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Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:07 pm
by Tricky Trevor
There has been a spouting of players with double barrelled surnames over the last few years.
What I have found strange is how many of them have a surname for a christian name.
TRENT Alexander-Arnold
BAILEY Peacock-Farrell
TAYLOR Harwood-Bellis
KEANE Lewis-Potter
JONSON Clarke-Harris(P’boro)
CONNOR Lemonheigh-Evans(Stockport)
MACAULEY Southam-Hales(Stockport)
Yes, I am bored. Arsenal are on.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:09 pm
by Juan Tanamera
Lemonheigh is a wonderful name.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:12 pm
by dandeclaret
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:07 pm
There has been a spouting of players with double barrelled surnames over the last few years.
What I have found strange is how many of them have a surname for a christian name.
TRENT Alexander-Arnold
BAILEY Peacock-Farrell
TAYLOR Harwood-Bellis
KEANE Lewis-Potter
JONSON Clarke-Harris(P’boro)
CONNOR Lemonheigh-Evans(Stockport)
MACAULEY Southam-Hales(Stockport)
Yes, I am bored. Arsenal are on.
Have you met jdrobbo? You'll get on well with him, posing questions like this.....
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:14 pm
by claptrappers_union
It's a fancy way of letting people know your from a broken home
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:28 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Just another stupid trend to emerge over the last decade.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:30 pm
by Spike
Everyone remembers the referee Lee Freaking Mason
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:31 pm
by Pickles
I like Connor Lemonheigh-Evans because often commentators don't pronounce the 'h' so it sounds like he's called Connor Evans but he smells a bit citrusy.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:46 pm
by Silkyskills1
First one I recall from a long time ago was Ian Storey-Moore.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:54 pm
by getbennyon
The big mystery will be when the next generation of double barrel meets double barrel.
Will we have quadruple barrelled names?
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:03 pm
by Boss Hogg
Used to be seen as Upper Class now it’s the polar opposite.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:10 pm
by ClaretsPadiham
Gifton Noel-Williams
Ian Thomas-Moore
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:15 pm
by claretburns
Brian Barry-Murphy
Shaun Wright-Philips
Bradley Wright-Philips
Jake Forster-Caskey
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:18 pm
by Poulton-le-Claret
Djemba-Djemba

Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:28 pm
by dougcollins
Used to be posh people with double barrelled. Now it's kind of the opposite.
It's like once upon a time only hard people had tattoos, and now it's kind of the opposite.
(Sorry boss, just seen your post - I totally agree).
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:53 pm
by Rileybobs
Boss Hogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:03 pm
Used to be seen as Upper Class now it’s the polar opposite.
Some pretty distasteful comments here. No doubt double-barrelled surnames are now more popular as more people have children outside of wedlock and give their children both surnames, or couples choose not to inherit their partner’s name when marrying. Not sure why this would have anything to do with someone’s ‘social class’, which itself is an outdated concept.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:55 pm
by Herts Clarets
Forbes Phillipson Masters with the poshest football name ever
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:56 pm
by CoolClaret
getbennyon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:54 pm
The big mystery will be when the next generation of double barrel meets double barrel.
Will we have quadruple barrelled names?
I always wonder this!
Just silly isn't it?
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:59 pm
by Marney&Mee
Yung Lee-Sharpe
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:02 pm
by TheFamilyCat
getbennyon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:54 pm
The big mystery will be when the next generation of double barrel meets double barrel.
Will we have quadruple barrelled names?
I worked with a lass who was double barrelled. Turns out her and her wife were both double-barrelled when they were single. They took one of their original double barrelled names to make their double barrelled name.
They split up. I'm not surprised tbh, just that naming part sounded like hard work.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:15 pm
by IanMcL
Easier if Vitinho
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:27 pm
by Alanstevensonsgloves
claptrappers_union wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:14 pm
It's a fancy way of letting people know your from a broken home
My daughter was born out of wedlock and given my surname. When I split with her mum, we added after my surname her mums surname, so that my daughter would have the same surname as her mum and brother (not mine) as they were living together.
For the above reason I insisted that the now double surname was not hyphenated, and that my daughter be known by her mums surname only. My surname exists only legally for her.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:39 pm
by roperclaret
A couple at work got married last June. They still haven’t decided if they are going to be Robinson-Jeanes or Jeanes-Robinson
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:56 pm
by Rowls
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:07 pm
There has been a spouting of players with double barrelled surnames over the last few years.
What I have found strange is how many of them have a surname for a christian name.
TRENT Alexander-Arnold
BAILEY Peacock-Farrell
TAYLOR Harwood-Bellis
KEANE Lewis-Potter
JONSON Clarke-Harris(P’boro)
CONNOR Lemonheigh-Evans(Stockport)
MACAULEY Southam-Hales(Stockport)
Yes, I am bored. Arsenal are on.
The surname-as-Christian-name thing is a trend among lower income demographics who are also most likely to be divorced, hence the propensity to also have double barreled surnames
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:58 pm
by Rileybobs
Rowls wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:56 pm
The surname-as-Christian-name thing is a trend among lower income demographics who are also most likely to be divorced, hence the propensity to also have double barreled surnames
Please explain how a surname as a Christian name is a trend among lower income demographics.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:19 pm
by kentonclaret
When Jonson Clarke-Harris needs to be substituted Peterborough bring on Ephron Mason-Clark.

Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:18 am
by Rowls
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:58 pm
Please explain how a surname as a Christian name is a trend among lower income demographics.
It's an anecdotal observation borne out in the OP.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:42 am
by ChrisG
I think the most surprising thing about this post is the amount of folk that use the phrase Christian name.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:46 am
by CharlieinNewMexico
ChrisG wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:42 am
I think the most surprising thing about this post is the amount of folk that use the phrase Christian name.
This
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:58 am
by Greenmile
Rowls wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:18 am
It's an anecdotal observation borne out in the OP.
I very much doubt that any of the people mentioned in the OP fall into a lower income demographic. Few professional footballers do

Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:47 am
by FigSlice
There have always been trends in names. The footballers mentioned would suggest that this is a trend starting about 25-30 years ago? Doing genealogy research, in the early twentieth century it was popular to give the first born son the mother's maiden name as his middle name. In my family this has continued, but now given to girls as well. But the branch to which it applies doesn't hyphenate, so you can read it as double barrelled or that they give their full name. In the nineteenth century I've seen instances of illegitimate children being given their father's surname as a middle name in baptism registers where the father is not named because the parents aren't married. Either to "name and shame" to ensure there was a record of who he was if the parish needed to pursue him for financial support or if the parents did marry after the birth, the mother's surname would be quietly dropped from later records and the child would be known by their father's surname. First or middle names may be traditional within a family. My brother's first name is that of our uncle, killed whilst serving with the RAF in WW2. It is my middle name. There seems to be a recent trend for giving children the same starting initial. My best recent example is parents overheard on holiday calling to their children Aubrey and Aurelia, delightful, well behaved pre-schoolers. In the early 1960s my mother was completely convinced she was carrying a boy and was very surprised to be delivered of a girl. No girl names had been considered and she and Dad were struggling. She said the best advice she was given was by a night nurse at Bank Hall. Whatever they chose, they should remember that this cute baby would one day by fair, feisty, fat and forty. You have been warned!
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:35 am
by Foshiznik
Can't believe some are claiming double barrelled names as something of a modern day trend.
Probably blow the minds of these same people when they discover some nobleman particularly in the 19th century had quadruple and quintuple barrelled names like Augustus Henry Lane-Fox-Pitt-Rivers or Richard Temple-Nugent-Brydges-Chandos-Grenville, 3rd Duke of Buckingham and Chandos.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:41 am
by helmclaret
Rowls wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:56 pm
The surname-as-Christian-name thing is a trend among lower income demographics who are also most likely to be divorced, hence the propensity to also have double barreled surnames
What a ridiculous comment
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:51 am
by claptrappers_union
Well, it is a modern-day trend, especially in football. We are seeing much more of it these days.
Maybe it's because the names are printed above the numbers on the back of the shirts. Maybe footballers want to credit both parents in that regard. They probably wouldn't use both names if they lived outside the public eye. I dunno, it's a personal choice, isn't it?
However, we had a player named Anthony Glennon, who was registered with the Premier League as Anthony Driscoll-Glennon. He didn't use his double-barrelled name in club publications—I'm not sure if he still does for Grimsby now
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:54 am
by Spike
Double barrelled names are so childish . Just like football teams with more than one name .
Preston Knob End sounds like an under 8 team
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:31 am
by PaintYorkClaretnBlue
Greenmile wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:58 am
I very much doubt that any of the people mentioned in the OP fall into a lower income demographic. Few professional footballers do
I’m not sure that they were rich footballers when they were named at birth

Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:03 pm
by Rowls
ChrisG wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:42 am
I think the most surprising thing about this post is the amount of folk that use the phrase Christian name.
Gosh yes. How shocking.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:26 pm
by GetIntoEm
roperclaret wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:39 pm
A couple at work got married last June. They still haven’t decided if they are going to be Robinson-Jeanes or Jeanes-Robinson
the most cuck thing known to man.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:28 pm
by ChrisG
Rowls wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:03 pm
Gosh yes. How shocking.
I mean, it's pretty archaic. I don't recall hearing the term since I was a kid in the 80s.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:34 pm
by Foshiznik
ChrisG wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:28 pm
I mean, it's pretty archaic. I don't recall hearing the term since I was a kid in the 80s.
To be fair the average age of our posters is probably around 65-75, so it's not entirely surprising that they haven't gotten to grasp the changing times.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:38 pm
by Tricky Trevor
ChrisG wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:28 pm
I mean, it's pretty archaic. I don't recall hearing the term since I was a kid in the 80s.
Apologies ChrisG but I was a child of the 50s and raised in a Christian family.
Forename or foreskin which ever suits, you knew what I meant.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:42 pm
by Quicknick
Foshiznik wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:34 pm
To be fair the average age of our posters is probably around 65-75, so it's not entirely surprising that they haven't gotten to grasp the changing times.
And what's more, they still use the British past participle of 'to get'. Although its use in the US form is cumbersome in this sentence. 'They haven't grasped the changing times' would read better.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:44 pm
by ChrisG
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:38 pm
Apologies ChrisG but I was a child of the 50s and raised in a Christian family.
Forename or foreskin which ever suits, you knew what I meant.
It's been Vorname and Nachname for me of late on the million and one forms the Germans love so much
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:55 pm
by JohnMcGreal
Rowls wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:56 pm
The surname-as-Christian-name thing is a trend among lower income demographics who are also most likely to be divorced, hence the propensity to also have double barreled surnames
If it isn't Lord Snooty himself, Jacob Rowls-Mogg!

Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:01 pm
by AlargeClaret
The most amusing thing in the thread is the apparent rage of some ,that the trend in double barrel names is a “ working class “ thing . Using a name often a surname as the “ Christian” name has been a thing for 20+ yrs easily .
I’d have thought these champions of the lower orders would be aware of their need to “ mimic posh” with their jewellery , fake watches , hideous head to toe designer ensembles etc not to mention the Range Rover as the vehicle of choice for you’re wannabe gangster .
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:49 pm
by dougcollins
Foshiznik wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:35 am
Can't believe some are claiming double barrelled names as something of a modern day trend.
Probably blow the minds of these same people when they discover some nobleman particularly in the 19th century had quadruple and quintuple barrelled names like Augustus Henry Lane-Fox-Pitt-Rivers or Richard Temple-Nugent-Brydges-Chandos-Grenville, 3rd Duke of Buckingham and Chandos.
Yep. Posh people.
Unlike today.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:13 pm
by Taffy on the wing
Spike wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:30 pm
Everyone remembers the referee Lee Freaking Mason
Isn't he in charge of VA freaking R?
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:54 pm
by Im_not_Robbie_Blake
Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall (Leicester) - a wonderful name. His cousin is Barnsley Town-Hall.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:43 pm
by ecc
Wokist.
Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:19 pm
by Clarets4me
I understood that the prevalence of these " double-barrelled " names, was because of the increasing number of children born to un-married couples who took both parent's names. I'm sure I read Sean Wright-Phillips added his mother's name as a tribute to his mother for bringing him up largely on her own, which I suspect is true for a few others ...
The early 20th Century trend of giving mother's maiden names as middle names is correct, my maternal Grandfather ( b.1904 ) was George Jubb Lawford, his mother being Mary Jane Jubb.
I work, on occasion, as a Cover Supervisor in Schools ... a few weeks after starting, a kindly teacher warned me, " Watch out for Archie's and Alfie's, Maisie's tend to be trouble as do Keisha's and Lily-Mae's, oh, and don't get me started on Jensen's & Tyler's ! "
( Apologies to any posters offended )

Re: Double barrelled surnames.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:33 pm
by yTib
Clarets4me wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:19 pm
I work, on occasion, as a Cover Supervisor in Schools ... a few weeks after starting, a kindly teacher warned me, " Watch out for Archie's and Alfie's, Maisie's tend to be trouble as do Keisha's and Lily-Mae's, oh, and don't get me started on Jensen's & Tyler's !
for someone who works in a school your misuse of apostrophes is shocking.