BFCITC Dinner - 4 May 2024 @ Hilton MCR Deansgate

[ŽižkovClaret]

Looks a good do. Some will complain it isn't in Burnley, but it needs to be remembered that it is a fundraising occasion for BFCITC and doing it in Manchester raises the maximum funds.

[Quickenthetempo]

They would move the club to Manchester if they could.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Should be at the Kierby and priced £2 per head with pie n peas thrown in

[ŽižkovClaret]

Should be at the Kierby and priced £2 per head with pie n peas thrown in

Funny thing is, the ones who would comment that seriously go awfully quiet when you suggest that they could organise such a do themselves in aid of BFCITC, should they wish.

Its a big do, to raise funds. It really is a no brainer to do it where they do.

It shouldn't, imo be instead of a Player's awards evening, but maybe that's fallen by the wayside now in changing times. You can't really do an awards do before the last game of the season, and increasingly many of our players will want to be off abroad pretty much straight after the final whistle on the last day. Can't say i blame them tbh

[dougcollins]

Should be at the Kierby and priced £2 per head with pie n peas thrown in

You'd have a lot more thrown in at the Kierby!

[Marney&Mee]

They would move the club to Manchester if they could.

I’d drive them there myself…

[bodge]

You'd have a lot more thrown in at the Kierby!

Indeed Doug, if staying over, it's imperative to keep your door shut otherwise there may be some unwanted surveillance from the night porter.

[ŽižkovClaret]

But they have clean rooms!

[wilks_bfc]

But they have clean rooms!

Clean en-suite rooms

[MT03ALG]

Funny thing is, the ones who would comment that seriously go awfully quiet when you suggest that they could organise such a do themselves in aid of BFCITC, should they wish.

Its a big do, to raise funds. It really is a no brainer to do it where they do.

It shouldn't, imo be instead of a Player's awards evening, but maybe that's fallen by the wayside now in changing times. You can't really do an awards do before the last game of the season, and increasingly many of our players will want to be off abroad pretty much straight after the final whistle on the last day. Can't say i blame them tbh

Why should only ONE player receive an award ?

[ClaretTony]

Funny thing is, the ones who would comment that seriously go awfully quiet when you suggest that they could organise such a do themselves in aid of BFCITC, should they wish.

Its a big do, to raise funds. It really is a no brainer to do it where they do.

It shouldn't, imo be instead of a Player's awards evening, but maybe that's fallen by the wayside now in changing times. You can't really do an awards do before the last game of the season, and increasingly many of our players will want to be off abroad pretty much straight after the final whistle on the last day. Can't say i blame them tbh

Was never difficult to arrange player of the year evenings in previous years and the managers and players were fully supportive with only one exception. Last year for this charity do it was announced that this was the only way you could meet the players and manager at a cost of £200. Those kids who used to go to the Supporters Groups Player of the Year Evening now miss out, and that's before their season ticket prices have gone through the roof.

[Leisure]

Why should only ONE player receive an award ?

At the Supporters Clubs Awards Evening all the supporters clubs made awards, so quite a few different players received them.

[MT03ALG]

Post above refers to 'Player's Awards Evening' i.e. Awards Evening of Player

[Goliath]

Was never difficult to arrange player of the year evenings in previous years and the managers and players were fully supportive with only one exception. Last year for this charity do it was announced that this was the only way you could meet the players and manager at a cost of £200. Those kids who used to go to the Supporters Groups Player of the Year Evening now miss out, and that's before their season ticket prices have gone through the roof.

Sign of the times i'm afraid. The players and management seem to have no interest in taking time out of their busy schedules to build links with the town.

[ŽižkovClaret]

Was never difficult to arrange player of the year evenings in previous years and the managers and players were fully supportive with only one exception. Last year for this charity do it was announced that this was the only way you could meet the players and manager at a cost of £200. Those kids who used to go to the Supporters Groups Player of the Year Evening now miss out, and that's before their season ticket prices have gone through the roof.

Times change unfortunately.

I was 18 at the time when I handed Paul Weller the online player of the year in 2001 iirc

[Rodleydave]

The People's Club... club and town inextricably linked... family club... consideration and regard for rank and file supporters... appreciation for club history... I think not... people being moved out of long held seats to make way for more corporate seats... end of supporters club awards night...the Manchester shindig that costs an arm and a leg... the disappearance of the player portraits that were around the stadium... the director who in one episode of Mission to Burnley proclaimed we're here to make money...the hike in pensioner season tickets...the cost of in-stadium food... FAB smoke and mirrors...consultation on new ticket prices nil... Ian Dury... Reasons to be Cheerful... I think not...

[Goliath]

The People's Club... club and town inextricably linked... family club... consideration and regard for rank and file supporters... appreciation for club history... I think not... people being moved out of long held seats to make way for more corporate seats... end of supporters club awards night...the Manchester shindig that costs an arm and a leg... the disappearance of the player portraits that were around the stadium... the director who in one episode of Mission to Burnley proclaimed we're here to make money...the hike in pensioner season tickets...the cost of in-stadium food... FAB smoke and mirrors...consultation on new ticket prices nil... Ian Dury... Reasons to be Cheerful... I think not...

Parklife!

[wilks_bfc]

Parklife!

I was thinking more “Wear sunscreen”

[Leisure]

The People's Club... club and town inextricably linked... family club... consideration and regard for rank and file supporters... appreciation for club history... I think not... people being moved out of long held seats to make way for more corporate seats... end of supporters club awards night...the Manchester shindig that costs an arm and a leg... the disappearance of the player portraits that were around the stadium... the director who in one episode of Mission to Burnley proclaimed we're here to make money...the hike in pensioner season tickets...the cost of in-stadium food... FAB smoke and mirrors...consultation on new ticket prices nil... Ian Dury... Reasons to be Cheerful... I think not...

Whilst unfortunately people at the rear of the JMc Lower are having to move, it's not to accommodate more hospitality. It's to accommodate corporate away fans instead of them sitting in the JH Upper.

[ŽižkovClaret]

Whilst unfortunately people at the rear of the JMc Lower are having to move, it's not to accommodate more hospitality. It's to accommodate corporate away fans instead of them sitting in the JH Upper.

I wonder if the club could offer them the respective JHU seats instead at their current JML rates as a sweetener?

Sure not everyone would go for it but it might take the edge off

[Leisure]

I wonder if the club could offer them the respective JHU seats instead at their current JML rates as a sweetener?

Sure not everyone would go for it but it might take the edge off

I think that is the case and for 2024/25 it would be at the same price that they would be paying in the JMc Lower but it is only for the next season and then they would have to pay the going ST rate.

[Loyalclaret]

Whilst unfortunately people at the rear of the JMc Lower are having to move, it's not to accommodate more hospitality. It's to accommodate corporate away fans instead of them sitting in the JH Upper.

Hope that is tongue in cheek Pete! Even if true, i'd hope it would never officially come out. I know friends, sure you will know them to, who had watched Burnley everywhere since the 70's, who gave up when the first few rows were taken from JML a few years ago. To have that happen for corporate away fans would be a kick in the teeth

[ClaretTony]

Hope that is tongue in cheek Pete! Even if true, i'd hope it would never officially come out. I know friends, sure you will know them to, who had watched Burnley everywhere since the 70's, who gave up when the first few rows were taken from JML a few years ago. To have that happen for corporate away fans would be a kick in the teeth

Leisure is right - this season they have been accommodating some of the Jimmy Mac corporate guests in the Longside upper during the match. That led to the problems, certainly at the Everton game. So, for next season, they have extended the seating in the Jimmy Mac lower to accommodate them. It's not for away fans per se but if away fans are in the hospitality in that stand then they will now be sat there.

[Bordeauxclaret]

The People's Club... club and town inextricably linked... family club... consideration and regard for rank and file supporters... appreciation for club history... I think not... people being moved out of long held seats to make way for more corporate seats... end of supporters club awards night...the Manchester shindig that costs an arm and a leg... the disappearance of the player portraits that were around the stadium... the director who in one episode of Mission to Burnley proclaimed we're here to make money...the hike in pensioner season tickets...the cost of in-stadium food... FAB smoke and mirrors...consultation on new ticket prices nil... Ian Dury... Reasons to be Cheerful... I think not...

What happened to the clarets hero’s pictures in the end?
The last I heard there was a discussion to place them somewhere else but they wanted to inform those people directly involved first. That was some time ago.

[ClaretTony]

What happened to the clarets hero’s pictures in the end?
The last I heard there was a discussion to place them somewhere else but they wanted to inform those people directly involved first. That was some time ago.

It's something I'm still dealing with but, as yet, I have no update. Still trying to get them placed but the club made it absolutely clear that they were not wanted on the club's footprint so we had to look elsewhere.

[Conroysleftfoot]

It's something I'm still dealing with but, as yet, I have no update. Still trying to get them placed but the club made it absolutely clear that they were not wanted on the club's footprint so we had to look elsewhere.

Sorry Tony if this is going over old ground but have the hierarchy said why they don't want them on the club's footprint?

[IanMcL]

Was never difficult to arrange player of the year evenings in previous years and the managers and players were fully supportive with only one exception. Last year for this charity do it was announced that this was the only way you could meet the players and manager at a cost of £200. Those kids who used to go to the Supporters Groups Player of the Year Evening now miss out, and that's before their season ticket prices have gone through the roof.

Corporate venture. Not for fans.
Crying shame. They are eroding one of the strongest 'football town' club in the world, by ignoring these events and moments.

[ClaretTony]

Sorry Tony if this is going over old ground but have the hierarchy said why they don't want them on the club's footprint?

We were told by the chairman that they would be going back up but it didn’t happen. Some considerable time later we were told by Russell Ball that they wouldn’t be going back up because Alan doesn’t like them.

[Conroysleftfoot]

We were told by the chairman that they would be going back up but it didn’t happen. Some considerable time later we were told by Russell Ball that they wouldn’t be going back up because Alan doesn’t like them.

He may not like them but I would have thought the vast majority of the fans do, is this just his club now?

[claret2018]

I can see it from the clubs point of view to make these things a bit more professional and upmarket. You can’t be a premier league team and having your players and staff turn up to the local dog and duck to sit with the great unwashed for an evening.

[ClaretTony]

He may not like them but I would have thought the vast majority of the fans do, is this just his club now?

Very definitely - nothing gets done unless he wants it.

[beddie]

Up and until ALK’s takeover we’ve always felt part of a family club, unfortunately we don’t feel that anymore. We’ll continue to renew our s/t but somehow it’s just not the same.

[Ightenhill_Claret]

Very definitely - nothing gets done unless he wants it.

And then he sends his mate Bobby out to explain it. Is there a chance of them being placed in the memorial garden Tony? That’s not on the club’s footprint but would mean Clarets could see them on a match day? Or perhaps Calico (?) or the council could accommodate on the railings opposite the Bob Lord Stand?

[Leisure]

Hope that is tongue in cheek Pete! Even if true, i'd hope it would never officially come out. I know friends, sure you will know them to, who had watched Burnley everywhere since the 70's, who gave up when the first few rows were taken from JML a few years ago. To have that happen for corporate away fans would be a kick in the teeth

See Tony's post at 4.37pm.

[mikeS]

Don't we play Newcastle that day?

[BurnleyFC]

Very definitely - nothing gets done unless he wants it.

It’s about time that **** mural of him on that terraced house near the Turf gets painted over.

[jdrobbo]

It’s about time that **** mural of him on that terraced house near the Turf gets painted over.

Isn’t that Sean Connery?

[Clovius Boofus]

I can see it from the clubs point of view to make these things a bit more professional and upmarket. You can’t be a premier league team and having your players and staff turn up to the local dog and duck to sit with the great unwashed for an evening.

Not everywhere in the area is a shithole. For instance, we have Crow Wood on our doorstep.

[Goliath]

Not everywhere in the area is a shithole. For instance, we have Crow Wood on our doorstep.

But then the players and staff would have to spend more than their contracted training and match day hours in Burnley and that just won't do

[ŽižkovClaret]

Very definitely - nothing gets done unless he wants it.

Must admit if i owned the club i'd be the same

[GetIntoEm]

is anyone whos bought tickets going for a beer beforehand?

[ClaretTony]

Must admit if i owned the club i'd be the same

Pleased you don't then and I'm surprised at that response from a supporter

[ŽižkovClaret]

Pleased you don't then and I'm surprised at that response from a supporter

Sure there is some delegation, but wouldn't you b the same?

[ClaretTony]

Sure there is some delegation, but wouldn't you b the same?

100% no

[Burnley1989]

Sure there is some delegation, but wouldn't you b the same?

Go on Zizkov, you’re dieing to say it

[ŽižkovClaret]

Go on Zizkov, you’re dieing to say it

Not sure i follow, so by all means expand?

[claptrappers_union]

Anything with Burnley Football Club can be answered with a question…

Does it make money? No? Then we won't do it.

[Lambo]

Went to an awards do at the Hilton, Deansgate last month…table service so ordered small bottle of beer and a bottle of Sauvignon Blanc (Turtle Bay) and the robbing bast***s charged me £68 including a £6 service charge for table service (the only service available)….Turtle Bay is £12.99 in Sainsbury’s I didn’t buy any more

[Clovius Boofus]

Went to an awards do at the Hilton, Deansgate last month…table service so ordered small bottle of beer and a bottle of Sauvignon Blanc (Turtle Bay) and the robbing bast***s charged me £68 including a £6 service charge for table service (the only service available)….Turtle Bay is £12.99 in Sainsbury’s I didn’t buy any more

What a bunch of robdogs. Also, if you're charging 'upmarket' hotel or restaurant prices, then your wine list should be more imaginative than the local supermarket, even for the least expensive wines on the list.

[TsarBomba]

It's something I'm still dealing with but, as yet, I have no update. Still trying to get them placed but the club made it absolutely clear that they were not wanted on the club's footprint so we had to look elsewhere.

Tony- you may have already thought of this, but have you approached the council, whether it be Burnley or Lancashire, and asked about incorporating the player boards along the upgraded town to turf route?