Lineker and the rest on FA Cup duty so we get some b listers to discuss the match.

You don’t really watch that do ya??

I’d say z listers tbh. One of them just described Fofana’s goal as a scuffed finish.

Joe14 wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:03 pm

You don’t really watch that do ya??

I do if we win.

That 'analysis' for our game was beyond amateurish. Awful that from the Beeb.

First time I’ve watched it all season…. and last!!

Hibsclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:10 pm

I’d say z listers tbh. One of them just described Fofana’s goal as a scuffed finish.

I'm glad you understood what she was saying, she was talking faster than I could listen.

Brugge Claret wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:14 pm

I do if we win.

So that’s a no then!!

Blisters

I only watch it when we win, I must agree with the above, the analysis of the game was amateurish and pro Brentford.

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:17 pm

I'm glad you understood what she was saying, she was talking faster than I could listen.

I would have understood it better if she was talking in Swahili tbh. How can anyone with any knowledge of the game, man or woman, describe that goal as a scuffed finish. Incredible really. Such a great goal from start to finish.

Should Brentford have had a penalty as their manager insisted and former Brighton centre forward Murray said it was a clear penalty to him

DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:25 pm

Should Brentford have had a penalty as their manager insisted and former Brighton centre forward Murray said it was a clear penalty to him

We would have been asking for it if it was the other way around certainly stupid from Fofana but there player also had hold of him maybe that is why it wasn’t given.

I generally like the BBC and MOTD but that was terrible tonight.

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:15 pm

That 'analysis' for our game was beyond amateurish. Awful that from the Beeb.

I’m not sure what the rule is for pundits these days, but eloquence does not seem to be among them. It has been poor often enough, but that was another level. Saturday Night’s BIG event show…

DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:25 pm

Should Brentford have had a penalty as their manager insisted and former Brighton centre forward Murray said it was a clear penalty to him

They scored a couple of minutes later, in what you would call the VAR looking at incident period.
So if that was given, I don't think they get chance to score the goal as well.

DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:25 pm

Should Brentford have had a penalty as their manager insisted and former Brighton centre forward Murray said it was a clear penalty to him

Murray, well known for his cheating, makes his opinion of no consequence. It’s an embarrassment that he is paid for his views.
It was obviously 50/50 in any case

Aldi version of coverage, amateurish and dreadful. Not MOTD really, just a pointless sludge.

DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:25 pm

Should Brentford have had a penalty as their manager insisted and former Brighton centre forward Murray said it was a clear penalty to him

The reason I wouldn't give it (apart from obvious bias) is that their man had hold of Fofana until the moment the kick was taken, and he had hold of Fofana as he went to ground, and for all I know may have had hold of him in between as well. In other words, there were faults on both sides.

I wouldn't want to see Fofana do it again, though.

I like MOTD but that was v poor.

As for their potential penalty, it looked as much like their player was pulling Fofana over as the other way around so I really don’t think that’s anywhere near as clear as they, or Frank, made out, although they do get given. A couple of games in a row now where we’ve got the rub of the green with decisions which doesn’t seem to have happened all season.

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:17 pm

I'm glad you understood what she was saying, she was talking faster than I could listen.

My wife was saying “bler bler bler, bler bler bler” while she was talking. Even she found her annoying and ****e.

Absolute embarrassment from bbc.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:30 am

I like MOTD but that was v poor.

As for their potential penalty, it looked as much like their player was pulling Fofana over as the other way around so I really don’t think that’s anywhere near as clear as they, or Frank, made out, although they do get given. A couple of games in a row now where we’ve got the rub of the green with decisions which doesn’t seem to have happened all season.

Spot on. You need those bits of luck and they’ve only just started coming our way, sadly.

helmclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:33 pm

I generally like the BBC and MOTD but that was terrible tonight.

Makes you wonder is that the best the beeb can get ? Surely there are much better candidates for the job .: Awful

Ready to tune into the repeat at about 8 am this morning.

The other thing she said was the best thing that Muric did all game was the foul on Toney which would likely have been a penalty if they had not scored in the continued attack. They make someone like Tim Sherwood or Chris Sutton sound half knowledgeable.

I found the female pundit came across as a very dull and boring individual. I’ve heard her before and found her the same then. Does she ever smile? My view regarding the non penalty, yes I think it was, players often hold each other in the box but Forfana was lucky to get away with that.

It was refreshing to hear Frank state he agreed about our penalty and the red card.

I haven't ever valued Farah's opinion but what was she on about with Fofana's finish for the goal? Looked a very good finish to me.

I don't know who Farah is, but I don't know what she meant by a ‘scuffed finish’, I presumed it was related to something else she's said previously or I wasn't in on the joke.

Not ‘white’ enough for you?

How about not good enough?

I heard of B and C teams, but what was this ??

LincsWoldsClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:05 am

Murray, well known for his cheating, makes his opinion of no consequence. It’s an embarrassment that he is paid for his views.
It was obviously 50/50 in any case

I remember him getting Tarks sent off, then bragging about it. An absolute cheat.

Got to be a deliberate ploy by the Beeb, can we start a campaign to keep Lineker

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:21 am

I don't know who Farah is, but I don't know what she meant by a ‘scuffed finish’, I presumed it was related to something else she's said previously or I wasn't in on the joke.

I think that comment has given Barton a bit more ammunition for his Twitter page this week. Absolutely ridiculous.

I've only seen it the once, live as it were, but I'm pretty sure that one
of them referred to Muric as playing well on his debut or similar !!!!!!!

Thank goodness I only watch it when we win. Shocking last night,
absolutely shocking.

JarrowClaret wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:32 pm

We would have been asking for it if it was the other way around certainly stupid from Fofana but there player also had hold of him maybe that is why it wasn’t given.

Yes it eas a joint scuffle, but looked bad. Could have gone the other way.

I really don't like women commenting on the men's game and vice versa.

Last night demonstrated that the 2 on show were clueless and had no background knowledge to offer. Just wrong assumptions.

Appalling. Could have spoilt a great win!

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:33 am

I've only seen it the once, live as it were, but I'm pretty sure that one
of them referred to Muric as playing well on his debut or similar !!!!!!!

Thank goodness I only watch it when we win. Shocking last night,
absolutely shocking.

Williams aagain. Definitely mentioned a debut. I gave her the benefit of the doubt, in that it may have been his Premier League debut.

She is still awful to listen to and I don't think she makes much sense when you can understand what she's saying.

There is a place for all genders, backgrounds, etc but how would she ever be selected for a communication job? Defies logic.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:58 pm

They scored a couple of minutes later, in what you would call the VAR looking at incident period.
So if that was given, I don't think they get chance to score the goal as well.

My take entirely. Why was Frank moaning about it not being given when they scored from free play less than two minutes later? If it had been given the whole pattern of play would have changed, and that’s assuming they would have scored it if they’d got it. Really don’t know what he was moaning about.

BBC have now got some shocking pundits who know sweet FA about the various clubs and are stealing a wage. Ashley Williams is another one who like Glen Murray has no right to be there

Incidentally did anyone read Jose Morinho quote about Jamie Carriger this week saying he would never have made the top 1000 defenders and never won a title, and had no right to be talking about managers and what it takes to win the PL

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:39 am

I really don't like women commenting on the men's game and vice versa.

Last night demonstrated that the 2 on show were clueless and had no background knowledge to offer. Just wrong assumptions.

Appalling. Could have spoilt a great win!

Really don’t understand your first Joey Bartonesque sentence.
Your second point was spot on - ie you can be ill informed, inarticulate or plain dumb whatever gender you are.

Where we are possibly in agreement is that people are being giving roles presenting football and sport in general because of their gender or background rather than their ability to do the job and that is not only wrong but it’s also diluting the quality massively.

But the people making these decisions clearly have other priorities and targets to meet and if that means in the long term more women etc wanting to be involved in careers in sport (or other walks of life that historically they may not have been) then that’s a positive thing (for future generations rather than ours maybe !)

She also said Fofana scuffed his shot when he scored?

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:39 am

I really don't like women commenting on the men's game and vice versa.

Last night demonstrated that the 2 on show were clueless and had no background knowledge to offer. Just wrong assumptions.

Appalling. Could have spoilt a great win!

I agree it's probably an unpopular opinion but I'd completely separate the 2. Let men be involved in the men's games only covering everything & the women doing what they need to do. There's no need to mix the 2.

I have no problem with match of the day, except for when we lose which has been most of this season. I think the Brentford penalty claim was not given because both players were holding onto each other, but some referees may have given it.

not watched motd properly for years, it's gone downhill so rapidly it's almost criminal

Any team below the big six just gets there occasional comments:

they are well organised
they all know their jobs

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:54 am

BBC have now got some shocking pundits who know sweet FA about the various clubs and are stealing a wage. Ashley Williams is another one who like Glen Murray has no right to be there

Incidentally did anyone read Jose Morinho quote about Jamie Carriger this week saying he would never have made the top 1000 defenders and never won a title, and had no right to be talking about managers and what it takes to win the PL

Pretty stupid logic given carragher won a champions league medal and came very close to winning the league. That in itself at least gives him an insight of how a club might just fall short. And moreover the fact that Mourinho did absolutely zero as a player, should he have no opinion on what it takes to be a top player then?

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:09 am

It was refreshing to hear Frank state he agreed about our penalty and the red card.

Yes, i thought he was totally honest on that.
So many managers would have tried to find
fault about that incident.

An excellent goal from our Chelsea lonee I thought.

houseboy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:53 am

My take entirely. Why was Frank moaning about it not being given when they scored from free play less than two minutes later? If it had been given the whole pattern of play would have changed, and that’s assuming they would have scored it if they’d got it. Really don’t know what he was moaning about.

The penalty claim against Fofana before we went 2-0 up. There was a review against Muric on Toney probably just prior to their goal but Frank doesn’t refer to that one I don’t think.