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Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:43 pm
by Vegas Claret
fractured his ankle, out for the season. Shame that as I'm sure he would have got a good reception at the Turf

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:58 pm
by Targetman
Probably played his last game for Brentford.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:03 pm
by Carlos the Great
Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:43 pm
fractured his ankle, out for the season. Shame that as I'm sure he would have got a good reception at the Turf
You would like to think he would get a good reception after 10 years at the Turf but you never know … I mens Dwight McNeil should have been applauded but for some inexplicable reason booed every time touched the ball ..

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:04 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Very similar in the way he got injured and put an end to his Burnley career.

Went for the tackle, hurt himself and tried to run it off.

Same week as well.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:05 pm
by Bowclaret
Get him fit and get him back in to captain us next season !

Sure he would love it and exactly the leader we have been missing and desperately need.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:08 pm
by equinox
I reckon if we'd played Ben at the back on his own, just him no other centre halves or full backs, we'd have conceded fewer goals this season.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:16 pm
by bobinho
Carlos the Great wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:03 pm
You would like to think he would get a good reception after 10 years at the Turf but you never know … I mens Dwight McNeil should have been applauded but for some inexplicable reason booed every time touched the ball ..
Quite simple really imho…. Ben Mee was an outstanding player for us - put his body on the line many times whilst wearing our shirt. He was a superb captain too, none more so than when he came out for the post match interview at city…. He had a fabulous ten years with and for us.
McNeil was undoubtedly a very good player, good skills and very exciting to watch during his emergence…. Sadly his body language was poor, and his effort levels on occasion were even poorer and over a lesser period of time.

For the record, I’m not one of those who boo Dwight even though I’m not a big fan… I disagree with it in fact, but I’m just offering an explanation as to why I think it happens.

Mee would undoubtedly get a great reception.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:36 pm
by clansman
Mcneils work rate even in his final season was as good as anyone’s if you check the stats. He just had an unfortunate way of holding his arms , almost Chris waddle like which gave the appearance of a slightly lethargic mind set! Great player massively underrated.
As for Ben Mee a true Burnley legend !

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:38 pm
by ClaretTony
Looked concerning when he went off - horrible news for him

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:39 pm
by Carwin261
Bowclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:05 pm
Get him fit and get him back in to captain us next season !

Sure he would love it and exactly the leader we have been missing and desperately need.
Just thinking aloud but there don’t seem to be as many leaders who stand out in other Premier League sides like there used to be ,VVD for Liverpool is the best one ,and perhaps Tarks at Everton,can’t think of any more,we definitely don’t seem to have one.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:42 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Ten posts and nobody's complained that we don't reveal injury news but Brentford do.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:43 pm
by Sozturf7
equinox wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:08 pm
I reckon if we'd played Ben at the back on his own, just him no other centre halves or full backs, we'd have conceded fewer goals this season.
Rather silly.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:49 pm
by Carwin261
TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:42 pm
Ten posts and nobody's complained that we don't reveal injury news but Brentford do.
If you google last Prem league injuries there’s a list ,can’t weigh it up .

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:23 pm
by Carlos the Great
bobinho wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:16 pm
Quite simple really imho…. Ben Mee was an outstanding player for us - put his body on the line many times whilst wearing our shirt. He was a superb captain too, none more so than when he came out for the post match interview at city…. He had a fabulous ten years with and for us.
McNeil was undoubtedly a very good player, good skills and very exciting to watch during his emergence…. Sadly his body language was poor, and his effort levels on occasion were even poorer and over a lesser period of time.

For the record, I’m not one of those who boo Dwight even though I’m not a big fan… I disagree with it in fact, but I’m just offering an explanation as to why I think it happens.

Mee would undoubtedly get a great reception.
Ben Mee undoubtedly the very best defender I think we have had in 10 years .. he headed the ball away while lying on the ground when an attacker running in says evetyhjng you need to know about him . But Ben mee can’t do what McNeil can do just as McNeil would not do what Ben mee does .. all I can say is I wish we still had both of them at the club today .. and i wish Mee a speedy recovery

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:30 pm
by bobinho
Yes, all the best to Ben for his recovery.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:37 pm
by IanMcL
I would hope Ben Mee would turn up, just so we xan give him a standing ovation. He epitomised Burnley and gave body and soul.

Ben Mee
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Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:45 pm
by bfcjg
Ben Mee was not only our best defender for years,he typified our club, hard work,dedication,talent and going the extra mile. Not only that a true ambassador and a thoroughly decent man, I think he is manager material and would love him back some day.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:50 pm
by IanMcL
He played on for some time, the other night and made one last vital tackle before having to sit down on the pitch.

True grit.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:52 pm
by nettiepicot92
Sozturf7 wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:43 pm
Rather silly.
He's not on his own though. There's a good 100-150 regular posters on here who don't know their football.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:55 pm
by Belgianclaret
Get well soon Ben

Burnley hero for me

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:10 pm
by Anonymous Claret
I used to think at times that Tarks and Keane were better defenders than Mee because they were a little more composed on the ball. I couldn't have been more wrong. IMHO Mee is without doubt the best defender I have seen play for us in about 45-50 years of following the Clarets. He had great positioning, was brave, strong in the tackle, good in the air, excellent reader of the game and a well respected leader.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:23 pm
by taio
Carlos the Great wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:03 pm
You would like to think he would get a good reception after 10 years at the Turf but you never know … I mens Dwight McNeil should have been applauded but for some inexplicable reason booed every time touched the ball ..
Thought McNeil got a good reception at Turf Moor, unlike at Goodison which was dreadful.

Real shame about Mee. Brilliant for us.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:19 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Carlos the Great wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:03 pm
Dwight McNeil should have been applauded but for some inexplicable reason booed every time touched the ball ..
I'm still at a loss trying to understand why he got booed.
Utterly bizarre.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:23 pm
by FeedTheArf
Is take him next season in a heartbeat. Even with a broken ankle.

This squad needs leaders.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:34 pm
by Goobs
Buxtonclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:19 pm
I'm still at a loss trying to understand why he got booed.
Utterly bizarre.
Just guessing it is because he jumped ship when we went down when many thought he was young enough to give us a season to help us back up.

That and nobody likes to see good players leave and some of those are bitter people who act like jilted lovers.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:52 pm
by Carwin261
Buxtonclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:19 pm
I'm still at a loss trying to understand why he got booed.
Utterly bizarre.
He’s human,it’s a job ,had loads of jobs in my life ,had a soft spot for Lucas where I served my time ,but expecting him to bleed claret and blue is a bit like believing in Father Christmas.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:56 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Goobs wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:34 pm
Just guessing it is because he jumped ship when we went down when many thought he was young enough to give us a season to help us back up.

That and nobody likes to see good players leave and some of those are bitter people who act like jilted lovers.
Understand that Goobs.
Might be wrong, but as far as I know, he didn't ask to leave.
We wanted the money!

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:05 pm
by Goobs
Buxtonclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:56 pm
Understand that Goobs.
Might be wrong, but as far as I know, he didn't ask to leave.
We wanted the money!
You are more than likely correct.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:15 pm
by Jakubclaret
Buxtonclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:56 pm
Understand that Goobs.
Might be wrong, but as far as I know, he didn't ask to leave.
We wanted the money!
A small matter of bumper pay rise must have surely entered the equation at some point. It benefitted both parties no doubt.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:53 am
by Targetman
Buxtonclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:19 pm
I'm still at a loss trying to understand why he got booed.
Utterly bizarre.
The people who were booing him in the area where we were stood at Everton were all p***ed as ar**h**es
Thought it was pathetic really!

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:54 am
by Poulton-le-Claret
Buxtonclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:19 pm
I'm still at a loss trying to understand why he got booed.
Utterly bizarre.
Yeah really weird that he is treated differently to other former clarets. Tarky ran his contract down and gets a nice polite applause, but Dwight who went for a decent fee gets booed, doesn't make sense to me (wouldn't boo Tarky either). I didn't and won't boo Dwight, would love to have him back at the club.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:54 am
by alwaysaclaret
Anonymous Claret wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:10 pm
I used to think at times that Tarks and Keane were better defenders than Mee because they were a little more composed on the ball. I couldn't have been more wrong. IMHO Mee is without doubt the best defender I have seen play for us in about 45-50 years of following the Clarets. He had great positioning, was brave, strong in the tackle, good in the air, excellent reader of the game and a well respected leader.
Ben mee was the one who made tarkowski look so good imo, Ben in many ways was the better of the 2 for me, but a great partnership, although tarkowski seems to have taken on the mantle himself at Everton. Unlikely we'll ever have such a partnership at the turf again. But Ben was all of the things you highlight here.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:41 am
by Shaggy
I disagree that Mee was better than Tarkowski. Tarks is doing very well at Neverton.

Mee just gave it his all and made the best from what he had. He definitely improved as he got older and wiser, in his early days he was a liability due to being too small and having zero pace. Gave a good few Own goals away too.

He’s the type of player though where age won’t be too much of a detriment as he’s never been in the least bit athletic so doesn’t rely on it. If anything the older he becomes the better he will be due to having that extra yard in his head.

He’d be absolutely perfect along side 2 athletic ball playing defenders in a back 3 that he can organise and control.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:42 am
by taio
Mee was excellent for us. But saying he was better than Tarkowski is stretching it somewhat.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:51 am
by Burnley1989
taio wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:42 am
Mee was excellent for us. But saying he was better than Tarkowski is stretching it somewhat.
It’s not just stretching it, it’s absolute nonsense 😂

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:51 am
by alwaysaclaret
taio wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:42 am
Mee was excellent for us. But saying he was better than Tarkowski is stretching it somewhat.
Both had their own qualities, and obviously complimented each other, Ben was more of an unsung hero, possibly it was tarkowski's imposing stature that caught people's eye, but Ben literally put he's body on the line countless times, I'm not going into a massive debate about this but it's just my opinion.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:54 am
by northeastclaret
I got the impression he would have resigned for us in the Championship if VK had wanted him.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:05 am
by NewClaret
northeastclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:54 am
I got the impression he would have resigned for us in the Championship if VK had wanted him.
Pretty sure that is not true. He said on an interview that he wanted to play in the prem, that the salaries being offered by the club were big deductions and the uncertainty surrounding the club at the time was another factor.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:45 am
by northeastclaret
NewClaret wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:05 am
Pretty sure that is not true. He said on an interview that he wanted to play in the prem, that the salaries being offered by the club were big deductions and the uncertainty surrounding the club at the time was another factor.
I think that’s what happened after VK made it clear he didn’t want him, rather than Ben explain the rejection, hence he had nothing lined up until the Burnley position was clear. Although VKs decision as you say was was probably also based on a wage higher than he would want to pay.

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:08 am
by dandeclaret
bobinho wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:16 pm
Quite simple really imho…. Ben Mee was an outstanding player for us - put his body on the line many times whilst wearing our shirt. He was a superb captain too, none more so than when he came out for the post match interview at city…. He had a fabulous ten years with and for us.
McNeil was undoubtedly a very good player, good skills and very exciting to watch during his emergence…. Sadly his body language was poor, and his effort levels on occasion were even poorer and over a lesser period of time.

For the record, I’m not one of those who boo Dwight even though I’m not a big fan… I disagree with it in fact, but I’m just offering an explanation as to why I think it happens.

Mee would undoubtedly get a great reception.
You know there’s that small town in Spain that produces loads of leading top flight football managers…. Don’t reckon the same applies to Burnley for body language experts…. Mears, Weghorst, McNeill, Benson, Brownhill…. All subjects of La Masis of body language .

Re: Ben Mee

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:48 am
by bobinho
You don’t need to be a body language “expert” to get an idea of someone’s mood or character, or even “where they are” at any particular moment. This isn’t mythical or a new age science.

You can see it every day in all walks of life - people use it every day in all walks of life.

Anger/frustration/sadness/happiness/belief/mistrust, all these things and more are readable and picked up on every day by non experts. It’s done without even thinking about it. Admittedly tho, some people are better at it than others….