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No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:46 am
by burnley007
Does anyone have the full words to this written down?

My son wants it.

Cheers.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:25 am
by ClaretsPadiham
I went to an ale house I used to frequent,
I saw Kenny b@stard his money was spent,
He asked me to play, I answered him 'NAY!'
Said 'Rubbish like yours I can beat any day'.

And it's No, Nay Never, No nay never no more, til we play b@stard Rovers, No never no more.

Ewoods now empty, it's getting knocked down, they play their games on a piece of waste ground,
Jack Walker on the touchline says something's not right
There's far more players than supporters in sight.

And it's No, Nay Never, No nay never no more, til we play B@stard Rovers, No never no more.

A couple of years later, and we rule reign supreme,
The league and the cup have been won by our team, b@stards went bankrupt and long since have died, and Jack Walker sweeps upon Burnley's Longside.

And it's No, Nay Never, No nay never no more, til we play b@stard Rovers, No never no more.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:32 am
by daveisaclaret
It's will we play ******* Rovers, not til we play

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:44 am
by gawthorpe_view
'Will not till'.
It's even written incorrectly on the ceiling beams in the Royal Dyche.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:47 am
by claptrappers_union
It has always been 'til' to me.

However, here's the original lyrics

And it's no, nay, never
No, nay never no more
Will I play the wild rover
No never no more

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:53 am
by claptrappers_union
That said the context of the song is different to the original - Burnley fans have not been a 'wild Rover for many a year' and we wont 'play the wild rover no more' - because we are not wild rovers....

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:54 am
by distortiondave
It's not a hopeful ditty about how Rovers recover from going bust, having ewood knocked down and their benefactor sweeping up for us, like some sort of footballing Lazarus and we are singing until we meet again; we are revelling in their demise and singing that we will never play them again.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:54 am
by burnley007
Cheers guys

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:56 am
by Quickenthetempo
claptrappers_union wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:47 am
It has always been 'til' to me.

However, here's the original lyrics

And it's no, nay, never
No, nay never no more
Will I play the wild rover
No never no more
That's because you grew up in an era where Rovers were on top.

The original song was to mock Rovers being in the division below and not playing us.
We we play Blackburn Rovers? No never, no more.

When we were 2 divisions below, the words changed to till we play them.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:02 am
by claptrappers_union
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:56 am
That's because you grew up in an era where Rovers were on top.

The original song was to mock Rovers being in the division below and not playing us.
We we play Blackburn Rovers? No never, no more.

When we were 2 divisions below, the words changed to till we play them.
I suppose there's something to that. But I've never noticed fans chanting, 'Will we play?' but I've never listened out for it.

That said, when I was really little, I thought the lyrics were

"I answered him Nay
That Peter Schmiechel, I can beat any day"

Why I thought these were the words, I have no idea.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:54 am
by TheFamilyCat
Silly argument but....

The song’s been sung since long before Kenny Dalglish and Jack Walker.

So technically there are no "right" words. Maybe it's time to replace Jack with Mrs Rao.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:57 am
by ArmchairDetective
As others have said, I understand it used to be will, then changed to 'til when we weren't doing so well. I quite like the 'til version as it's a bit tongue in cheek these days with us being well and truly on top :D

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:32 pm
by bfcjg
Goes back well before Walker we used to sing about the manager at the time sweeping the Longside.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:43 pm
by claptrappers_union
It was always 'Kenny *******' to me, but I think it depends on if the name fits... like 'Souness *******'. I remember it from Kenny Dalgleish's days, but I presumed since then the Kenny ******* name just became generic 'Blackburn Rovers man.'

Do we ever get to Ewood is empty a bit these days?

Its weird how the chant evolves, but I never really noticed.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:46 pm
by Westleigh
We use to sing
Come to Ewood ,come to Ewood ,it’s a place of misery
There’s a sign above the turnstile advertising VD
Don’t believe ,don’t believe it ,it’s all a pack of lies
If it wasn’t for Blackburn Rovers it would be a paradise.
We didn’t call them Bastards in the 60’s can’t remember when that strarted.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:47 pm
by South West Claret.
Sounds familiar 😃

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:58 pm
by dougcollins
No nay never, no nay never no more, 'til we play..

Makes no sense whatsoever.

Always been 'will', always will be.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:50 pm
by Sozturf7
Westleigh wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:46 pm
We use to sing
Come to Ewood ,come to Ewood ,it’s a place of misery
There’s a sign above the turnstile advertising VD
Don’t believe ,don’t believe it ,it’s all a pack of lies
If it wasn’t for Blackburn Rovers it would be a paradise.
We didn’t call them Bastards in the 60’s can’t remember when that strarted.
Think you have this almost spot on, however I believe where you have VD it was welcome unto thee.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:52 pm
by Juan Tanamera
We started singing this on the old Longside in the early 70's when we were a division above t'rovers.
What say you Houseboy?🤔

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:07 pm
by 59claret
“There’s a notice above the doorway saying welcome unto thee “

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:43 pm
by Longford Claret
I always wondered why Blackburn sing a version of the same song. The traditional Wild Rover , Irish folk song urges people not to be a Rover as it leads to a life of misery etc. Blackburn fans sing a song that is telling you not to be a Rover.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:46 pm
by dougcollins
Longford Claret wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:43 pm
I always wondered why Blackburn sing a version of the same song. The traditional Wild Rover , Irish folk song urges people not to be a Rover as it leads to a life of misery etc. Blackburn fans sing a song that is telling you not to be a Rover.
And then claiming they had it first.

The clue is in the lyrics, as you say.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:17 pm
by TheFamilyCat
My son sings Basket Rovers. As he's only 7, I've not corrected him.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:19 pm
by Carwin261
59claret wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:07 pm
“There’s a notice above the doorway saying welcome unto thee “
Always thought I was singing the wrong lyrics ,makes sense now after 60 + years.😂

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:32 pm
by No Ney Never
I thought the first verse is;
When I was a young lad my dad said to me
A Blackburn bstrd son you'll never be,
I brought you to Turf Moor to watch Claret and Blue,
This my son is what you must always do,
And it's no nay never, no nay never no more,
Will we play bstrd rovers, no nay never no more.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:40 am
by Longford Claret
No Ney Never wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:32 pm
I thought the first verse is;
When I was a young lad my dad said to me
A Blackburn bstrd son you'll never be,
I brought you to Turf Moor to watch Claret and Blue,
This my son is what you must always do,
And it's no nay never, no nay never no more,
Will we play bstrd rovers, no nay never no more.
This has to be the definitive answer, it is your song after all 😉

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:35 am
by Corky
When I first started singing it I am pretty sure the penniless manager I saw in the ale house was Gordon Lee.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:47 am
by dougcollins
Corky wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:35 am
When I first started singing it I am pretty sure the penniless manager I saw in the ale house was Gordon Lee.
The first year I remember this is 1974, so that would be right.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:00 pm
by Rileybobs
TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:17 pm
My son sings Basket Rovers. As he's only 7, I've not corrected him.
It was my lad's first season last season and he thought it was 'will we play Bastien Roberts'.

Re: No Nay Never...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:08 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:00 pm
It was my lad's first season last season and he thought it was 'will we play Bastien Roberts'.
Which has changed this season to "will we play Benson Muric".