Sums it up for me.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c4nknrx8kwpo

I stopped reading when I saw who had written it

She was a champion of ALK/VSL and Alan Pace for a long time (including dismissing some of the issues I have discussed at a number of us have discussed at length regarding the takeover and subsequent management) and is a member of the Fan Advisory Board (along with two other of her pod-mates) it is interesting what makes people turn and change tone.

I didn’t know who Natalie Bromley was until it was explained above. I guess when reality finally kicks you in the teeth it can have a way of making you re-assess your initial views. Mind you, the little piece itself was OK. Stating the obvious really.

I decided to carry on reading the article as its only short, but wish I hadn't, why does she think she speaks for all burnley fans, surely the word "some" should have been placed in front of her final sentence
" Burnley fans are completely disengaged from this team and this manager. It is going to take some work by Alan Pace to reconnect it."

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

The Fan Advisory Board always was and always will be a joke.

I don’t think she has turned or changed opinion on Alan Pace, the board/ ALK she is still very much in support of them if you listen to what she says on the NNN podcast. She has however recently changed her view on Kompany and this current Burnley. Not sure if there are a few personal gripes being aired on here but I for 1 find her to be an extremely intelligent and knowledgeable Burnley fan who points her point across extremely well whenever I have listed to her on talksport or whatever.

I do agree with Nori though her wording is bad in this article she shouldn’t speak for all Burnley fans but if comments on here, Twitter etc are anything to go by she is speaking for quite a lot of people.

JarrowClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:44 am

I don’t think she has turned or changed opinion on Alan Pace, the board/ ALK she is still very much in support of them if you listen to what she says on the NNN podcast. She has however recently changed her view on Kompany and this current Burnley. Not sure if there are a few personal gripes being aired on here but I for 1 find her to be an extremely intelligent and knowledgeable Burnley fan who points her point across extremely well whenever I have listed to her on talksport or whatever.

I do agree with Nori though her wording is bad in this article she shouldn’t speak for all Burnley fans but if comments on here, Twitter etc are anything to go by she is speaking for quite a lot of people.

No doubting her intelligence, or the fact that she understands a lot of the finance stuff, and in the main is extremely articulate and worth a listen.

I can understand her frustration, but she doesn't speak for me.

Always comes across as attention hungry.

Agree with the comments about talking on behalf of others, people seem to do in the hope some will come with them on their whinge. For record I feel as engaged/disengaged with the club as I have always done.

Nori1958 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:28 am

I decided to carry on reading the article as its only short, but wish I hadn't, why does she think she speaks for all burnley fans, surely the word "some" should have been placed in front of her final sentence
" Burnley fans are completely disengaged from this team and this manager. It is going to take some work by Alan Pace to reconnect it."

"most" probably more realistic

I learnt nothing from that.

Burnley Football Club used to be known for its hard work and effort under season Sean Dyche. The new manager, Vincent Kompany, doesn't play with that ethos and doesn't play the players who got us promoted back into the Premier League, like Benson and Zaroury. I wonder if the chairman, Alan Pace, has noticed?

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Under the seasoned leadership of Sean Dyche, Burnley Football Club, he cultivated a reputation synonymous with grit, determination, and an unwavering work ethic. Dyche's tenure was marked by a blue-collar approach that resonated deeply with players and fans alike. His managerial philosophy instilled a sense of unity and resilience within the squad, transforming Burnley into a formidable force on the pitch.

However, the winds of change swept through Turf Moor with the appointment of Vincent Kompany as the new manager. Kompany brought with him a fresh perspective that diverged from the established ethos of hard work and effort. While Dyche's tactics relied heavily on discipline and defensive solidity, Kompany ushered in a more expansive style of play, favouring flair and creativity.

This shift in managerial approach has left some fans disconcerted, particularly regarding Kompany's team selection. Notably, seasoned players who played pivotal roles in Burnley's promotion back into the Premier League, such as Benson and Zaroury, have been sidelined under Kompany's reign. The omission of these stalwarts has raised questions among supporters about the direction the club is heading.

Many wonder if chairman Alan Pace has taken note of these changes. As the steward of Burnley Football Club, Pace is responsible for steering the club towards success while staying true to its traditions and values. Whether he shares the fans' concerns regarding the departure from Dyche's ethos and the exclusion of key players remains a speculation among the Burnley faithful. As the season progresses, all eyes will be on Turf Moor to see how the club navigates this transition period under Kompany's leadership and whether Pace intervenes to address any perceived deviations from Burnley's identity.

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An embarrassing read, arrogant nonsense pandering to the "We want success now" brigade.
No doubt a couple of wins this season or a cracking start to next and er, "most" fans will be back on board.

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:56 am

An embarrassing read, arrogant nonsense pandering to the "We want success now" brigade.
No doubt a couple of wins this season or a cracking start to next and er, "most" fans will be back on board.

Or not if it goes down hill

Think it's very easy to understand why the BBC would rather publish this sort of quick opinion piece than someone explaining why it's actually good that we're going down without a whimper and the only problem at Burnley is fans moaning.

It's not too easy to understand why people would think this sort of thing is meant to be informative to other Burnley fans, but I suspect the people moaning about it know what they're doing.

Wokingclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:51 am

"most" probably more realistic

I'll stick with some.....
Not a scientific test, but the vote for Kompany to stay or go on here, the majority wanted him to stay, so the bit about the manager shouldn't read most.

If Benson and Zaroury are “stalwarts”, I don’t know the meaning of the word!

Nori1958 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:05 pm

I'll stick with some.....
Not a scientific test, but the vote for Kompany to stay or go on here, the majority wanted him to stay, so the bit about the manager shouldn't read most.

They may well want him to stay, but I bet most are fed up with this season.

Since62 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:07 am

Sums it up for me.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c4nknrx8kwpo

Sad but true for me.

Wokingclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:08 pm

They may well want him to stay, but I bet most are fed up with this season.

Fed up is a little different from what she said, had she said fed up, I wouldn't have mentioned it.

Nori1958 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:12 pm

Fed up is a little different from what she said, had she said fed up, I wouldn't have mentioned it.

Well I could have used more colourful words, but I was being polite

She’s just another one of the wannabe famous social media football fans.

Another member of the Alan Pace brown nosing gang, sorry I meant the fan advisory board. It seems her inclusion in that has gone to her head, she’s now got the power to speak for us all!

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:50 am

Always comes across as attention hungry.

Been that way since primary school.

“Burnley fans are completely disengaged from this team and this manager. It is going to take some work by Alan Pace to reconnect it”

Not a clue who she is but I don’t think this is inaccurate.

Once we start trouncing teams in the Champ those fans will begin to feel engaged again.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:29 pm

She’s just another one of the wannabe famous social media football fans.

Another member of the Alan Pace brown nosing gang, sorry I meant the fan advisory board. It seems her inclusion in that has gone to her head, she’s now got the power to speak for us all!

^^ had his application rejected for the FAB

“Burnley fans are completely disengaged from this team and this manager. It is going to take some work by Alan Pace to reconnect it”

Results, its just results

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:55 pm

“Burnley fans are completely disengaged from this team and this manager. It is going to take some work by Alan Pace to reconnect it”

Results, its just results

I'm sure nobody used buzzwords like "disengaged" or "disconnected" when we went nearly half a season without winning under Cotterill.

She’s entitled to voice her opinions and perceptions but not to speak for all. The BBC are really to blame - they have her as the contact when they want a fan’s point of view. They give her a platform and don’t put the effort to find other podcasters / fan groups / organisations etc.

Her article seems pretty bang on to what you hear day to day off fans.
The only ones that I've heard think different are the few left on here still defending this garbage

LincsWoldsClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:00 pm

She’s entitled to voice her opinions and perceptions but not to speak for all. The BBC are really to blame - they have her as the contact when they want a fan’s point of view. They give her a platform and don’t put the effort to find other podcasters / fan groups / organisations etc.

Over the last 20 years it’s always been the same three or four faces you see getting interviewed or asked to comment on club related stuff. I assume they just go to what appear to be the most popular sites/ podcasts and ask the owner of it to share their opinion.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that article and in the main it is an accurate read of the landscape.

The only exception is a few grumpy old men on here who like the sound of their own voice.

It's "Fan's voice", not "Fans' voice"

Therefore she is entitled to say whatever she thinks

I'm not sure why there's so much unhappiness here

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:25 pm

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that article and in the main it is an accurate read of the landscape.

The only exception is a few grumpy old men on here who like the sound of their own voice.

Who whilst complaining about a fan claiming to be speaking for the majority, claim themselves to speak for the majority.

When you’re “disengaged” but use various platforms to keep talking about the thing you’re “disengaged” from.

Sounds pretty bang on to me.

She appeared on the tv programme about JJ Watt and spoke about us winning the league in 1960 with only two professional players in Elder and McIlroy. She said the rest worked down the mine on a Saturday morning and then turned up at the Turf in their working clothes, got changed and played.

How do people come up with this nonsense?

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:36 pm

She appeared on the tv programme about JJ Watt and spoke about us winning the league in 1960 with only two professional players in Elder and McIlroy. She said the rest worked down the mine on a Saturday morning and then turned up at the Turf in their working clothes, got changed and played.

How do people come up with this nonsense?

Surely she didn’t say that!? My word!

StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:38 pm

Surely she didn’t say that!? My word!

Oh she did

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:41 pm

Oh she did

How embarrassing.

Do we know if these Fan Advisory Board meetings still take place? Are there any minutes from their meetings that we are aware of?

I submitted a question to four of them asking for it to be raised at a meeting and only heard back from one of them acknowledging my request. I never did get a response to it or know if they actually even raised it at their group.

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:16 am

She was a champion of ALK/VSL and Alan Pace for a long time (including dismissing some of the issues I have discussed at a number of us have discussed at length regarding the takeover and subsequent management) and is a member of the Fan Advisory Board (along with two other of her pod-mates) it is interesting what makes people turn and change tone.

The 'fan-advisory board' is about as useful as an ethics committee in North Korea - gives some fans a false sense of entitlement/influence as though whatever they say/do/care matters one jot, more than likely it's just another easy way for some PR from Pace to trickle down to the BFC fans that will lap it up

I mean honestly - check this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4-cdqMIXU0&t=2815s

Alan Pace - "I want (us) to win a Champions League"

Pace is either nuts or thinks those sat on the 'fan-advisory board' will lap up any old crap - "you believed him, you believed that's what he wants".

Deary me.

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:50 am

I can understand her frustration, but she doesn't speak for me.

Doesn’t speak for me either.

LincsWoldsClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:00 pm

She’s entitled to voice her opinions and perceptions but not to speak for all.

I don't think Ms. Bromley's any different from most podcasters and bloggers in that respect; suggesting or at least implying that 'your' views are those that are held by the 'majority' seems to come with the territory; I suspect that's important with regard to achieving and maintaining the necessary hits/clicks to pay you a wage... truth and reality will always become a secondary consideration.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:36 pm

She appeared on the tv programme about JJ Watt and spoke about us winning the league in 1960 with only two professional players in Elder and McIlroy. She said the rest worked down the mine on a Saturday morning and then turned up at the Turf in their working clothes, got changed and played.

How do people come up with this nonsense?

That's the problem with you Tony, too much of a details man

StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:45 pm

How embarrassing.

Do we know if these Fan Advisory Board meetings still take place? Are there any minutes from their meetings that we are aware of?

I submitted a question to four of them asking for it to be raised at a meeting and only heard back from one of them acknowledging my request. I never did get a response to it or know if they actually even raised it at their group.

I found the minutes on the Club Site in the summary of FAB meetings:https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/mor ... ters-clubs

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:16 am

She was a champion of ALK/VSL and Alan Pace for a long time (including dismissing some of the issues I have discussed at a number of us have discussed at length regarding the takeover and subsequent management) and is a member of the Fan Advisory Board (along with two other of her pod-mates) it is interesting what makes people turn and change tone.

She’s terrible, never liked her or her ramblings to be honest. Absolutely not shocked she’s on the FAB

StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:45 pm

How embarrassing.

Do we know if these Fan Advisory Board meetings still take place? Are there any minutes from their meetings that we are aware of?

I submitted a question to four of them asking for it to be raised at a meeting and only heard back from one of them acknowledging my request. I never did get a response to it or know if they actually even raised it at their group.

I was blocked on Twitter by a few of the fairer sex that are on the FAB for asking for minutes. They stated they had had a few good meetings with interesting points raised but was very much “we know something you don’t know”

Minutes from last FAB meeting.

https://media-cdn.incrowdsports.com/aac ... b1548d.pdf

LlandennyClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:52 pm

I found the minutes on the Club Site in the summary of FAB meetings:https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/mor ... ters-clubs

Thanks for that.

Have meeting minutes always been released over the years or is this a new thing from this group?