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by The Shire Claret » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:07 pm
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:54 pm
Do you actually realise how much it is to sit in the JHU upper for a one off game this season?
That's Bayern effing Munich mate. The best/biggest team in Germany in one of the greatest Cities in the world - much more disposable income than Burnley ffs.
No one said Burnley is a charity - but as I've mentioned before on here, getting young Clarets on the Turf is crucial for the long term health of this club. It's easy enough for a young 'un to pick from a plethora of successful teams either in England or just the North West, getting families on the Turf and giving kids a buzz for it prevents that.
Might not matter now but in 10-20 years we need the younger fans - especially if we happen to find ourselves back as a mid table Champ team.
Just on this - Does anyone know how much it is for the cheapest kids ticket to a match at the Turf ?
I tried to see but cause the games are sold out I can't
Talking about getting the young ens in .... I used to pay for my ticket with my paper round money between 97 to 2000 and i think it was about £5.50 - £6
relative to today.... can a kid afford to just pay on ?
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by GetIntoEm » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:23 pm
£10 is the cheapest kids ticket, when not sold out
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by GetIntoEm » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:23 pm
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:35 pm
Do you understand how relativity and specifically wage relativity works?
The fact that our priciest tickets are the same as Bayern Munich's is fair bonkers just in and of itself.
The average salary in Munich is about €67K (£57K) / year ... UK average is £31K - burnley/lancs will be significantly less.
One league doesn't rip their fans off, one does - it's that simple.
The Season Tickets will continue to rise in price - give it 2-5 years and all of a sudden you'll be paying 1.5-2 x the price you were 10 years ago, do you think that's right?
if you want to do nice things and spend money on luxuries, get a better paid job. if you dont want to do that, then dont moan you cant afford it. simples
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by Wokingclaret » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:35 pm
Just renewed mine for the Bob Lord
Used my ticket buyback rewards and my share(s) team points to pay.
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by CoolClaret » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:42 pm
GetIntoEm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:23 pm
if you want to do nice things and spend money on luxuries, get a better paid job. if you dont want to do that, then dont moan you cant afford it. simples
Incredibly short sited, regressive view that takes absolutely zero nuance into account.
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by Jamesy » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:51 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:28 am
I'm on a tight budget now and the increase is big for me, but the even bigger increases for under-22s is horrendous. Ours are the biggest increases, percentage wise, in the Premier League so far by some considerable distance.
Aah but in a few weeks time when relegation is confirmed Tony, they will be actively telling us we are getting four extra games for our money.
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by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:53 pm
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:35 pm
Do you understand how relativity and specifically wage relativity works?
The fact that our priciest tickets are the same as Bayern Munich's is fair bonkers just in and of itself.
The average salary in Munich is about €67K (£57K) / year ... UK average is £31K - burnley/lancs will be significantly less.
One league doesn't rip their fans off, one does - it's that simple.
The Season Tickets will continue to rise in price - give it 2-5 years and all of a sudden you'll be paying 1.5-2 x the price you were 10 years ago, do you think that's right?
The dearest season ticket per age group works out per game at :-
Adult £22.82
Over 65 £15.65
Under 22 £15.65
Under 18 £6.26
You can also get tickets for under 12s working out at £2.52 per game
Which of these prices are you annoyed at most ? Do I think less than £23 for the dearest seat in the ground is a rip off for me ? No. Do you think it is ?
Some strange thought process that someone who doesn't have a season ticket and watches illegal streams is one of the most annoyed.
How many away games do you think we will have next season where the ticket price is lower than any of those listed above. Why do we have fans paying more than this every away game this season and next season yet it is so wrong to support your own club by paying those amounts. If we are ripping off fans how much should an under 18 work out at if just over £6 is so wrong ?
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by Jamesy » Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:26 pm
The ST increases this season are quite high. However, to put it into perspective this is what my local team Shrewsbury Town are now charging post early bird. I do agree with other posters though that prices should reflect the demographics and Burnley is a poorer area than Shrewsbury. However, these ST prices aren’t cheap for a side who consistently languish near the bottom of League One.
I was up at the match on Saturday and discussing our hospitality renewal in the Bob Lord Trophy Room for next season and I didn’t realise the price had gone up by 20%.
This season it was £2,250 + VAT (£2,700). Next season it will be £2,800 + VAT (£3,360). We have been members of the what was the 100 Club and now moved to the trophy room for over 15 seasons now and this is how they reward loyalty. We will probably renew to keep our seats, however this hospitality offering doesn’t reflect value for money anymore. If we don’t come back up within a couple of seasons the club may get egg on their faces when the lounges are only half full. Furthermore, they may upset loyal taken for granted hospitality members if they then try to sell lounge spaces on a discounted match by match basis.
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by CoolClaret » Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:41 pm
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:53 pm
The dearest season ticket per age group works out per game at :-
Adult £22.82
Over 65 £15.65
Under 22 £15.65
Under 18 £6.26
You can also get tickets for under 12s working out at £2.52 per game
Which of these prices are you annoyed at most ? Do I think less than £23 for the dearest seat in the ground is a rip off for me ? No. Do you think it is ?
Some strange thought process that someone who doesn't have a season ticket and watches illegal streams is one of the most annoyed.
How many away games do you think we will have next season where the ticket price is lower than any of those listed above. Why do we have fans paying more than this every away game this season and next season yet it is so wrong to support your own club by paying those amounts. If we are ripping off fans how much should an under 18 work out at if just over £6 is so wrong ?
For the probaby 10th time - would you like me to email you my match day ticket receipts, along with my number of Clarets Points? No problems
I'm specifically talking about how the price hikes are going to come along extremely quickly for season tickets - if you think it's just for one season you're in dreamland, as well as the price for individual games.
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by GetIntoEm » Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:45 pm
Get a season ticket at Bayern instead then
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by The Shire Claret » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:10 pm
GetIntoEm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:23 pm
£10 is the cheapest kids ticket, when not sold out
Ta
So relativity affordable still then
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by ClaretTony » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:11 pm
nbh wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:13 am
I have not been contacted by the club with regards to renewing my season ticket. No e-mail, text, letter or phone call. I'm wondering if it may be because of the e-mail I sent to complain about being asked to leave the stadium while watching the on pitch celebrations, at the last game of last season. Fortunately I keep track of advice on this site and have been been monitoring my Burnley account. It appears my dd is being renewed. I hope they don't mess it up.
nbh - email just received for my direct debit renewal
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by wilks_bfc » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:24 pm
I’ve just received an email to confirm my season ticket has auto renewed by direct debit
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by Claretitus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:04 pm
wilks_bfc wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:24 pm
I’ve just received an email to confirm my season ticket has auto renewed by direct debit
Me too. £42 a month for Championship footy isn’t too bad.
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by Bosscat » Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:30 pm
Claretitus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:04 pm
Me too. £42 a month for Championship footy isn’t too bad.
£30 a month for us old gits in JHU center ... so its £13+ a match in the Championship (plus its paid for by my Santander 123 account interest each month
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by Ptangyangkipperbang » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:01 pm
I bit the bullet and renewed for me and Grandson £471 for crap seats but really hoping to swap them Monday
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by ClaretTony » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:37 pm
Claretitus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:04 pm
Me too. £42 a month for Championship footy isn’t too bad.
I’ve gone from £24 a month for Premier League football to £30 a month for Championship football.
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by Rodleydave » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:44 am
Renewed 4 tickets overall increase app 17%.
All these increases will come back to bite our smiling illustrious owners on the backside next season if we languish mid table or below.
People will vote with their feet as they always have.
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by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:53 am
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:41 pm
For the probaby 10th time - would you like me to email you my match day ticket receipts, along with my number of Clarets Points? No problems
I'm specifically talking about how the price hikes are going to come along extremely quickly for season tickets - if you think it's just for one season you're in dreamland, as well as the price for individual games.
Yeah sure post your season ticket purchases and loyalty points, just screen shot them onto here.
If it is individual games you attend can I pick say 20 random games this season and you will be able to provide these ?
Lets start with Sheff Utd, Everton or Man Utd away these are recent ones, or the one from last Saturday against Brighton. There is 4 for a start
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by GetIntoEm » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:55 am
Rodleydave wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:44 am
Renewed 4 tickets overall increase app 17%.
All these increases will come back to bite our smiling illustrious owners on the backside next season if we languish mid table or below.
People will vote with their feet as they always have.
You're probably right. We have 1 season before the fair weather fans disappear again. They'll be back as soon as a promotion is on the cards again
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by Loyalclaret » Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:32 am
The email from the club for some fans with kid's tickets is incorrect, stating the adult DD price. Hopefully the email is wrong and DD are set up correctly.
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by Culmclaret » Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:07 am
Wasn’t going to renew but my resolve cracked this morning!
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by BleedingClaret » Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:21 pm
Always will do
That why they can get away with running the club as a club but also as a business so badly
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by Jamesy » Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:30 pm
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:53 am
Yeah sure post your season ticket purchases and loyalty points, just screen shot them onto here.
If it is individual games you attend can I pick say 20 random games this season and you will be able to provide these ?
Lets start with Sheff Utd, Everton or Man Utd away these are recent ones, or the one from last Saturday against Brighton. There is 4 for a start
It’s futile really. If the guy says he attends games then take his word for it. If he did provide the evidence you require would you apologise to him for calling him out?
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by GetIntoEm » Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:32 pm
Jamesy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:30 pm
It’s futile really. If the guy says he attends games then take his word for it. If he did provide the evidence you require would you apologise to him for calling him out?
hes not gonna do it, i'll lower the expectations and show us any 8 from this season.
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by Jamesy » Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:38 pm
Ok lads I will stay out of it.
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by CoolClaret » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:27 pm
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:53 am
Yeah sure post your season ticket purchases and loyalty points, just screen shot them onto here.
If it is individual games you attend can I pick say 20 random games this season and you will be able to provide these ?
Lets start with Sheff Utd, Everton or Man Utd away these are recent ones, or the one from last Saturday against Brighton. There is 4 for a start
I have 1280 loyalty points (forgot what it was before the cutoff date was changed) and have attended about 8 games this season - five I paid for, a few on others' tickets.
I didn't renew my ST 2 years ago because I couldn't commit to it with other life plans and have had a ST on and off (mainly on) since about 1996
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by Rick_Muller » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:35 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:37 pm
I’ve gone from £24 a month for Premier League football to £30 a month for Championship football.
chances are though CT that we'll be winning a few more games for the money (I hope!
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by ClaretTony » Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:54 pm
Rick_Muller wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:35 pm
chances are though CT that we'll be winning a few more games for the money (I hope!
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We’d struggle to win less I would imagine
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by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:54 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:54 pm
We’d struggle to win less I would imagine
Well that's next season jinxed.
On the plus side we will be decent odds to get relegated
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by Dassey » Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:32 pm
I might have read something wrong but in the past early bird renewal meant a discount price and guaranteed to keep your seat. This season it just means you keep your seat unless you want to swap on 22 April.
Like other greedy clubs they’ll be saying there is a massive waiting list and they’ve had record take up on the increased prices. Looking at clubs like forest,their fans have been shafted good and proper.
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by bigdavethemaddog » Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:49 pm
wonder how many will become available for members to buy next week?
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by GetIntoEm » Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:29 am
if you can believe the ticket office, they told me about 14000 were sold when i went in on the Brighton game
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by NewClaret » Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:51 am
GetIntoEm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:29 am
if you can believe the ticket office, they told me about 14000 were sold when i went in on the Brighton game
I imagine that’ll creep up to maybe 15,000 with annual payers leaving it till the last minute to renew. Good effort if we can get 15,000.
Anyone remember what it was last season in the Championship?
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by Quickenthetempo » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:22 am
NewClaret wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:51 am
I imagine that’ll creep up to maybe 15,000 with annual payers leaving it till the last minute to renew. Good effort if we can get 15,000.
Anyone remember what it was last season in the Championship?
I think 15k was about the limit.
3k walk ons needed.
2k for corporate
2.2k for away fans
Fag packet maths is 22.5k so a bit of wiggle room
21.5k capacity
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by Quickenthetempo » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:25 am
GetIntoEm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:29 am
if you can believe the ticket office, they told me about 14000 were sold when i went in on the Brighton game
They told someone last week it was 12k sold, but that was including everyone who paid by direct debit the year before and hadn't told the club they were cancelling.
Most would just cancel the DD.
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by NewClaret » Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:38 am
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:22 am
I think 15k was about the limit.
3k walk ons needed.
2k for corporate
2.2k for away fans
Fag packet maths is 22.5k so a bit of wiggle room
21.5k capacity
I think this year we had 16,500 ST holders so 15,000 would be a reduction on that, but if the waiting list really is 2,000 then my 15,000 projection could be topped up by them. If I’d been waiting a year to get a ST I’d take the chance when it arrived.
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by daveisaclaret » Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:40 am
It really feels like basically everyone who hasn't been stopped by personal circumstances has renewed. I think that's a fantastic show of support and will hopefully stop idiots chuntering about plastic/Premier League fans.
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by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:47 am
Rick_Muller wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:35 pm
chances are though CT that we'll be winning a few more games for the money (I hope!
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And you watch more home game's
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by Rick_Muller » Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:09 pm
AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:47 am
And you watch more home game's
well that depends on how many get moved to midweek for me - as I'm a weekend only type of fan
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by GetIntoEm » Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:11 pm
I think if we sold out of season tickets again it would be amazing. Considering the negativity you see on here, it doesn't seem to translate into ticket sales
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by The Shire Claret » Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:34 pm
GetIntoEm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:11 pm
I think if we sold out of season tickets again it would be amazing. Considering the negativity you see on here, it doesn't seem to translate into ticket sales
I'm pretty convinced we will.
If we don't get promoted again... then I think we will see a fall
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by NewClaret » Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:59 pm
GetIntoEm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:11 pm
I think if we sold out of season tickets again it would be amazing. Considering the negativity you see on here, it doesn't seem to translate into ticket sales
When you look through the Matchday threads it’s quite often very clear that the most negative don’t attend matches. Or aren’t season ticket holders, anyway.
From match going fans at home and away games I don’t hear any of the negativity I read on here.
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by Bosscat » Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:50 pm
All our group have now renewed for next season ...
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by The Shire Claret » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:19 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:59 pm
When you look through the Matchday threads it’s quite often very clear that the most negative don’t attend matches. Or aren’t season ticket holders, anyway.
From match going fans at home and away games I don’t hear any of the negativity I read on here.
This is my experience also
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by GetIntoEm » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:36 pm
Yeah you're right, the ones that moan the loudest are the ones most remote from being involved in the club
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by Murger » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:47 pm
GetIntoEm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:36 pm
Yeah you're right, the ones that moan the loudest are the ones most remote from being involved in the club
Care to name names? We’ve been a shitshow this season, and I’ve commented on matchday posts when I’m back home (I’m a season ticket holder).
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by Loyalclaret » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:19 pm
Murger wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:47 pm
Care to name names? We’ve been a shitshow this season, and I’ve commented on matchday posts when I’m back home (I’m a season ticket holder).
To be fair Murger you moan win, lose or draw and have for years