RATE THE REF - Darren England v Chelsea

[jdrobbo]

Darren England (South Yorkshire) v Chelsea
How to Score
A. Decision Making (including use of advantage) - out of 25
B. Consistency - out of 25
C. Fitness and Positioning - of 25
D. Control and Authority - out of 25


Please only Rate the Ref if you attended the game today and only after the game has ended. Thank you!

[CleggHall]

Come on ……wait for it?!

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

This should be interesting….

[Bosscat]

Could this be a "Nil Points" vote

[Leyland Claret]

This rating should put him at the bottom of the Rate The Ref table and rightly so. He is a joke of a ref

[ClaretTony]

A 8
B 8
C 18
D 8

[Bin Ont Turf]

A -S
B -H
C- I
D -T

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Penalty decision aside Connor Gallagher 4 fouls in first half (each one was a potential yellow) Cullen 1 foul straight yellow just before half time.

[FCBurnley]

A 0
B 25 consistently shocking
C 1 for arriving prior to kick off
D 1 for controlling his bladder ( as far as I know )

[THEWELLERNUT70]

We've seen some shite this season but Christ on a bike that was an absolutely appalling display and I haven't said this for a long time, but he looked unfit and laboured throughout too

[fungus_the_bogeyman]

A 5
B 5
C 10
D 5

Absolutely shocking.

[Silkyskills1]

A 0( based on Brownhill being kicked in the chest and having a free kick awarded against him)
B 0 ( based on Gallagher kicking his way through the first half and going unpunished
C 0( based on his perfect position for the 'sending off' but managing to make not one but two potential game changing decisions within 10 seconds of each other)
D 0 ( based on Cullen making one challenge, perhaps a foul and being booked for it because the referee's head had 'gone'
Keep hearing about progress with match officials but this wasn't one to pit in the 'shop window'. Simply appallingly unacceptable levels of competence and officialdom.

[beddie]

A 0( based on Brownhill being kicked in the chest and having a free kick awarded against him)
B 0 ( based on Gallagher kicking his way through the first half and going unpunished
C 0( based on his perfect position for the 'sending off' but managing to make not one but two potential game changing decisions within 10 seconds of each other)
D 0 ( based on Cullen making one challenge, perhaps a foul and being booked for it because the referee's head had 'gone'
Keep hearing about progress with match officials but this wasn't one to pit in the 'shop window'. Simply appallingly unacceptable levels of competence and officialdom.

If all that is correct I hope we complain. I’d like to see it on Mic’d Up with Howard Webb and Michael Owen.

[TheFamilyCat]

A 0( based on Brownhill being kicked in the chest and having a free kick awarded against him)
B 0 ( based on Gallagher kicking his way through the first half and going unpunished
C 0( based on his perfect position for the 'sending off' but managing to make not one but two potential game changing decisions within 10 seconds of each other)
D 0 ( based on Cullen making one challenge, perhaps a foul and being booked for it because the referee's head had 'gone'
Keep hearing about progress with match officials but this wasn't one to pit in the 'shop window'. Simply appallingly unacceptable levels of competence and officialdom.

At the end of the game on 5Live it said the second yellow was for dissent.

Not sure if that's right or not but if it is it excuses England from one of his howlers.

[Goody1975]

If all that is correct I hope we complain. I’d like to see it on Mic’d Up with Howard Webb and Michael Owen.

No, we'll see Howard Webb championing the fact the game wasn't "re-refereed", whilst coming across like someone at the NEC selling his new vacuum cleaner. His lapdog (Owen) will chirp in with occasional vomit inducing ******** to make Howard look good.

[beddie]

I wasn’t there so can’t score but I've just watched the penalty. I just don’t get that at all. It’s something and nothing that goes on throughout a game all the time. I hope he gets dropped for that decision alone.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

No, we'll see Howard Webb championing the fact the game wasn't "re-refereed", whilst coming across like someone at the NEC selling his new vacuum cleaner. His lapdog (Owen) will chirp in with occasional vomit inducing ******** to make Howard look good.

Won’t be long before Sky and BT have a whole show with referees on. Find most of them nauseating to listen to a bit like the VAR audio’s that are released.

[IanMcL]

Blind, fatherless, plays with himself and totally biased.

Apart from that, inept and clueless.

[burnleymik]

At the end of the game on 5Live it said the second yellow was for dissent.

Not sure if that's right or not but if it is it excuses England from one of his howlers.

I heard that too, but from watching it I didn't see Assignon really get in his face or angry, he was stood open mouthed in disbelief for most of it, so I can't see it being dissent.

[bfcjg]

Can't mark but for heavens sake the richest league in the world and we have that. Hard job to be ref not many want to do it but something needs to change.

[BabylonClaret]

Utter utter dogger. The penalty was a joke a d the yellow even worse.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Utter utter dogger. The penalty was a joke a d the yellow even worse.

But for the big teams they simply cannot wait to give the decision. As is always said anyone who has played football at any level knows that cannot be a foul.

[BurnleyFC]

A proper C U Next Tuesday in a league and profession full of them.

[quoonbeatz]

Standards of refereeing in the Premier league remain absolutely in the gutter. An appalling performance, an embarrassment to the profession. Plenty to laugh at though. Taking 500 replays to spot the most blatant handball and disallow their first. Booking Esteve for not taking a free kick quickly enough while a Chelsea player is stood 2 yards from the ball. Given them a free kick for booting Brownhill in the chest. These guys are so substandard it's ridiculous now.

[northeastclaret]

A proper C U Next Tuesday in a league and profession full of them.

Are you saying Rob Jones is the ref on Tuesday?

[taio]

An absolutely diabolical performance

[Goody1975]

Are you saying Rob Jones is the ref on Tuesday?

Fortunately it's not him, it's Thomas Bramall, who in the main has been decent when I've seen him.

[Goodclaret]

Seriously, that has to be one of the worst "performances" this season. Just so, so much wrong. There is not a cat in hells chance he would have given a pen and sent off a Chelsea player in the same circumstances. The Premier League and the "best ref's" is/are so (I don't like using this word) corrupt. It's hard enough trying to stay in this league on basic competition but to try and beat the officials too is absolutely impossible.

[dsr]

The problem with referees isn't just that England is incompetent. Refs nowadays are trained to be incompetent by the PGMOL. Look at the two penalties Newcastle got today. One, both players went for the ball, neither got it, their boots clashed, penalty. The second one, the West Ham man tried to kick it, Gordon stuck his leg in front of the defender to trip him up, Gordon fell over, penalty. They have as many TV replays as they want and they have not got a clue what they are seeing.

[quoonbeatz]

They have zero understanding of football, that's long been the problem. VAR is a waste of everyone's time as they don't know what they are looking at.

[distortiondave]

They have zero understanding of football, that's long been the problem. VAR is a waste of everyone's time as they don't know what they are looking at.

This is really the crux of it.
It's like they've been given the rules/laws of the game and told to enact them.
By that metric, I could referee American Football or Kabaddi or Monopoly.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

I would rather we trained AI to referee games.

[Wile E Coyote]

Dreadful , inept, amateurish refereeing. The stuff they let go week in week out with no punishment is appalling, All contrary to laws of the game and recent guidelines, and this clown cost us the game. Absolutely shocking.

[THEWELLERNUT70]

Let's hope they don't put this cretin in charge of our last game at home to Forest because if there's anything riding on it and he does that sort of thing again he might get lynched

[THEWELLERNUT70]

Dreadful , inept, amateurish refereeing. The stuff they let go week in week out with no punishment is appalling, All contrary to laws of the game and recent guidelines, and this clown cost us the game. Absolutely shocking.

It's a fair point. For the last few months we've had the phrase "the bar/ tariff is set really high now" both by pundits and those Dermot Gallagher types when a penalty hasn't been awarded rammed down our throats.

It's blatantly ******** and is only used when it suits a narrative

[Boss Hogg]

England and Rob Jones should be nowhere near the Premier League. Whoever monitors these two clowns isn’t doing their job properly.

[dsr]

Do you think he watches the game back to see what a mess he has made of things?

Of course, it just might help if VAR did its job of telling the ref there is something that might be worth a second look. As it stands, when the ref gives a penalty, VAR will give it even if the contact is restricted to a flick of the hair. And if the ref doesn't give a penalty, like with Everton today, VAR won't give it unless it's clearly and obviously a foul - and not always then. Basically, the VAR position is that there is no way to tell what is a foul and what isn't, so let the referee take a guess.

All the VAR man is allowed to do is advise the ref that there is something to look at. This can be determined in 15 seconds or less. Why then waste time on the VAR man deciding what he would have done - when he has no power to do it?

[Wile E Coyote]

can't say with any authority, because it would be hypothetical, but my gut feeling is had it been Arsenal instead of us then those decisions by the officials would be different. I cant think why referees should be biased, because it looks improbable, but yesterday made a mockery of their role at this level. .

[dsr]

can't say with any authority, because it would be hypothetical, but my gut feeling is had it been Arsenal instead of us then those decisions by the officials would be different. I cant think why referees should be biased, because it looks improbable, but yesterday made a mockery of their role at this level. .

Except of course it wouldn't be Arsenal, because they wouldn't let him do Arsenal matches. Or Liverpool, because he made that foul=up over the Liverpool offside goal when he adjudged the decision was right without actually knowing what the decision was. When you make a mistake against Liverpool, they don't let you referee Liverpool again because it isdn't right to make mistakes against Liverpool.

On the other hand, if you make a similar mistake against Burnley, such as disallowing Foster's goal against Forest, then do you get taken off Burnley games? No, of course not. The ppwers that be don't care if he makes mistakes against Burnley. He has only reffed 9 PL games this season, and we have been the victim in 3 of them.

[Acting Claret]

Can we have that woman ref again please?

[Clive 1960]

One word sums up England. BIAS .

[Petersa]

Can we have that woman ref again please?

Quite, she got rave reviews from one and all but can't recall seeing her again. Has she done a game since?

[Hibsclaret]

Quite simply we win the game with a different ref/var. Not the first time this has happened this season. In fact we have lost almost half as many points as our current total in games that would have had different outcomes with better/fairer refs. You can only conclude that incredibly poor referee bias could send us down.

You just want to turn up and watch a fair match played out. Incredible that it doesn’t so often in such a high profile league.

[Clarky]

This self appointed/governing PGMOL should be sacked off by the supposedly best league in the world, who then should employ and manage the best refferees in the world.

[MT03ALG]

One word sums up England. BIAS .

Other words spring to mind: incompetent, bribed, ignorant (of the Laws of the Game),

[northeastclaret]

Interesting that Mike Halsey the ex ref saying words to the effect that Jones and England should have been sacked by now for their ongoing incompetence , but they won’t be.

[LincsWoldsClaret]

At some point a captain or manager will have the balls to say unless you can protect my players or apply the rules of the game correctly, I’m taking my team off. That would get their attention.

[gc14]

I mentioned Gallagher getting away with 3 card worthy challenges ,also Brownhill flicked the ball down the line only to get a boot to the
face , decision free -kick Chelsea .Also why was Jackson allowed to stand on Muric's right hand side constantly impeding him from kicking
or rolling it out .. He did the same when Esteve was taking a free-kick he was about 5 yards from the ball but to the side and when he went
to take it Jackson moved a yard closer so Esteve stopped ... decision yellow for Esteve !!

[JohnMcGreal]

Mudryk cheated. The referee fell for it and his colleagues at Stockley Park failed to correct him. Sending off Assignon and Kompany was just taking the ****.

Shambolic stuff.

[SouthLondonexile]

Has to be - and there have been a number - the worst ever referee ever to have officiated a Burnley game.
He was so unbelievably biased in his decision making seeming to offer for example disproportionate punishment to our defender for such a limp challenge in the penalty area.
I cannot give any meaningful score to England.