I’m so sick of Kompany

[Holtyclaret]

Over is perhaps the wrong word, but after 15 games the damage may already be done and result in falling well behind. In addition, any new manager, and I know it’s not going to happen, would be left with another managers signings to motivate.

Does not every manager in a new post, it’s the job they applied for.

We could have 0 points after 10-15 games and still be promoted. But we won’t only have 0 points will we?

[Dark Cloud]

Absolutely no point whatsoever in parting company now as we're down and mistakes have been made and (maybe?) lessons learned and we go again next season. If we sacked Kompany we'd immediately start looking for someone with an extremely good Championship pedigree and maybe even a promotion on his CV . Well weirdly that would be VK! If we're not looking likely after 12? games next season, then it becomes a different issue. Having said that the "lessons learned" part HAS to be clear and obvious. Some of his signings, his team selections, his tactics and (possibly most baffling of all) his use of substitutions have bordered on utterly bizarre and have really not helped us in any way. If he's not learning from those mistakes, then he's not the guy I believed he was this time last year (Bearing in mind I was at Middlesbrough exactly a year ago tomorrow to see us clinch promotion at a canter and I genuinely thought the guy was some kind of deity.)

[dandeclaret]

A learning curve suggests an upwards trend, as the team learns.

This season feels more like a learning plateau.

[ElectroClaret]

How we reacted to that was poor though. There didn’t seem to be a game plan to create a chance. Just sideways passing which got more sloppy as the game progressed. Where was a goal ever going to come from in that second half? It’s like we’re waiting for the opposition to make a mistake, which most other Premier League teams avoid doing when leading games. Subs were a bit hit and hope and also too late to actually make a difference to the flow of the game.

Hopefully VK learns a lot from this season and we get another chance at the PL in 18 months.

I think that sums up today's game rather well.

[MeeActon1]

Does not every manager in a new post, it’s the job they applied for.

We could have 0 points after 10-15 games and still be promoted. But we won’t only have 0 points will we?

Of course not. It’s more how many points others have.

[Ilkley claret]

A learning curve suggests an upwards trend, as the team learns.

This season feels more like a learning plateau.

More like an inverted yield curve for our American owners

[Vegas Claret]

I don’t think there’s much, if any hysteria to be fair. Our fans have been very patient this season considering we’ve won just 19 points from 32 games. Kompany is very lucky to still have credit in the bank from last season, and perhaps in part living off his record as a top footballer rather than a manager.

For some perspective. At this stage in our last season at this level, winning our last 6 games would still see this side relegated.

I'm talking about the same few people on here, I bet they lost their **** when we lost at home to QPR last season too.

[expoultryboy]

Agree MD , bringing those 3 subs on in the 91st minute was taking the xxxx .

[Rileybobs]

I'm talking about the same few people on here, I bet they lost their **** when we lost at home to QPR last season too.

Maybe there are a few that go overboard, that’s fair enough. But it’s hard to argue that they’ve not got a point. This season has been an absolute disaster. We don’t seem to have done anything right since winning promotion nearly 12 months ago. Kompany is very very lucky to still be in this job when you consider the ruthless environment he’s working in.

[RammyClaret61]

32 games, and I can’t see any learning curve.

[dandeclaret]

More like an inverted yield curve for our American owners

I think that's how I shall refer to it from here on in....

[Exsus]

We’re down due to his and Pace’s decisions in the transfer market. You couldn’t keep this squad up with Guardiola in charge, it’s unbalanced and full of glitter covered nuggets of shite that don’t work hard.

That said, Vinny is a 101 point title winning manager at Championship level. Why dispense and pray Pace somehow pulls another rabbit out of the hat with his next appointment? I think he was incredibly lucky with Kompany.

Totally agree.

[Cooclaret]

The level of hysteria is bordering 'nutjob' status for some.

Why’s it classed as hysteria to call the manager out as being out of his depth?

[Cooclaret]

A learning curve suggests an upwards trend, as the team learns.

This season feels more like a learning plateau.

At our expense…

[Gaia]

Kompanys points return for 90 million pounds spend is diabolical. Hope he resigns as we can't afford to sack him.

[Vegas Claret]

Maybe there are a few that go overboard, that’s fair enough. But it’s hard to argue that they’ve not got a point. This season has been an absolute disaster. We don’t seem to have done anything right since winning promotion nearly 12 months ago. Kompany is very very lucky to still be in this job when you consider the ruthless environment he’s working in.

It was obvious in July what would happen this season, staggeringly inept summer transfer window. I'm just someone who thinks chopping and changing managers doesn't often end well and he deserves the same opportunity as Dyche does to bring the team back. Pressure is on now though, top two next season is a must.

[Shaggy]

Why’s it classed as hysteria to call the manager out as being out of his depth?

It’s not, its a coping mechanism for some who don’t like change.

Which ever way we look at ot the squad is going to be ripped up again and we are going to see another huge turnover in the summer.

Let’s see if we can land lucky this time.

If at any point after the first international break we are not in the hunt for automatic promotion then VK should be under huge pressure.

[Vegas Claret]

Why’s it classed as hysteria to call the manager out as being out of his depth?

because you think sacking the manager is the fix and have been screaming about it every other week for the entire season. Last season we lost at home to QPR, just about beat Rotherham at home and only drew away, drew with Hull and Stoke etc etc - why would you think "being promoted" would suddenly make him an experienced Premier League manager that would have no issues in the Premier League especially with such and young and inexperienced team ?

I'd love to know what your expectations were at 7:44:59 before we kicked off against Man City

[Rileybobs]

It was obvious in July what would happen this season, staggeringly inept summer transfer window. I'm just someone who thinks chopping and changing managers doesn't often end well and he deserves the same opportunity as Dyche does to bring the team back. Pressure is on now though, top two next season is a must.

I certainly wasn’t convinced but was hopeful we’d unearthed some genuine upgrades. That doesn’t really seem the case and you’ve got to question a coach who thought it would be easier to buy a new team rather than coach and improve an already coherent and skillful squad of players. The latter approach has seen Luton make a huge gain on us in the same period of time.

I don’t think Kompany necessarily ‘deserves’ the opportunity. He has deprived a number of last season’s team of that same opportunity. I’d stick with him now without a doubt, the time to get rid was probably around Christmas time whereas now there’s little to gain.

[fidelcastro]

I don’t think Kompany necessarily ‘deserves’ the opportunity. He has deprived a number of last season’s team of that same opportunity. I’d stick with him now without a doubt, the time to get rid was probably around Christmas time whereas now there’s little to gain.

I wouldn't have an issue with sacking him now and sticking Jackson in charge for the remaining six games, personally. It won't happen though.

What Kompany has done to a squad of players, that must have been on cloud nine after promotion, by disassembling it almost entirely, is nothing short of shameful, and to have spent the amount of money he has doing it makes it even worse.

[Vegas Claret]

I certainly wasn’t convinced but was hopeful we’d unearthed some genuine upgrades. That doesn’t really seem the case and you’ve got to question a coach who thought it would be easier to buy a new team rather than coach and improve an already coherent and skillful squad of players. The latter approach has seen Luton make a huge gain on us in the same period of time.

I don’t think Kompany necessarily ‘deserves’ the opportunity. He has deprived a number of last season’s team of that same opportunity. I’d stick with him now without a doubt, the time to get rid was probably around Christmas time whereas now there’s little to gain.

this season has just felt like a massive wasted opportunity. They only had to pay attention to what Southampton did and how that ended to know that having a team with too much youth and inexperience was always going to end in relegation.

[TsarBomba]

I can only echo the majority of sentiments. There doesn’t appear to be much learning going on, especially from VK.

Today was just the story of our season. Not good enough in key games/moments and repeatedly shooting ourselves in the foot.

Maybe does us a favour getting beat today, because we absolutely know what league we are in next season now, and the planning can start in earnest.

[Vegas Claret]

today reminded me us away at Norwich under Dyche

[JimmyRobbo]

I wouldn't have an issue with sacking him now and sticking Jackson in charge for the remaining six games, personally. It won't happen though.

What Kompany has done to a squad of players, that must have been on cloud nine after promotion, by disassembling it almost entirely, is nothing short of shameful, and to have spent the amount of money he has doing it makes it even worse.

Disassembling? Who?

[Rileybobs]

this season has just felt like a massive wasted opportunity. They only had to pay attention to what Southampton did and how that ended to know that having a team with too much youth and inexperience was always going to end in relegation.

Yep. And you’ve got to wonder what the mood and unity is within the camp. There’s bound to be more than the usual share of unhappy players which is a self inflicted situation. A happy workforce is a more productive workforce.

[fidelcastro]

today reminded me us away at Norwich under Dyche

Where we still had more points in fewer games than we have now.

[Vegas Claret]

Yep. And you’ve got to wonder what the mood and unity is within the camp. There’s bound to be more than the usual share of unhappy players which is a self inflicted situation. A happy workforce is a more productive workforce.

agree 100%. I can't defend much about this season but like I already said last July, the nail was in the coffin before a ball was kicked because of the recruitment.

[Newcastleclaret93]

My biggest frustration with VK is every man and there dog can see the issues but for some reason he just can’t.

He needs to focus on the simple things and stop all this fancy bollock$ he’s trying push.

Stop playing people out of position and just focus on being solid team with lots of effort.

I cant stand the bloke, just want to see him gone.

[Vegas Claret]

Where we still had more points in fewer games than we have now.

I'm on about the performance, the quality just isn't there.

[fidelcastro]

Disassembling? Who?

The likes of Muric, Roberts, Benson, Cork, Zaroury, Cullen and one or two others who are/were no longer worthy of starting games. Then there's letting Barnes go, who couldn't have been any worse than Amdouni has this season.

[Safron]

this season has just felt like a massive wasted opportunity. They only had to pay attention to what Southampton did and how that ended to know that having a team with too much youth and inexperience was always going to end in relegation.

Ok then after rubbishing other posters posts why do you think kompany should be given another opportunity, today was the most abysmal performance in regards what we needed to have a chance of survival, everything from tactics to substitutions, forget the stupidity of muric we never looked like getting anything in a game we needed to win, and I'm sorry but he is clueless.

[Cirrus_Minor]

Hapless first half from us when Everton were so nervous they were in danger of making us look good. Followed by a buggers muddle of a second half against an a poor side. I haven't a clue how we were meant to be playing that game.

[Vegas Claret]

Ok then after rubbishing other posters posts why do you think kompany should be given another opportunity, today was the most abysmal performance in regards what we needed to have a chance of survival, everything from tactics to substitutions, forget the stupidity of muric we never looked like getting anything in a game we needed to win, and I'm sorry but he is clueless.

is that a serious question ?

[JohnMac]

Nobody wants to lose a game, Directors, Coaching staff, Players and Fans all want the same thing but this League has exposed players who last Season were considered outstanding.

Others we have brought in have found the pressure too much and the trend of promoted sides going down is destined to continue. Heartbreaking as it is, few of our players are ready for this level.

There are some exciting prospects, Koleosho and Odebert should go further in the game, a real find these two.

We have had years of quality strikers, Lyle Foster could be the one to continue that but know we are fortunate to still have him playing. If he stays I think he will get 15+ next season.

Very few inexperienced Managers have had an immediate impact in the PL but good ones learn.

Now is the time to appreciate the Staff and Players for what they may deliver next season rather than slate them for what they haven't this one.

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[kentonclaret]

We have had years of quality strikers, Lyle Foster could be the one to continue that but know we are fortunate to still have him playing. If he stays I think he will get 15+ next season.


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The last 3 seasons that Burnley have spent in the PL has resulted in them finishing the season as 1 of the 3 lowest scoring teams with it twice ending in relegation.
Why haven’t these “quality strikers” been finding the back of the net?

[KRBFC]

Benson this Benson that zzzzzzz

It’s pretty obvious we don’t have the defensive ability at fullback to carry a lazy weak winger. Foster 3 or 4 times in the first half was crucially back in his own box cutting out crosses.

He wasn’t even trusted to start in the Championship every week.

[Murger]

Benson this Benson that zzzzzzz

It’s pretty obvious we don’t have the defensive ability at fullback to carry a lazy weak winger. Foster 3 or 4 times in the first half was crucially back in his own box cutting out crosses.

He wasn’t even trusted to start in the Championship every week.

And yet you’ve called anyone who doesn’t understand what Amdouni brings to the team. You are a moron.

[Tufty]

It's forever been the case...managers frustrate fans with team selections. I was always baffled why Ternant wouldn't play Payton after he'd basically single-handedly won us promotion the season before.

And with VK I'm left thinking that Cork, Benson and Gudmonson must be awful footballers if they can't get in this starting 11.

[Vegas Claret]

Benson this Benson that zzzzzzz

It’s pretty obvious we don’t have the defensive ability at fullback to carry a lazy weak winger. Foster 3 or 4 times in the first half was crucially back in his own box cutting out crosses.

He wasn’t even trusted to start in the Championship every week.

to be fair, Benson is one of our only players who can pull a rabbit out of a hat. I'd rather have given him 30 mins today and lost 3-0 than not and lose by 1

[JR1882]

Today was everything we hoped the season wouldn’t become, but sadly has.

Going down without a fight, same mistakes, a no show performance, more mistakes, more red cards.

Seasons been a massive **** show as was today sadly.

Don’t really buy into the “let’s start planning for next season” as we knew in Feb last year we were going up, and still made a mess of the planning for it.

I just think everyone (fans) is drained of any life at this stage, don’t really care if we loose or not at this point, it’s dire.

[JohnMac]

The last 3 seasons that Burnley have spent in the PL has resulted in them finishing the season as 1 of the 3 lowest scoring teams with it twice ending in relegation.
Why haven’t these “quality strikers” been finding the back of the net?

Maybe because the previous Manager was a master of his craft and set up a framework to deliver risk averse football.

Barnes, Rodriguez, Wood, Gray, Vokes, Ings, Austin were all quality strikers.

[123EasyasBFC]

The fact is we played well until the goal. We actually defended with aggression and were the only side looking to play football. I wasn’t concerned about a lack of first half chances as long as it was 0-0 as the game would open up in the second half. Obviously that goes out of the window as soon as we gave a free goal away, which we tend to do more often than not.

How we reacted to that was poor though. There didn’t seem to be a game plan to create a chance. Just sideways passing which got more sloppy as the game progressed. Where was a goal ever going to come from in that second half? It’s like we’re waiting for the opposition to make a mistake, which most other Premier League teams avoid doing when leading games. Subs were a bit hit and hope and also too late to actually make a difference to the flow of the game.

Hopefully VK learns a lot from this season and we get another chance at the PL in 18 months.

I agree re how we reacted, and that’s been the case a lot this season when we are losing we play like the team winning. Our ‘style’ of slow build up play and recycling the ball makes you think we aren’t going for it.

I remember Neville or carragher saying at the beginning of the season they worried that we didn’t have a plan b for when we are chasing games and that’s true. Early in the season 1-0 down to a poor man united game and we made it so easy for them to close the game out. Same again wovles away and again today.

One big issue is we haven’t managed to stay in games for long to give ourselves that one last chance, something Luton have done well is stay in games

[Hipper]

I agree. I think the fans have been pretty good. I think on balance most people see the bigger picture. There’s only a couple of times they’ve really turned, notably Palace away.

What is 'the bigger picture'?

I thought it was staying in The Premier League. What is bigger then that (apart from staying in existence)?

[JimmyRobbo]

The likes of Muric, Roberts, Benson, Cork, Zaroury, Cullen and one or two others who are/were no longer worthy of starting games. Then there's letting Barnes go, who couldn't have been any worse than Amdouni has this season.

Barnes was out of his depth last time round in Prrem.
I have loved watching Cork but he's past it.
Amdouni hasn't been what I hoped he'd be, granted.
Benson, Cullen, Zaroury have all been played and disappointed in early season.
Muric has looked better than Trafford but we saw today where the issues are.

I think the disassembly was enforced.

[Woodleyclaret]

Jayrod and Benny needed to be on at half time
This was a must win game so why didn't the players and VK get the message
We need this to be a six point week with winnable
games v Wolves and Everton not the paltry one we got.

[BurnleyFC]

Absolutely shite today, in a season riddled with shiteness.

[123EasyasBFC]

Barnes was out of his depth last time round in Prrem.
I have loved watching Cork but he's past it.
Amdouni hasn't been what I hoped he'd be, granted.
Benson, Cullen, Zaroury have all been played and disappointed in early season.
Muric has looked better than Trafford but we saw today where the issues are.

I think the disassembly was enforced.

Don’t think benson really had early minutes played 45 minutes in a 4-2-4 formation against Villa and was taken off at half time and then we haven’t really seen him again

[KRBFC]

And yet you’ve called anyone who doesn’t understand what Amdouni brings to the team. You are a moron.

You’re talking about Benson having the season of his life in the Championship. You wanna moan about Amdouni being lazy? Would Benson get the same criticism?

That’s the problem here, this forum is full of hypocritical agenda driven nonsense.

Rodriguez can do no wrong despite doing nothing right all season.

Foster has been awful for most of the season, so sloppy with the ball, yet because he runs around a lot he’s given a free pass.

Let’s hammer Trafford all season yet when Muric kicks one into his own net let’s blame everyone but Muric.

Leaking goal after goal down Taylor’s side in back to back PL campaigns, consistently one of our worst rated players (by Opta stats) yet he’s given a free pass. It’s not his fault he can’t cross a football.

[Wile E Coyote]

he is right man for this job, no doubts in my mind. he won promotion battle and has had his work cut out at a higher level with a new team. they are trying to implement his plans for the games, but its a league brimming with talent and monied clubs way way beyond tiny Burnley.
We have not got the players to compete consistently, and they are less talented by and large. That's not the fault of VK, he is having to do the best with what he has, plain and simple. I hope he stays for next few years. great coach. I have faith in him.

[HuncoatClaret]

Embarrassing and inept management from Kompany this week.