Club or country

ArmchairDetective · Post by **ArmchairDetective** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:11 am

The age old question of club or country is doing the rounds on twitter. Thought I'd see where people are at on here.

1) Would you rather Burnley stay up this season or England (or your alternative country) win the Euros this summer? Choose one.

2) Would you rather Burnley win the FA Cup next season or England (or your alternative country) win the next World Cup? Choose one.

These are separate hypothetical scenarios where your answer to question 1 shouldn't impact your answer to question 2 and vice versa i.e. it's not an acca

burnmark · Post by **burnmark** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:14 am

I’m always club before country however I’d be tempted to go for England to win the Euros this summer and we be relegated(I’ve not enjoyed the PL this season and don’t want a repeat next year). My answer to two though would definitely be an FA Cup win.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:14 am

I would rather win at Chelsea than England win the Euro's or World Cup

I say that as someone who has been to World Cups & Euro's and qualifiers all over in the past.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:15 am

1) BURNLEY
2) BURNLEY

Every day of the week.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:22 am

Burnley always.

International football isn't the same as in the 60s, 70s.
The format of competitions.
The number of International breaks and friendlies.
Their impact on the league programme, and the potential to dilute the league even further.
The money grabbing attitude of FIFA and UEFA.
Southgate and his blinkered approach to team selection and tactics.

I think I'd rather do the gardening

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:24 am

Burnley
Burnley

And it’s not even close. In fact I’d not bat an eyelid if they announced they were scrapping international football if it meant an end to these awful international breaks.

pureclaret · Post by **pureclaret** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:27 am

I look at family first and go out from there, so its family , Burnley then country for both (oh is Claret family the same as actual family or are they 2nd)

Clovius Boofus · Post by **Clovius Boofus** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:47 am

I can't wait to drive around and litter the roads with my cheap little plastic Made in China car flags.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:51 am

Its got to be England every time for me. Maybe if it was a choice between Burnley going out of the football League like we nearly did in 1990 or England not qualifying for the Euros or World Cup then in that scenario maybe Burnley would just edge it.

Poulton-le-Claret · Post by **Poulton-le-Claret** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:52 am

Burnley always. I have almost no interest in watching England under Southgate.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:52 am

Burnley all the way.

As much as I'd like England to win, its not my team

ArmchairDetective · Post by **ArmchairDetective** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:52 am

Clovius Boofus wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:47 am
I can't wait to drive around and litter the roads with my cheap little plastic Made in China car flags.

What about littering the streets with Burnley flags made in Blackburn, or with pie wrappers made in Preston?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:10 am

Burnley.

Clovius Boofus · Post by **Clovius Boofus** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:16 am

ArmchairDetective wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:52 am
What about littering the streets with Burnley flags made in Blackburn, or with pie wrappers made in Preston?

The best thing about those cheap little Made in China flags is that I can post photos of my car decked out in them for my three thousand+ friends to see on Facebook. I know they litter our streets, roads, and especially the motorways, but just think of the joys they bring.

Peter Loo · Post by **Peter Loo** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:29 am

I agree Club first for me.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:32 am

Always Club 1st ... Come on you Clarets

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:33 am

Burnley all the way.England with its media picked team and Muppet Southgate in charge hold no interest for me whatsoever.

Rumpelstiltskin · Post by **Rumpelstiltskin** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:33 am

100 per cent Burnley

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:34 am

England used to matter but not so much anymore. I'll watch the womens team though.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:37 am

England win the Euros and we go down.

Burnley win the FA Cup.

Get some silverware in that cabinet Vinny.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:40 am

As an Earthling, no borders guy, it’s the Clarets every day for me.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:41 am

I'd rather Burnley win a game of cuppies than England win the World Cup.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:23 am

No interest at all in International football

Anonymous Claret · Post by **Anonymous Claret** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:26 am

Always Burnley.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:31 am

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:51 am
Its got to be England every time for me. Maybe if it was a choice between Burnley going out of the football League like we nearly did in 1990 or England not qualifying for the Euros or World Cup then in that scenario maybe Burnley would just edge it.

Poor attempt as usual 1/10

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:38 am

ArmchairDetective wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:11 am
The age old question of club or country is doing the rounds on twitter. Thought I'd see where people are at on here.

1) Would you rather Burnley stay up this season or England (or your alternative country) win the Euros this summer? Choose one.

2) Would you rather Burnley win the FA Cup next season or England (or your alternative country) win the next World Cup? Choose one.

These are separate hypothetical scenarios where your answer to question 1 shouldn't impact your answer to question 2 and vice versa i.e. it's not an acca

1. England.
2. Burnley.

Football is about winning things. Staying up never a priority ahead of a trophy for either.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:20 pm

Clovius Boofus wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:16 am
The best thing about those cheap little Made in China flags is that I can post photos of my car decked out in them for my three thousand+ friends to see on Facebook. I know they litter our streets, roads, and especially the motorways, but just think of the joys they bring.

The best thing about those flags is that if you park your grey car in a car park with a thousand other cars, 900 of them also grey, then you can put a little flag up to help you find it later.

I don't particularly object to relegation this time, but definitely Burnley to win the FA Cup ahead of England winning anything.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:52 pm

I think i would vote for anything as long as England failed to win anything .

BigAlClaret · Post by **BigAlClaret** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:25 pm

Always Burnley for me but isn't the question going to be biased towards Burnley simply by asking it on a club forum?

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:27 pm

Burnley

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:00 pm

Burnley on both counts.

I've always said that I'm a Burnley fan but just watch England. Now, I'm not sure I even want to watch England.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:10 pm

Whilst would like Scotland to slaughter them all, Burnley success is vital.

ClaretsPadiham · Post by **ClaretsPadiham** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:18 pm

England all day everyday.

Suratclaret · Post by **Suratclaret** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:29 pm

Club every time.
There’s so many international fixtures these days that they almost become meaningless ( and, I guess, some are). I don’t believe that playing for your country means the same as it did in the past when there were fewer matches.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:18 pm

Would happily take relegation for England to win the Euros. Not bothered about staying in the Prem at all.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:32 pm

Genuinely prefer to watch Burnley players playing in an international for another Country than watching an England game.

Burnley every single time.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:04 pm

17th in the Premier League whoopy do!

England win the Euros, we get relegated, then romp to another Championship next season.

Burnley win the FA Cup for the second question. I’d actually take a League/FA Cup win and relegation tbh

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:17 pm

As for the here and now, relegation and England to win the Euros.

Any time else, the club every time - no contest.

Who pays their wages and has invested a lot of time and money in the players anyway ?

Just money spinners now - not unlike the Premier League I suppose.

steve1264b · Post by **steve1264b** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:32 pm

England for the Euros.

Id kill Mrs B for a FA Cup win!

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:22 pm

not just because england are useless ultimatley in the fag end of tournaments but more for the fact the red top style media sun and talk sport try to whip up a false frenzy amongst supporters with no merit.
a long line of teams and managers just cannot buy a tournament win.
its fine for the fans of lower league dregs who seem to cling to the national team, but nothing comes near the passion for Burnley. international breaks are tiresome irritations just getting in the way of proper football.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:38 am

Used to watch England all over, I’d probably been to over 30 England games by the time I was in my early 20’s including some big tournament games.

Great years but lost interest and barely watch games on tv now, the bug does occasionally come back during tournaments and I’m considering taking my daughter to see if I can get back in to the habit.

Currently Burnley first but some of the best trips of my life have been watching England in the sun and mixing with random club fans for a chat and a beer.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:16 am

1. Burnley stay up

2. Burnley win FA Cup

It ain’t even close…. So many disappointing tournaments (false dawns) with England, culminating with the current ‘destroyer of all things positive’ ensuring we continue to lose the big games from winning positions. If this frightened buffoon was in charge of Brazil in the ‘70 World Cup, they’d have gone out in the group stage….

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:41 am

bobinho wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:16 am
1. Burnley stay up

2. Burnley win FA Cup

It ain’t even close…. So many disappointing tournaments (false dawns) with England, culminating with the current ‘destroyer of all things positive’ ensuring we continue to lose the big games from winning positions. If this frightened buffoon was in charge of Brazil in the ‘70 World Cup, they’d have gone out in the group stage….

Not to worry, they are talking of him going to Man U.
Their fans must be delighted

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:43 am

It’s not a debate for me. I want both.

Yearofthefox · Post by **Yearofthefox** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:02 am

BURNLEY always...not keen on international football in all honestly.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:31 am

England but it's incongruous seeing players I dislike for several reasons playing for England like Grealish and now Gordon.

claretgimmer · Post by **claretgimmer** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:38 am

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:22 am
Burnley always.

International football isn't the same as in the 60s, 70s.
The format of competitions.
The number of International breaks and friendlies.
Their impact on the league programme, and the potential to dilute the league even further.
The money grabbing attitude of FIFA and UEFA.
Southgate and his blinkered approach to team selection and tactics.

I think I'd rather do the gardening

Totally agree on every point UTC

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:56 am

Burnley

ClaretCliff · Post by **ClaretCliff** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:08 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:31 am
Poor attempt as usual 1/10

I think you’re being a bit generous giving him 1.

Turftalkers mentor · Post by **Turftalkers mentor** » Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:28 pm

Silly question , only one answer and it isn’t England .
They are just a team that plays down south with a subservient manager who tows the F. A. line