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England squad
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:58 pm
by fidelcastro
I'm one of the few who still defends Southgate, but Anthony Gordon?!!
"England squad: Anthony Gordon and Jarrad Branthwaite receive first call-ups - BBC Sport"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68564319
Re: England squad
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:03 pm
by Vegas Claret
Friendlies, no issue having a look at different players. It's when he starts Jordan Henderson against a 'Malta' type team instead of Phil Foden that my toys get hurled out of the pram !
Re: England squad
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:03 pm
by dougcollins
If they need a fall guy, Gordon's your man.
Literally.
Re: England squad
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:18 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
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Playing regularly and having a decent season = worth a look by the England manager
Re: England squad
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:44 pm
by LincsWoldsClaret
Decent enough player but his incessant diving and play acting lets him down. Grealish was the same but became acceptable as he matured.
Re: England squad
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:50 pm
by IanMcL
Tarkowski teaches Braithwaite and the wet behind the ears guy gets the job! Southgate is obsessed with young players who are yet to have all the ingredients.
Re: England squad
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:33 am
by Sproggy
I like the fact that Kalvin Phillips has more chance of being selected when he’s not playing.
Re: England squad
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:34 am
by Newcastleclaret93
IanMcL wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:50 pm
Tarkowski teaches Braithwaite and the wet behind the ears guy gets the job! Southgate is obsessed with young players who are yet to have all the ingredients.
Branthwaite has arguably been one of the CBs of the season
Not sure how anyone can criticise that decision
Re: England squad
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:36 am
by wilks_bfc
Southgate previously selects experienced players not playing or out of form, for qualifying & tournament games, and gets criticised
Southgate now selects uncapped players, for playing regularly and having good a season, for a couple of meaningless friendlies, and gets criticised
He really can’t win can he
Re: England squad
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:37 am
by bobinho
I’m not overly worried about the AG selection, it’s his reliance on the likes of Maguire, Henderson and a woefully out of form and ineffective Rashford that should worry everyone who still has any interest left in the national team. Well, that and the fact he’ll do his best to stifle any creativity these lads are capable of.
Re: England squad
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:40 am
by bobinho
wilks_bfc wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:36 am
Southgate previously selects experienced players not playing or out of form, for qualifying & tournament games, and gets criticised
Southgate now selects uncapped players, for playing regularly and having good a season, for a couple of meaningless friendlies, and gets criticised
He really can’t win can he
It’s the nature of the beast that we won’t all agree on his selections, but your first paragraph tells you everything you need to know about GS and his old boys club.
Re: England squad
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:53 am
by jlup1980
It's a particularly poor set of defenders.
Branthwaite is worth a look - he just looks like another steady eddie for me though. The next in the long line of English CB that Dyche has developed, but who will ultimately be found wanting when exposed to a more open formation.
Gomez looks good when he plays CB with VVD and awful when he doesn't.
Konsa and Dunk are nothing more than a stop gaps.
Maguire tends to do well for England but everyone knows he's limited.
Stones is better as a CDM than a CB as he's prone to making errors when he's the last man.
It feels a long time since we were choosing from the likes of Campbell, Ferdinand and Terry.
Re: England squad
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:02 am
by benstone12
This really stands out for me.
We have probably our most potent and dangerous midfield and attack we have had in a long time, maybe ever.
Then you look at the defence and gk. It’s polar opposites and the reason we won’t be winning any tournaments.
The way Southgate plays, we will be a really boring frustrating team that does not impose and concedes really sloppy/easy goals.
Re: England squad
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:08 am
by beddie
I still haven’t forgiven him (GS) for his naïvety shown in the second half of the Italy match.
Re: England squad
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:14 am
by StayingDown4Ever
IanMcL wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:50 pm
Southgate is obsessed with young players who are yet to have all the ingredients.
Remind you of anyone?
Re: England squad
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:22 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Interesting that he kept picking Phillips while sat on City's bench with the stupid argument he had never let England down so he gets picked made by Southgate, then when he is playing for a club he gets dropped and told his club form isn't currently good enough.
Re: England squad
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:34 am
by Jakubs Tash
Where is Alfie Doughty???
The Luton fans have been screaming for him to be in the England squad….
Re: England squad
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:21 pm
by IanMcL
Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:34 am
Where is Alfie Doughty???
The Luton fans have been screaming for him to be in the England squad….
Fell away the other night!
Re: England squad
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:22 pm
by Silkyskills1
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:34 am
Branthwaite has arguably been one of the CBs of the season
Not sure how anyone can criticise that decision
Has he? I genuinely don't know because I don't watch football on tv most of the time. Do Everton have a watertight defence that justifies his selection? Or is Southgate keeping those loveable Everonians sweet so he can sit safely in the seat Kenwright used to use?
Re: England squad
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:34 am
by alwaysaclaret
IanMcL wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:50 pm
Tarkowski teaches Braithwaite and the wet behind the ears guy gets the job! Southgate is obsessed with young players who are yet to have all the ingredients.
Kompany in disguise
Re: England squad
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:53 am
by Dyched
jlup1980 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:53 am
It's a particularly poor set of defenders.
Branthwaite is worth a look - he just looks like another steady eddie for me though. The next in the long line of English CB that Dyche has developed, but who will ultimately be found wanting when exposed to a more open formation.
Gomez looks good when he plays CB with VVD and awful when he doesn't.
Konsa and Dunk are nothing more than a stop gaps.
Maguire tends to do well for England but everyone knows he's limited.
Stones is better as a CDM than a CB as he's prone to making errors when he's the last man.
It feels a long time since we were choosing from the likes of Campbell, Ferdinand and Terry.
So basically GS has pocked the best English CHs?
Re: England squad
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:05 am
by boatshed bill
IanMcL wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:50 pm
Tarkowski teaches Braithwaite and the wet behind the ears guy gets the job! Southgate is obsessed with young players who are yet to have all the ingredients.
That squad doesn't strike me as being particularly young, more of a blend really.
Re: England squad
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:13 am
by Roosterbooster
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:34 am
Branthwaite has arguably been one of the CBs of the season
Not sure how anyone can criticise that decision
Agree
The Everton fans I know have already resigned themselves to the fact he's going to a top 6 club for £30m plus in the summer
They think he's going all the way to the top
Re: England squad
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:25 pm
by Commy
No arguement with Gordon as he has been playing well this season. Some games I have watched he has been unplayable at times.
Re: England squad
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:58 pm
by jlup1980
Dyched wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:53 am
So basically GS has pocked the best English CHs?
If they're the best we have on offer it's a poor do, that's all I'll say.
