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Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:03 am
by burnley007
Which of these is more important to you on Sunday?
- Team Sheet, (Benson, Muric, Cork et al)
- Performance, (grit, fight, determination, formation etc)
- Result, (getting points).
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:08 am
by claretonthecoast1882
1 - Result
2 - Performance
3 - Team Sheet
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:09 am
by Nori1958
Result, then performance, don't give a toss about the team sheet
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:11 am
by Newcastleclaret93
Not even bothered about the result or who plays.
Just want to watch a competitive game where our lads come of the pitch with a bit of sweat on the shirt.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:14 am
by StayingDown4Ever
Team sheet - see if Vincent finally swallows his pride
Performance - no more cowardly displays
Result - doesn’t matter, we’re already down
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:15 am
by Goobs
The time for must wins has gone now in regards to survival but for the good of everyone we need them to find a way to win this game.
A good performance showing desire and fight would be a good way to get many fans back onside regardless of the 11 he chooses. In fact a win by a changed 11 could almost be used to vindicate feelings in those that are strongly against VK.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:16 am
by dsr
A good meal in the Longside Lounge. I'm almost tempted to go home after that! (The way Bournemouth played against Man C, I have no expectations of getting a result.)
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:19 am
by corporal jones
Winning at golf in Portugal.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:19 am
by Boss Hogg
StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:14 am
Team sheet - see if Vincent finally swallows his pride
Performance - no more cowardly displays
Result - doesn’t matter, we’re already down
This. If he’s not willing to change, adapt and accept where he’s gone wrong then there’s no hope going forward.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:32 am
by burnleymik
Team sheet.
He has to be prepared to change what isn't and hasn't worked all season. If he still shows no willingness to adapt then what little faith in him I have left will disappear.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:44 am
by rufus lumley
For me it's
The Result
Then The Result
Then The Result.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:46 am
by Jamesy
Not having any delays or issues on the trains on the way up. Northern are on strike on Friday so hopefully no knock on effect through to Sunday.
The football is largely irrelevant now. It’s soulless.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:47 am
by Rick_Muller
Result
Result
Result
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:50 am
by burnley007
I understand why the result is important, but if it's the same team, playing the same way and we fluke a result, does that change anything?
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:50 am
by taio
I don't see how it can be anything other than this.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:09 am
by snapcrackleandpop
StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:14 am
Team sheet - see if Vincent finally swallows his pride
Performance - no more cowardly displays
Result - doesn’t matter, we’re already down
This.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:21 am
by AGENT_CLARET
1 - Performance
2 - Team Sheet
3 - Result
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:49 am
by beddie
Result
Performance
Team sheet
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:04 am
by Shaggy
Although we are already relegated, the Result always has to be the priority followed by the performance and the team sheet is the least of importance so long as the first 2 are achieved.
It cannot be any other combination
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:06 am
by Firthy
IMO all 3 are equally important.
Team sheet - VK needs to show he's flexible and give others a chance.
Performance - we need to show to aggression and fight and that the players actually care
Result - although relegation is a foregone conclusion we need a win for the confidence of the players and management
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:23 am
by Tribesmen
3 Points ........................
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:24 am
by Rileybobs
Weird that anyone would find the team selection more important than the performance or result. Surely the important thing is fielding a team that will compete and get results.
If we started with Muric and Benson for example and then put in our worst performance of the season and got our heaviest defeat how would this be a positive?
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:26 am
by claretonthecoast1882
I must be reading this wrong but some replies are reading like "I don't care if we lose so long as my favourite payers play"
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:27 am
by expoultryboy
EFFORT
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:33 am
by ElectroClaret
It will always be result first for me and yes, it's too late this season, but i can only ever hope for a Burnley win when we play any game.
If we can put a good performance in alongside getting 3 points, so much the better.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:38 am
by mickleoverclaret
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:24 am
Weird that anyone would find the team selection more important than the performance or result.
Surely the important thing is fielding a team that will compete and get results.
If we started with Muric and Benson for example and then put in our worst performance of the season and got our heaviest defeat how would this be a positive?
The manager is continuously failing to do this, which is why the team selection is such a big focus. You're right, though- if Trafford and Amdouni suddenly turn up and we win, I won't mind.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:41 am
by HahaYeah
Anyone more concerned about the team sheet must be wrong in the head.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:44 am
by Murger
1) Performance
2) Lineup
3) Result
I want to see the players look like they actually give a ****. The lackadaisical attitude is what is really ******* me off.
The result is irrelevant now, we’ve gone.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:01 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Winning first of 6 we need no excuses no players hiding .100% effort only acceptable standard
Win and staying up still on UTC
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:01 pm
by NL Claret
Most important for me is that Benson, Cork and Jay Rod all start. The future.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:04 pm
by alwaysaclaret
burnley007 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:50 am
I understand why the result is important, but if it's the same team, playing the same way and we fluke a result, does that change anything?
This
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:07 pm
by Goliath
Its all important really, for me i want to see a return to a style Kompany genuinely believes in now. He should at least die on his own sword.
I think the keeper thing needs dealing with. If trafford starts then the crowd could really turn if he makes any mistakes or shows any hesitation even. Muric starts and the crowd is up from the off. Its a no brainer
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:08 pm
by Quickenthetempo
The result.
But we need to see improvement. Seeing improvement will keep Vinny in a job a bit longer and give him more time to get things right.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:17 pm
by alwaysaclaret
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:26 am
I must be reading this wrong but some replies are reading like "I don't care if we lose so long as my favourite payers play"
It's about attempting to get a result by giving a chance to players that haven't had a fair chance this season after 3 wins in 26 games, so why not try something different by giving the players that were instrumental in our season last season, cos the players selected so far are not doing very well. Not a case of playing favourite players, it's more about the manager trying something that he's not yet tried so far this season, a fair chance to "all"
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:21 pm
by bobinho
2
Everything else is inevitable.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:23 pm
by aggi
If the result and the performance are there then I'd say, by definition, Kompany has got the team sheet right.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:37 pm
by CoolClaret
Result #1
If that isn't what we wanted then look to the performance, if the performance isn't there then look to the team sheet, if the team sheet is the same... then look at the manager.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:43 pm
by Pickles
We've been down and out for about two months. Burnley for much of the season have been some weird art installation/horror movie/social experiment.
At this point I think I'd just like Muric in goal. At least give us a bit of razzmatazz with our relegation.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:44 pm
by bfcjg
Result
Team sheet
Performance
It might show that a different team sheet equates to a result
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:04 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
Teamsheet
Performance
Result
For me Kompany has to start showing that poor performances by individuals are held to account because there appears to be a cosy club that runs throughout the team currently
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:08 pm
by burnleymik
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:24 am
Weird that anyone would find the team selection more important than the performance or result. Surely the important thing is fielding a team that will compete and get results.
If we started with Muric and Benson for example and then put in our worst performance of the season and got our heaviest defeat how would this be a positive?
It's not about the team. It's about seeing the VK is willing to change and adapt. Half my issue with my faith loss in him is how he picks under performing players every single week, without fail and without fail they let the team down.
The result, at this point, doesn't really matter as it changes nothing.
The performance however is important. We need to see fight. We need to see people willing to give everything for the shirt and their manager.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:09 pm
by brexit
Bring a couple of Germans over, and we are being taken for a fry up at a place called Inghams diner. I hope it's good have had a full English for ages.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:20 pm
by mikeS
The most important thing on a Sunday has to be...
What's for tea?
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:20 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:17 pm
It's about attempting to get a result by giving a chance to players that haven't had a fair chance this season after 3 wins in 26 games, so why not try something different by giving the players that were instrumental in our season last season, cos the players selected so far are not doing very well. Not a case of playing favourite players, it's more about the manager trying something that he's not yet tried so far this season, a fair chance to "all"
That seems an awful lot of words to say playing Muric is more important than winning
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:22 pm
by Jamesy
burnleymik wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:08 pm
It's not about the team. It's about seeing the VK is willing to change and adapt. Half my issue with my faith loss in him is how he picks under performing players every single week, without fail and without fail they let the team down.
The result, at this point, doesn't really matter as it changes nothing.
The performance however is important. We need to see fight. We need to see people willing to give everything for the shirt and their manager.
Good post. I think the least we as supporters should expect to be seeing, is what you said in your last sentence.
Not a lot to ask really from well paid professional footballers.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:26 pm
by boyyanno
Performance
Result
Line-up
Normally I'd have result first but given we're already down I just want to see improvement, a clear direction, and learning from previous mistakes.
Not bothered who starts as long as they preform, but I will be bothered if the same players keep playing whilst not performing.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:33 pm
by Jamesy
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:20 pm
That seems an awful lot of words to say playing Muric is more important than winning
I think he may be alluding towards Cork and Benson also? Thought it wouldn’t take long for the pro Trafford agenda to surface.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:41 pm
by BurnleyFC
Performance
Result
Team sheet
I think we need to see at least a good performance, irrespective of the result because we’re going down anyway.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:53 pm
by dcunningham27
Would honestly be happy with the players just showing a bit of desire and fight for once more than anything with the result not mattering much.
Can't think of one home game this season (maybe sheff u) that they have looked even the slightest bit up for the game.
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:10 pm
by summitclaret
Boss Hogg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:19 am
This. If he’s not willing to change, adapt and accept where he’s gone wrong then there’s no hope going forward.
Correct. If he still can't see that we need 3 proper centre midfielders and at least try to control a game and be in with a chance of something towards the end, then all hope is gone.