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Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:49 pm
by dermotdermot
Has he gone AWOL? Haven’t seen him holding hands with his wife and sitting next to his teddy bear for weeks now.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:02 pm
by ISpeds00
dont think he's going anywhere soon
i've heard he's started integrating more and more of his family and friends into the club in various roles - some with no football or burnley knowledge
specifically marketing and commercial

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:05 pm
by South West Claret.
ISpeds00 wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:02 pm
dont think he's going anywhere soon
i've heard he's started integrating more and more of his family and friends into the club in various roles - some with no football or burnley knowledge
specifically marketing and commercial
Don’t want Burnley managed by hedge funds in the background so he can go as soon as he likes.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:06 pm
by NewClaret
South West Claret. wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:05 pm
Don’t want Burnley managed by hedge funds in the background so he can go as soon as he likes.
Do you know what a hedge fund is?

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:11 pm
by ISpeds00
South West Claret. wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:05 pm
Don’t want Burnley managed by hedge funds in the background so he can go as soon as he likes.
There's people in there i know that have left cos of it

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:12 pm
by Dark Cloud
He's busy trying to get an injunction blocking "Mission to Burnley 2"! Apparently he's heard off camera in it saying "FFS Kompany"!! But that might be just a rumour!

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:13 pm
by Superjohnnyfrancis
dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:49 pm
Has he gone AWOL? Haven’t seen him holding hands with his wife and sitting next to his teddy bear for weeks now.
:lol:

Hes off to Czech republic to buy a big top and some zebras and giraffes all the while reading avidly from his Barcelona 1992 almanac.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:15 pm
by South West Claret.
NewClaret wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:06 pm
Do you know what a hedge fund is?
Yes a hedge fund is a pool of money that is invested in stocks and other assets. Hedge funds are generally more aggressive, riskier, and more exclusive than mutual funds. Their managers have freer rein to invest in a wide variety of assets and to use bolder strategies in pursuit of higher profits, and are rewarded with much higher fees than mutual funds charge.

I repeat I don’t Burnley managed by them.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:15 pm
by Nori1958
dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:49 pm
Has he gone AWOL? Haven’t seen him holding hands with his wife and sitting next to his teddy bear for weeks now.
Article in today's program

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:20 pm
by Big Vinny K
South West Claret. wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:15 pm
Yes a hedge fund is a pool of money that is invested in stocks and other assets. Hedge funds are generally more aggressive, riskier, and more exclusive than mutual funds. Their managers have freer rein to invest in a wide variety of assets and to use bolder strategies in pursuit of higher profits, and are rewarded with much higher fees than mutual funds charge.

I repeat I don’t Burnley managed by them.
Aaah bless - you’ve cut and paste google.
Using your definition how could we possibly be “managed by hedge funds in the background”.
Infact what does that even mean ?

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:21 pm
by Burnley1989
Bit harsh to blame Pace, he's backed VK, who's made poor signings and decisions.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:26 pm
by FCBurnley
JJ Watt also gone very wuiet along with other American Hollywood investors

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:27 pm
by South West Claret.
Big Vinny K wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:20 pm
Aaah bless - you’ve cut and paste google.
Using your definition how could we possibly be “managed by hedge funds in the background”.
Infact what does that even mean ?
Thank you so much 😊

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:32 pm
by kentonclaret
FCBurnley wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:26 pm
JJ Watt also gone very wuiet along with other American Hollywood investors
Turned out more Follywood than Hollywood :lol:

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:36 pm
by ClaretTony
dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:49 pm
Has he gone AWOL? Haven’t seen him holding hands with his wife and sitting next to his teddy bear for weeks now.
Believe he's back in the USA

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:37 pm
by MDWat
Pace was definitely at the Arsenal game.

JJ Watt is as vocal in the media and on social media as ever.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:38 pm
by Boss Hogg
Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:21 pm
Bit harsh to blame Pace, he's backed VK, who's made poor signings and decisions.
Think it needs a bit more oversight and accountability than this.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:48 pm
by NewClaret
South West Claret. wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:15 pm
Yes a hedge fund is a pool of money that is invested in stocks and other assets. Hedge funds are generally more aggressive, riskier, and more exclusive than mutual funds. Their managers have freer rein to invest in a wide variety of assets and to use bolder strategies in pursuit of higher profits, and are rewarded with much higher fees than mutual funds charge.

I repeat I don’t Burnley managed by them.
Completely incorrect.

A hedge fund holds liquid assets. If you don’t know what they are, look them up. A football club is illiquid.

So the good news is that we’re not managed by them. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:49 pm
by Dark Cloud
Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:21 pm
Bit harsh to blame Pace, he's backed VK, who's made poor signings and decisions.
Let's be honest. Pace backed his man with plenty of cash (unlike Garlic) and his man blew it. Not Pace's fault (imo), but the guy who chucked the money away on poor buys (at this level!)

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:51 pm
by blatherwickstattoos
He’s very busy praying everyday that we somehow come out of this ok.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:02 pm
by Sproggy
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FCBurnley wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:26 pm
JJ Watt also gone very wuiet along with other American Hollywood investors

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:06 pm
by NewClaret
dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:49 pm
Has he gone AWOL? Haven’t seen him holding hands with his wife and sitting next to his teddy bear for weeks now.
What we really needed was another thread about pace.

To make any reference to him sitting next to his wife and ‘teddy bear’ (not actually sure what that’s referring to) is weird as feck.

Good news is, I’d rather have Pace than the Venkys any day and Rovers are going down too :lol: :lol:

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:46 pm
by BurnleyFC
He’s not going to let Vinny see the season out, is he?

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:55 pm
by Vim Fuego
NewClaret wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:06 pm
What we really needed was another thread about pace.

To make any reference to him sitting next to his wife and ‘teddy bear’ (not actually sure what that’s referring to) is weird as feck.

Good news is, I’d rather have Pace than the Venkys any day and Rovers are going down too :lol: :lol:
Painful point to make, but at least the Venky's dug into their own pockets

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:57 pm
by CoolClaret
Needs some new temple garments I think - the ones he has know have clearly lost their magic.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:17 pm
by NewClaret
Vim Fuego wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:55 pm
Painful point to make, but at least the Venky's dug into their own pockets
I wouldn’t swap venkys for pace for all the chickens in India. Have they ever been to a game?

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:23 pm
by Theivley Pike
NewClaret wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:17 pm
I wouldn’t swap venkys for pace for all the chickens in India. Have they ever been to a game?
Yes ,and they got snowballed.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:05 pm
by fanzone
Pace has backed the manager to the tune of 120 million, he is the last one to be having a dig at. He’s going what we all asked the last regime to do.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:22 pm
by Vim Fuego
fanzone wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:05 pm
Pace has backed the manager to the tune of 120 million, he is the last one to be having a dig at. He’s going what we all asked the last regime to do.
Probably not from his own pocket though

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:29 pm
by fanzone
Vim Fuego wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:22 pm
Probably not from his own pocket though
How many do it from their own pocket

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:30 pm
by Boss Hogg
fanzone wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:05 pm
Pace has backed the manager to the tune of 120 million, he is the last one to be having a dig at. He’s going what we all asked the last regime to do.
We asked the last regime to back Dyche specifically.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:49 pm
by South West Claret.
NewClaret wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:48 pm
Completely incorrect.

A hedge fund holds liquid assets. If you don’t know what they are, look them up. A football club is illiquid.

So the good news is that we’re not managed by them. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Pace can still go.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:54 pm
by South West Claret.
NewClaret wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:48 pm
Completely incorrect.

A hedge fund holds liquid assets. If you don’t know what they are, look them up. A football club is illiquid.

So the good news is that we’re not managed by them. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Never been embarrassed in my life.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:06 pm
by Vegas Claret
notes from today courtesy of Turfcast

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:41 pm
by Awayfromburnley
Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:06 pm
notes from today courtesy of Turfcast
There's something between the lines here.

Something cold and accepting of relegation.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:57 pm
by South West Claret.
Has he gone yet?

Night all enjoyed your company 🙂

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:43 pm
by NewClaret
Awayfromburnley wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:41 pm
There's something between the lines here.

Something cold and accepting of relegation.
He’s a clever bloke. He’ll have accepted relegation a long time ago, like the rest of us.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:46 pm
by NewClaret
Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:06 pm
notes from today courtesy of Turfcast
Hopefully that’ll put an end to the “where’s Pace” thread for a while.

Good notes, says everything you’d expect bar maybe his reflections on what’s gone wrong this year which I hope we hear more on at the end of the season.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:47 pm
by NewClaret
South West Claret. wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:54 pm
Never been embarrassed in my life.
Obviously not or you wouldn’t keep on saying we’re owned by a hedge fund.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:49 pm
by forzagranata
"Looking back on the history of Burnley Football Club, we’ve faced difficult times before and shown real resilience. Week in, week out we need to be showing that resilience again now, in unity.

Elsewhere, it’s been a busy week at the Club. We announced the news that TravisMathew are a new Leisure & Lifestyle Partner, a relationship we’ve been working on for some time.

It’s an exciting development and a chance to team up with a globally recognised brand as we expand our offering in this area."

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:50 pm
by CoolClaret
forzagranata wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:49 pm
"Looking back on the history of Burnley Football Club, we’ve faced difficult times before and shown real resilience. Week in, week out we need to be showing that resilience again now, in unity.

Elsewhere, it’s been a busy week at the Club. We announced the news that TravisMathew are a new Leisure & Lifestyle Partner, a relationship we’ve been working on for some time.

It’s an exciting development and a chance to team up with a globally recognised brand as we expand our offering in this area."
Says it all doesn't it.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:51 pm
by daveisaclaret
Hard not to think of David Brent's good news and bad news when reading that

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:53 pm
by Vegas Claret
CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:50 pm
Says it all doesn't it.
it all needs paying for

edit: and literally every single PL club does it.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:10 pm
by forzagranata
daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:51 pm
Hard not to think of David Brent's good news and bad news when reading that
You’re still thinking about the bad news aren't you?

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:16 pm
by mickleoverclaret
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Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:42 am
by Tackler49
The AP programme(Bournemouth) were just standard B****cks what else were people expecting him to say. He really has no idea about the history of Burnley FC or the town of Burnley, people tell him this and tell him that so he thinks knows what Burnley is all about. People use their very hard earned cash to follow the clarets H & A. He said he understands how fans felt at CP he doesn’t understand fans have been suffering all season fans are actually fighting amongst themselves at matches. Under his “watch” we have gone from a club everyone was talking about to a club that are likely to go down as one the worst teams to ever play in the Premier League. No football knowledge if he had surely he wouldn’t have let an inexperienced manager spend so much money on bunch of young inexperienced unknowns. VK should take most of the criticism but the chairman is also culpable

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:01 am
by Nonayforever
I actually like AP, not the way he bought Burnley, the way he manages Burnley.
If Burnley is successful, he is successful and vice versa.
At the moment we are going down the pan, he can see it just the same as VK and the fans.
He isn't daft, he will be taking educated advice on why it isn't working.
He won't wait and see, he will do something to change it.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:07 am
by Culmclaret
It is not the ‘results’ that are ‘hard to take’ it is the abject performances both individually and collectively, but at least we are enhancing our global brand in leisure and lifestyle.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:12 am
by ClaretPete001
Nonayforever wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:01 am
I actually like AP, not the way he bought Burnley, the way he manages Burnley.
If Burnley is successful, he is successful and vice versa.
At the moment we are going down the pan, he can see it just the same as VK and the fans.
He isn't daft, he will be taking educated advice on why it isn't working.
He won't wait and see, he will do something to change it.
That is true of all the Chairmen of the club. I don't think I've encountered one that can be thought of as successful if the club is not...!

Arguably, Alan Pace has less at stake than the other because he bought it using the club's money.

And I'm not sure how much educated advice you can take when you gamble on a group of unknown players in the hope they succeed in the best league in the world.

I suspect if he was prone to taking advice he would have been a bit more cautious.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:23 am
by Nori1958
Tackler49 wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:42 am
The AP programme(Bournemouth) were just standard B****cks what else were people expecting him to say. He really has no idea about the history of Burnley FC or the town of Burnley, people tell him this and tell him that so he thinks knows what Burnley is all about. People use their very hard earned cash to follow the clarets H & A. He said he understands how fans felt at CP he doesn’t understand fans have been suffering all season fans are actually fighting amongst themselves at matches. Under his “watch” we have gone from a club everyone was talking about to a club that are likely to go down as one the worst teams to ever play in the Premier League. No football knowledge if he had surely he wouldn’t have let an inexperienced manager spend so much money on bunch of young inexperienced unknowns. VK should take most of the criticism but the chairman is also culpable
Fighting amongst themselves? One isolated incident yesterday?