas Claret
Roosterbooster wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:51 pm
But having VAR at Burnley has no bearing on the outcome of the Mansfield game whatsoever. They aren't losing out.
Another way of putting it is that with a different ref, there'd have had a different result. But we don't expect the same ref for every game.
They do, however, all follow the same rules. VAR included. Whether or not VAR makes things better or not is an entirely separate argument
we aren't going to agree
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:55 pm
by Roosterbooster
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:54 pm
we aren't going to agree
Fair enough
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:56 pm
by Vegas Claret
completely changing topic - is the username anything to do with Kevin Russell ?
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:10 pm
by timshorts
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:45 pm
no (but it doesn't make things better). It means some games have 2 refs whilst others only have one, it's just unfair full stop. Let's say it's Burnley v Exeter and Mansfield v Northampton - two identical goals are scored and one gets ruled out at Burnley because the VAR finds a minuscule tug on a player and the Mansfield goal stands because it can't be re-checked. It just doesn't sit right with me that's all
That's far too hypothetical. You missed out the badge checking stage. We'd not have it ruled out if we were playing exeter. Change exeter to Everton and Mansfield to man united and then the example works perfectly
Re: VAR & the FA cup
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:37 pm
by Roosterbooster
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:56 pm
completely changing topic - is the username anything to do with Kevin Russell ?
A little
I acquired the nickname Rooster at the same time as he played for us. Then Dean who was part of the Centre of Excellence etc started calling me Roosterbooster, so I thought it'd be a suitable username
they are after all Premiership Champions 
... and they keep telling us the're ground is superior to ours 
