• Next seasons kit manufacturer

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:05 am**

Had it confirmed that Castore are Burnley's kit manufacturer for next season so be warned of quality issues and late deliveries

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:14 am**

Thought we had deal with Umbro until 2026?

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:17 am**

Any truth in the rumour the home shirt will feature both claret and blue.

Is it Castore who do or did that Aston Villa wet look home shirt ?

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:20 am**

1989_claret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:05 am
Had it confirmed that Castore are Burnley's kit manufacturer for next season so be warned of quality issues and late deliveries

Been having those same issues for years now, so it’s become expected rather than unusual.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:29 am**

will the shirts be on sale before the season tickets

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:31 am**

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:17 am
Any truth in the rumour the home shirt will feature both claret and blue.

Is it Castore who do or did that Aston Villa wet look home shirt ?

Yes it is Castore who did the wet look shirt and rather than own up that it was a production error they tried to market it as a new 'technical element' until they were called out for it.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:31 am**

bigdavethemaddog wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:29 am
will the shirts be on sale before the season tickets

Probably not knowing their track record.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:38 am**

There’s an article online saying we’d signed a deal with Umbro until 2026?! Good and bad news if true.

Bad:

- From what I’ve seen Castore kits are quite plain and boring
- Quality issues reported although you’d expect they might’ve resolved them next year.

Good:

- I think they do some miles better/smart merchandise I might actually wear
- Umbro have been hit & miss - they deserve sacking for this years efforts though
- We won’t have templated GK kits and training wear that are exactly the same as loads of other local clubs

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:50 am**

Very expensive in comparison to Umbro and other manufacturers we have had previously. Expect a hike in replica shirt prices if they do become kit supplier.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:51 am**

1989_claret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:05 am
Had it confirmed that Castore are Burnley's kit manufacturer for next season so be warned of quality issues and late deliveries

I posted this on a thread last week but someone replied suggesting we'd signed a new deal with Umbro.

EDIT: Found the thread
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=74813&p=2295097&hil ... e#p2295097

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:52 am**

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2024/03/ ... fully.html

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:55 am**

Here’s the link that said we’d signed up with Umbro until 2026:

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/f ... ore-target

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:59 am**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:55 am
Here’s the link that said we’d signed up with Umbro until 2026:

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/f ... ore-target

It was your post that made me think twice. I was told ages ago that it would be Castore and I'm sure I posted it on here at the time. But that article definitely suggests it's Umbro for another two seasons. I do think it is going to be Castore.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:03 am**

I suppose the deal was done under the old regeme and ALK have negotiated a termination.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:05 am**

The Newcastle kit by Castore looks like a really awful cheap see-through effort.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:06 am**

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:03 am
I suppose the deal was done under the old regeme and ALK have negotiated a termination.

According to the article linked, the Umbro deal was in 2021 after the ALK takeover.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:10 am**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:51 am
I posted this on a thread last week but someone replied suggesting we'd signed a new deal with Umbro.

EDIT: Found the thread
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=74813&p=2295097&hil ... e#p2295097

Sorry CT, hadn't seen that but was told yesterday it is Castore. I haven't seen the design yet though

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:14 am**

1989_claret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:10 am
Sorry CT, hadn't seen that but was told yesterday it is Castore. I haven't seen the design yet though

I have no reason to doubt you at all, I was told some time ago that it was going to be Castore. No idea on colours or design though other than potentially one worrying potential for the third kit.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:17 am**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:06 am
According to the article linked, the Umbro deal was in 2021 after the ALK takeover.

Hmmmm, strange one then.

Kit deals are always a strange one, I'm never sure how they are structured because it seems to be different everytime.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:17 am**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:59 am
It was your post that made me think twice. I was told ages ago that it would be Castore and I'm sure I posted it on here at the time. But that article definitely suggests it's Umbro for another two seasons. I do think it is going to be Castore.

That could quite possibly be wrong and I’m sure all contract extensions have exit clauses.

There seems to be enough people in the know saying it’s Castore now and I’m sure there was some link to Castore via an ex Exec so that would make sense?

Although Castore seem to have a bad reputation I’m all up for a change. I’m not a massive fan of Umbro.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:27 am**

Castore have a deal with Umbro that means some of their stuff will be manufactured by them but bear the Umbro branding.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:27 am**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:14 am
I have no reason to doubt you at all, I was told some time ago that it was going to be Castore. No idea on colours or design though other than potentially one worrying potential for the third kit.

its the rainbow wet look metallic quarter shirt isn't it CT?

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:35 am**

Can’t say I understand all this but here’s details of the deal PremierLeagueClass is referring to:

https://castore.com/blogs/press/castore ... ts-licence

So basically more likely the shirts will say Umbro on them but Castore will be the partner?

Would explain the link.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:35 am**

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:27 am
its the rainbow wet look metallic quarter shirt isn't it CT?

Aye and the worry is it's blue & white quarters

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:39 am**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:35 am
Can’t say I understand all this but here’s details of the deal PremierLeagueClass is referring to:

https://castore.com/blogs/press/castore ... ts-licence

So basically more likely the shirts will say Umbro on them but Castore will be the partner?

Would explain the link.

That lists all the premier league teams Umbro has, except us

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:47 am**

Umbro could/can be good (think that 79/80 shirt)

The training gear and GK shirt selections being stock for multiple clubs is a bit lame though isn't it? You'd think for a PL outfit all that stuff would be unique.

Shirts are obviously a main seller every year but I still think the club could do more with better non playing gear merch offerings for those of us that don't like to wear football shirts.

JJ Watt seems to have more of an idea in that department - see what plays out.

As for Castore? meh, hopefully they've improved on their material for the players shirts.

I'd love it if Kappa was still doing footy shirts - saw this concept (mind the old, horrific sponsor mind)

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Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:50 am**

Maybe Umbro have cancelled the deal after losing money this season, with lack of sales?

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:52 am**

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:47 am
Umbro could/can be good (think that 79/80 shirt)

The training gear and GK shirt selections being stock for multiple clubs is a bit lame though isn't it? You'd think for a PL outfit all that stuff would be unique.

Shirts are obviously a main seller every year but I still think the club could do more with better non playing gear merch offerings for those of us that don't like to wear football shirts.

JJ Watt seems to have more of an idea in that department - see what plays out.

As for Castore? meh, hopefully they've improved on their material for the players shirts.

I'd love it if Kappa was still doing footy shirts - saw this concept (mind the old, horrific sponsor mind)

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South Shields wear the same colours as we do and have had some great looking kits over the years.
Umbro provide their kits and even though it’s similar to ours looks much better

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Even when they had Puma at the same time as us, theirs were much better than ours

As for Kappa, much prefer Hummel to do them

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:56 am**

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:52 am
South Shields wear the same colours as we do and have had some great looking kits over the years.
Umbro provide their kits and even though it’s similar to ours looks much better

IMG_5298.jpeg

Even when they had Puma at the same time as us, theirs were much better than ours

As for Kappa, much prefer Hummel to do them

Nice - yeah, seems a bit strange that a non-league team have my thought into some of their designs than we've had... though can't complain on last seasons (even if it wasn't to my particular taste).

Hummel be cool as well - would be refreshing to have a new (yet classic) kit manufacturer that we haven't had before!

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:57 am**

sure my physique will look perfect in a wet look slim fit castore. exciting times

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:01 am**

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:50 am
Maybe Umbro have cancelled the deal after losing money this season, with lack of sales?

They deserve to be compensating us for this years efforts. Dreadful. Not just us but Luton as well.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:06 am**

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:47 am
Umbro could/can be good (think that 79/80 shirt)

The training gear and GK shirt selections being stock for multiple clubs is a bit lame though isn't it? You'd think for a PL outfit all that stuff would be unique.

Shirts are obviously a main seller every year but I still think the club could do more with better non playing gear merch offerings for those of us that don't like to wear football shirts.

JJ Watt seems to have more of an idea in that department - see what plays out.

As for Castore? meh, hopefully they've improved on their material for the players shirts.

I'd love it if Kappa was still doing footy shirts - saw this concept (mind the old, horrific sponsor mind)

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Agree the training & GK gear being stock for multiple clubs is really small time. PL clubs should have their own designs.

Also agree the whole merchandise and leisure wear offering needs a massive upgrade and a flight to quality. I’m not saying we shouldn’t also cater to all budgets but when you see football fans walking around in some of the labels they wear there’s a clear market for decent gear we just do t cater for at the moment.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:10 am**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:14 am
I have no reason to doubt you at all, I was told some time ago that it was going to be Castore. No idea on colours or design though other than potentially one worrying potential for the third kit.

You not a fan of a blue and white half / half 3rd kit ?

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:11 am**

Umbro don't manufacture their own stuff. The Umbro brand is owned by Iconix who own a variety of fashion brands (disappointed we didn't go with their other brand Pony rather than Umbro) and just does licensing and marketing for them.

The UK licence for Umbro is held by GL Dameck who do the actual production. https://www.gldgroup.com/about-us

GL Dameck have recently sub-licensed this to Castore
https://fashionunited.uk/news/fashion/c ... 4031974684

It's not really clear whether they will continue to be Umbro branded (I would imagine this will continue to be the case for their bigger deals like England Rugby and West Ham) or some may end up as Castore or even co-branded (seems unlikely).

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:17 am**

oh so it appears castore and umbro are one and the same? contract shouldnt matter then

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:19 am**

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:10 am
You not a fan of a blue and white half / half 3rd kit ?

Don’t even go there

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:20 am**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:17 am
That could quite possibly be wrong and I’m sure all contract extensions have exit clauses.

There seems to be enough people in the know saying it’s Castore now and I’m sure there was some link to Castore via an ex Exec so that would make sense?

Although Castore seem to have a bad reputation I’m all up for a change. I’m not a massive fan of Umbro.

you may have been thinking of this from the takeover thread last May - of course Thompson left (it is suspected it wasn't by choice) last August/September and joined 777 Partners

Chester Perry wrote: ↑
Wed May 10, 2023 10:13 am
I wouldn't be surprised if there are 3 or 4 more investors in ALK/VSL in that picture - I have been trying to find a picture of Antonio Davila Parra (he is a bit of a ghost online) for quite some time now so I cannot tell if he is there -hoping someone else has more info

The guy directly behind Alan Pace is the club COO Mark Thompson - he used to work for Castore so it will be interesting to see what happens with the next kit deal (summer of 2024 i think)

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:23 am**

Chester Perry wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:20 am
you may have been thinking of this from the takeover thread last May - of course Thompson left (it is suspected it wasn't by choice) last August/September and joined 777 Partners

Oh god, out of the frying pan and in to the fire there then!

But yes, that was who I was referring to.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:33 am**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:38 am
There’s an article online saying we’d signed a deal with Umbro until 2026?! Good and bad news if true.

Bad:

- From what I’ve seen Castore kits are quite plain and boring
- Quality issues reported although you’d expect they might’ve resolved them next year.

Good:

- I think they do some miles better/smart merchandise I might actually wear
- Umbro have been hit & miss - they deserve sacking for this years efforts though
- We won’t have templated GK kits and training wear that are exactly the same as loads of other local clubs

Personally this is my all time favourite - super clean look - also a new Martin Dobson would be extremely welcome

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Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:45 am**

Are Castore still part owned by the EG brothers? Too much of a Blackburn connection for my liking!

All the Castore kits/clothes I’ve seen have been awful. Proper bargain bin vibes. A poor-man’s Donnay.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:49 am**

Chester Perry wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:33 am
Personally this is my all time favourite - super clean look - also a new Martin Dobson would be extremely welcome

Dobson Home.png

Dobson Away.png

Yes, that’s a good kit.

I’m not against plain per se, I quite like ‘clean’ looking kits, my comment was that from what I’ve seen all 3 kits are usually quite boring designs.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:53 am**

claret2018 wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:45 am
Are Castore still part owned by the EG brothers? Too much of a Blackburn connection for my liking!

All the Castore kits/clothes I’ve seen have been awful. Proper bargain bin vibes. A poor-man’s Donnay.

Says so here:

https://news.sky.com/story/sports-kit-m ... t-13018941

Sound like minority investors but still one to add to the negative column

Don’t think EG group do much with Rovers do they?

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:59 am**

It would be great if we had adidas again

There kits are so much better than Umbro even the bog standard ones.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:12 pm**

Are we sure that the strip will have the Castore brand?

Castore announced yesterday that they had purchased the Umbro brand in the UK but would still be marketing Umbro

https://castore.com/blogs/press/castore ... ts-licence

Edit- apologies just seen the post from aggi

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:15 pm**

Castore is absolute junk. I can’t believe they’ve managed to get some of the contracts that they have.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:20 pm**

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:15 pm
Castore is absolute junk. I can’t believe they’ve managed to get some of the contracts that they have.

You'd think, being a multi-billion pound industry and having 'professionals' agreeing to these contracts, that the Club have had assurances and are confident of the quality/lead times for delivery etc.

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:23 pm**

aggi wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:11 am
Umbro don't manufacture their own stuff. The Umbro brand is owned by Iconix who own a variety of fashion brands (disappointed we didn't go with their other brand Pony rather than Umbro) and just does licensing and marketing for them.

The UK licence for Umbro is held by GL Dameck who do the actual production. https://www.gldgroup.com/about-us

GL Dameck have recently sub-licensed this to Castore
https://fashionunited.uk/news/fashion/c ... 4031974684

It's not really clear whether they will continue to be Umbro branded (I would imagine this will continue to be the case for their bigger deals like England Rugby and West Ham) or some may end up as Castore or even co-branded (seems unlikely).

This explains everything then

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:24 pm**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:23 am
Oh god, out of the frying pan and in to the fire there then!

But yes, that was who I was referring to.

He has left 777 Partners too - Now at Saracens Rugby

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=74169&p=2267045&hil ... n#p2267045

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:25 pm**

i view Castore on a similar level to Lonsdale or Slazenger, please say its not true

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:32 pm**

If it is castore i can only see a stars and stripes 3rd kit

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