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Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:04 pm
by ElectroClaret
Just announced she is undergoing treatment for cancer.
(BBC)

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:10 pm
by jos
I wish her well and hope she has a full and complete recovery.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:11 pm
by Rileybobs
Shame on the conspiracists and those who demanded to be informed on the private matter of her health. I wish her all the best.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:12 pm
by BurnleyFC
Sad news, but you’d have to assume she’s in the best hands so would have the best possible chance for recovery.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:12 pm
by BurnleyFC
Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:11 pm
Shame on the conspiracists and those who demanded to be informed on the private matter of her health. I wish her all the best.
Some of them are just pure evil.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:14 pm
by jrgbfc
Hopefully she gets left in peace now.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:16 pm
by DCWat
Hopefully caught quickly. I wish her a speedy recovery and the privacy that everyone deserves going through such a thing.

All of the furore about the doctored image the other week and calls for more information about her prolonged absence from public life didn’t sit comfortably, at the time.

Perhaps we now know why and hopefully a few will have been put back in their box, think about the individual, not their public status and their ‘right to know’, in future.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:17 pm
by bfcjg
Regardless of your views on the monarchy, etc, she is a mother with young children, I hope she beats it and makes a full recovery.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:21 pm
by NottsClaret
Seemed fairly obvious why she wanted to be left alone at the time, but some ghouls can't help themselves. Don't know the lady, but good luck to her, hope she's ok.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:29 pm
by fatboy47
The bbc is stressing her need for privacy and the importance of protecting her from media intrusion.

It then proceeded to spend well over 2/3 of the main news programme on pictures of her walking up and down, and speculating on her condition.

I wish her well along with around 1,000 relatively young people who recieve a cancer diagnosis every day in Britain.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:33 pm
by Goliath
NottsClaret wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:21 pm
Seemed fairly obvious why she wanted to be left alone at the time, but some ghouls can't help themselves. Don't know the lady, but good luck to her, hope she's ok.
Choosing to doctor images rather than tell the truth is not the mature way to go about it and is what fueled the fire.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:36 pm
by ClaretDiver
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:20 pm
Of course they got a lot of coverage, what do they expect when they lie to the public.

If anything it shows the importance of honesty. Unfortunately being in such a priveledged position comes with drawbacks, primarily a lack of privacy. She cant just choose to hide when she wants to, thats what she signed up to when she married into the family.

If theyd have been honest straught away they wouldnt have had to go through the media bombardment.
Really? Are you seriously that callous??

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:36 pm
by ClaretDiver
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:33 pm
Choosing to doctor images rather than tell the truth is not the mature way to go about it and is what fueled the fire.
Again….troll off!

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:39 pm
by CoolClaret
Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:11 pm
Shame on the conspiracists and those who demanded to be informed on the private matter of her health. I wish her all the best.
Exactly what I thought upon seeing the news - and that's why I have absolutely 0 time or tolerance for them these days.

They've caused so much damage to society in recent years.

Irrespective of one's thoughts on the Royal Family as an institution, no one wants to see anyone ill - and she seems like a really decent woman.

The saving grace is that she really will have the best possible care.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:41 pm
by abdulp
I’m not a royalist but anyone with any humanity can only despair at some of the idiotic responses but some on this thread. Let’s hope she makes a full recovery.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:43 pm
by brunlea99
I use easily available photo editing software to make my photos look better, including editing out unwanted elements. I'm sure quite a lot of people do this too. I wouldn't perceive this as doctoring the photos do deceive anyone.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:44 pm
by BurnleyFC
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:33 pm
Choosing to doctor images rather than tell the truth is not the mature way to go about it and is what fueled the fire.
What has it got to do with you in the first place?

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:49 pm
by Goliath
BurnleyFC wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:44 pm
What has it got to do with you in the first place?
Nothing i dont care to be honest, they don't interest me. Im just giving an opinion from a neutral standpoint. I genuinely don't think people understand what being a royal entails.

Privacy doesnt exist, thats part of the role. I also genuinely find it worrying how easy it is to just doctor images now to create a false reality, but thats another discussion really.
Why on earth they thought it was a good idea is mind boggling.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:51 pm
by Carlos the Great
BurnleyFC wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:12 pm
Some of them are just pure evil.
Conspiracy theorists are so annoying .. i bet they think this is some sort of hoax ..

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:56 pm
by Clovius Boofus
I hope at least few of the conspiracy nutjobs are hanging their heads in shame this evening.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:09 pm
by beeholeclaret
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:49 pm
Nothing i dont care to be honest, they don't interest me. Im just giving an opinion from a neutral standpoint. I genuinely don't think people understand what being a royal entails.

Privacy doesnt exist, thats part of the role. I also genuinely find it worrying how easy it is to just doctor images now to create a false reality, but thats another discussion really.
Why on earth they thought it was a good idea is mind boggling.
I think they wanted time to explain things to their 3 children and felt they were being backed into a corner by press and speculation. Probably not the best idea to edit a photo but probably a mother trying to present a brave face to the public.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:23 pm
by BurnleyFC
Clovius Boofus wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:56 pm
I hope at least few of the conspiracy nutjobs are hanging their heads in shame this evening.
The one’s I’ve seen on Facebook aren’t - it was a CGI video now, apparently.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:24 pm
by Anonymous Claret
Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:11 pm
Shame on the conspiracists and those who demanded to be informed on the private matter of her health. I wish her all the best.
If they didn't lie and put out doctored photos there wouldn't have been nowhere near the speculation that there has been. As Goliath has already mentioned it sends a message that it is ok for the Royal family abetted by the media to 'conspire' to lie to the public. It wasn't just a little lie either it was a catalogue of them.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:24 pm
by Bosscat
Wishing her and her family good wishes for a hopefully speedy and full recovery.

Perhaps the k*obh*ad media and troll community leave them alone to process (and get on with) everything.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:24 pm
by CoolClaret
BurnleyFC wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:23 pm
The one’s I’ve seen on Facebook aren’t - it was a CGI video now, apparently.
& further down the rabbit hole they'll go, doubling down because their pathetic ego can't take possibly being wrong.

Occam's Razor, forever and always.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:26 pm
by Bosscat
brunlea99 wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:43 pm
I use easily available photo editing software to make my photos look better, including editing out unwanted elements. I'm sure quite a lot of people do this too. I wouldn't perceive this as doctoring the photos do deceive anyone.
Snap... I got rid of unwanted images in our trip to Irelands pics last autumn using software on my phone ...

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:27 pm
by Clovius Boofus
Unfortunately, the Internet is both a blessing and a curse.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:27 pm
by BurnleyFC
Anonymous Claret wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:24 pm
If they didn't lie and put out doctored photos there wouldn't have been nowhere near the speculation that there has been. As Goliath has already mentioned it sends a message that it is ok for the Royal family abetted by the media to 'conspire' to lie to the public. It wasn't just a little lie either it was a catalogue of them.
There was never any indication that the photo they put out was recent. It was simply a Mother’s Day message.

In fact, you’d have to be brain dead to have assumed it was a recent photo, seeing as she was recovering from major abdominal surgery which we now know is cancer related.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:37 pm
by Vegas Claret
NottsClaret wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:21 pm
Seemed fairly obvious why she wanted to be left alone at the time, but some ghouls can't help themselves. Don't know the lady, but good luck to her, hope she's ok.
Exactly this, they haven't done her any favours. Arseholes, every last one of them

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:52 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
Ah well the internet bullies and trolls have had their way yet again, sadly it's the acceptable way of things in this day and age, although I can guarantee some flat earthers will say it's a CGI generated video and Kate is already dead

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:58 pm
by kentonclaret
Cue the wall to wall coverage and endless analysis on all major news channels.
Wishing her and her young family all the best and for a speedy recovery.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:04 pm
by Juan Tanamera
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:20 pm
Of course they got a lot of coverage, what do they expect when they lie to the public.

If anything it shows the importance of honesty. Unfortunately being in such a priveledged position comes with drawbacks, primarily a lack of privacy. She cant just choose to hide when she wants to, thats what she signed up to when she married into the family.

If theyd have been honest straught away they wouldnt have had to go through the media bombardment.
I must have missed that bit where they lied.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:13 pm
by Goliath
Juan Tanamera wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:04 pm
I must have missed that bit where they lied.
Really? You missed that they doctored a photo and published it to the world to portray a false image?

I also find the digs at the conspiracy theorists bizarre. They were absolutely spot on and its this exact behaviour from the powers of the world that creates conspiracy theories

People dont think they can trust a word that comes out of the elite and that generates alternative theories. Unfortunately the are correct not to trust, we are constantly fed nonsense as has been shown over and over again

Ps i should add that its a horrible illness and I wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. Hopefully its been caught early to give her the best chance of recovery.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:19 pm
by Targetman
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:13 pm
Really? You missed that they doctored a photo and published it to the world to portray a false image?

I also find the digs at the conspiracy theorists bizarre. They were absolutely spot on and its this exact behaviour from the powers of the world that creates conspiracy theories

People dont think they can trust a word that comes out of the elite and that generates alternative theories. Unfortunately the are correct not to trust, we are constantly fed nonsense as has been shown over and over again

Ps i should add that its a horrible illness and I wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. Hopefully its been caught early to give her the best chance of recovery.

...."I dont care to be honest, they dont interest me"....

Well why would you post in the first place and then continue to make further posts?

Give it a rest fella! :lol:

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:22 pm
by Goliath
Targetman wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:19 pm
...."I dont care to be honest, they dont interest me"....

Well why would you post in the first place and then continue to make further posts?

Give it a rest fella! :lol:
Because people kept responding. Its sort of how a forum works. Are we only allowed to talk about things we are really passionate about?

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:26 pm
by Stayingup
Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:11 pm
Shame on the conspiracists and those who demanded to be informed on the private matter of her health. I wish her all the best.
Absolutely right.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:27 pm
by Stayingup
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:20 pm
Of course they got a lot of coverage, what do they expect when they lie to the public.

If anything it shows the importance of honesty. Unfortunately being in such a priveledged position comes with drawbacks, primarily a lack of privacy. She cant just choose to hide when she wants to, thats what she signed up to when she married into the family.

If theyd have been honest straught away they wouldnt have had to go through the media bombardment.
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Go and wash your mouth out.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:29 pm
by Stayingup
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:20 pm
Of course they got a lot of coverage, what do they expect when they lie to the public.

If anything it shows the importance of honesty. Unfortunately being in such a priveledged position comes with drawbacks, primarily a lack of privacy. She cant just choose to hide when she wants to, thats what she signed up to when she married into the family.

If theyd have been honest straught away they wouldnt have had to go through the media bombardment.
Wash your mouth out.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:37 pm
by BurnleyFC
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:13 pm
Really? You missed that they doctored a photo and published it to the world to portray a false image?

I also find the digs at the conspiracy theorists bizarre. They were absolutely spot on and its this exact behaviour from the powers of the world that creates conspiracy theories

People dont think they can trust a word that comes out of the elite and that generates alternative theories. Unfortunately the are correct not to trust, we are constantly fed nonsense as has been shown over and over again

Ps i should add that its a horrible illness and I wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. Hopefully its been caught early to give her the best chance of recovery.
I’ve not come across a conspiracy theorist that has been spot on about everything yet.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:40 pm
by CoolClaret
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:13 pm
Really? You missed that they doctored a photo and published it to the world to portray a false image?

I also find the digs at the conspiracy theorists bizarre. They were absolutely spot on and its this exact behaviour from the powers of the world that creates conspiracy theories

People dont think they can trust a word that comes out of the elite and that generates alternative theories. Unfortunately the are correct not to trust, we are constantly fed nonsense as has been shown over and over again

Ps i should add that its a horrible illness and I wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. Hopefully its been caught early to give her the best chance of recovery.
No they weren't. They were wrong just as they're wrong about literally everything.

Stop being a moron.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:45 pm
by yTib
good luck to her.

cancer really doesn't discriminate.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:45 pm
by Juan Tanamera
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:13 pm
Really? You missed that they doctored a photo and published it to the world to portray a false image?
Are you seriously getting all worked up over a harmless bit of photo shopping?
Because that's all it was really.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:54 pm
by The Shire Claret
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:13 pm


I also find the digs at the conspiracy theorists bizarre. They were absolutely spot on and its this exact behaviour from the powers of the world that creates conspiracy theories
It’s not bizarre at all. For every genuinely intelligent person that tries to do good by exposing someone or something regarding positions of power …. You get hundreds of not thousands of severely uneducated narcissists belittling a minority’s intentions to do good with wild and incredibly dangerous misinformation.

These people have made the true meaning of exposing genuine conspiracies a complete and utter joke.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:55 pm
by FCBurnley
Juan Tanamera wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:45 pm
Are you seriously getting all worked up over a harmless bit of photo shopping?
Because that's all it was really.
So who was behind the fake photo at Windsor farm shop as published in the Daily Mail ?

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:08 pm
by Goliath
Juan Tanamera wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:45 pm
Are you seriously getting all worked up over a harmless bit of photo shopping?
Because that's all it was really.
No? I think if people zoom out a bit though and stop trying to get offended by nothing thrn they would see the damage that kind of dishonesty can cause. Especially in this day and age when trust of the establishment is at an all time low.

Its interesting to see the faux rage on here when i give a fairly uncontroversial opinion. Do people think Kate Middleton posts on here?

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:27 pm
by Goliath
CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:40 pm
No they weren't. They were wrong just as they're wrong about literally everything.

Stop being a moron.
This is what confuses me. They weren't wrong, the photo wasn't real and I believe the video the Sun used wasn't genuinely Kate either.

There's numerous conspiracy theories that have been seen to be true and i genuinely think they play an important part in society.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:28 pm
by yTib
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:27 pm
This is what confuses me. They weren't wrong, the photo wasn't real and I believe the video the Sun used wasn't genuinely Kate either.

There's numerous conspiracy theories that have been seen to be true and i genuinely think they play an important part in society.
give it a rest man.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:29 pm
by RammyClaret61
Anonymous Claret wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:24 pm
If they didn't lie and put out doctored photos there wouldn't have been nowhere near the speculation that there has been. As Goliath has already mentioned it sends a message that it is ok for the Royal family abetted by the media to 'conspire' to lie to the public. It wasn't just a little lie either it was a catalogue of them.
Because the press have never ever put out a doctored/photoshopped picture.
Because the press have never lied or published an untruth.
The bottom line is, she’s a mother, she wanted to tell her children when SHE was ready. Not when some grubby attention seeking hack wants to get him/herself high fives around the office.

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:30 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Goliath wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:27 pm
This is what confuses me. They weren't wrong, the photo wasn't real and I believe the video the Sun used wasn't genuinely Kate either.

There's numerous conspiracy theories that have been seen to be true and i genuinely think they play an important part in society.
Do you think it's possible that William, as President of the FA has put Kate up to this to provide a distraction from the purple Cross?

Re: Princess of Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:35 pm
by Goliath
The Shire Claret wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:54 pm
It’s not bizarre at all. For every genuinely intelligent person that tries to do good by exposing someone or something regarding positions of power …. You get hundreds of not thousands of severely uneducated narcissists belittling a minority’s intentions to do good with wild and incredibly dangerous misinformation.

These people have made the true meaning of exposing genuine conspiracies a complete and utter joke.
I agree that there's clearly morons that are conspiracy theorists as well as morons that believe everything they read in the media. Does that mean we should disregard everything thats called a 'conspiracy'?

Id suggest as an example that Jimmy Saville would still be seen as a legendary eccentric but for the persistance of conspiracists as one example.

Ill also add here before it comes up, i dont class myself as a conspiracy theorist.