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Teams for Brighton

Post by burnley007 » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:27 am

Just been reading in the Brighton Gazette that they have a fair few injuries for Saturday, so that's positive.

We have a fair few missing though too. Beyer, Dakil, O'Shea, Koleosho, Ramsey, Redmond.

Who will come in for O'Shea? Ekdal? He looked miles off it last time. Delcroix? Probably, but then 2 left sided CB's.

Does Muric keep his place after THAT error?

I'll guess;

Muric
Assignon Delcroix Steve Taylor
Berge Cullen
JBL Brownhill Odobert
Foster

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Re: Teams for Brighton

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:29 am

I know we're struggling but recalling Steve Taylor is pretty desperate 😉
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Re: Teams for Brighton

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:30 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:29 am
I know we're struggling but recalling Steve Taylor is pretty desperate 😉
:D At least play him up front
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Re: Teams for Brighton

Post by ClaretPete001 » Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:48 pm

You have two choices on is the one in the OP. Where you use Brownhill as the number 10 instead of Amdouni and Odobert breaking the lines through the centre and arriving late in the box. This is the team I would have played from the start with a midfield 3. I thought Brownhill did that ok last season and for the part of the season was probably the best player in the Championship. Healthy goal tally as well.

Albeit quite a few have now decided he is sh*te.

Muric
Assignon Delcroix Taylor
Berge Cullen
JBL Brownhill Odobert
Foster

Or you play with two wide quick wingers getting behind the defence with Foster and Fofana running the channels

Muric
Assignon Delcroix Steve Taylor
JBL Berge Cullen Odobert
Foster Fofana

VK will probably play something else and lose, and I will criticise him again and others can say he is a misunderstood progressive genius who will walk the Championship etc.

A season of being a hamster on a wheel is fun as well.....erm...well maybe not.

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Re: Teams for Brighton

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:49 pm

Muric
Assignon El Dakiel Esteve Taylor
JBL Berge Cullen Odebert
Fofana Rodriguez

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Post by blatherwickstattoos » Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:50 pm

Berge looked our best defender second half, stick him in there. Nothing to lose have we. Brownhill comes in and please please please stop playing odabert in the 10 and foster out wide it’s useless
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Re: Teams for Brighton

Post by equinox » Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:55 pm

Wherever you played Berge he'd be our best player tbf.

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Post by jlup1980 » Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:56 pm

We've looked better with Muric in goal so it would be harsh to drop him after one mistake. I'm question what we're getting from playing Foster and Fofana. Fofana won't be here next season and hasn't been brilliant in recent games.

Muric
Assignon Ekdal Esteve Taylor
Cullen Berge
Vitinho Odobert JBL
Foster

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Post by warksclaret » Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:56 pm

Muric

Assignon Esteve Delcroix Taylor

Brownhill Cullen Berge

Odobert Foster Larsen


Retain Esteve -he will be our best defender by Christmas. Bring Brownhill back into a 3 , but he becomes the more advanced. Odobert back on wing, and Fofana to come on early second half

No fannying about please Vinnie. We've had enough this season

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:16 pm

I don’t mind the idea of bringing Brownhill in as the advanced midfielder - purely for his energy and pressing further up the field. He hasn’t got the technical ability to play there as an attacking threat but thickening up the midfield makes sense.

This would then allow you to try and play an attacking three further up the pitch. Odobert and Foster being two of the three.

Personally I wouldn’t like to see Assignon pull a Burnley shirt on again. Complete liability.

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Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:33 pm

Ekdal for O'Shea is the obvious one and put Benson wide right instead of Foster. Leave out Fofana and play Foster as a central striker, because that's what he is. If you choose to keep Fofana, then Foster misses out. It all seems pretty straightforward to me, but I'm sure VK will choose to blindside everyone with his selection, positions and tactics and Craig Bellamy will say "yeah, great idea boss", when he should be saying "**** no!"

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Post by claretspice » Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:44 pm

I wouldn't guarantee OShea will be suspended. I read we were likely to appeal, and likely to win an appeal. If he's available he plays.

I'd drop Assignon and play Vitinho. I've not been that impressed with Assignon after his debut. I'd bring in Brownhill as the advances midfielder, play Odobert off the left and play JBL from the right, with Foster the lone striker.

Muric's error on Saturday was a shocker but hopefully he's learned from it and just as Trafford wasn't hung out to dry after he made mistakes, I'm fully expecting Muric to be backed, and rightly so.

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Re: Teams for Brighton

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:02 pm

Just play players in their correct positions is all I am asking

…………….Muric

Assignon O’Shea. Esteve. Taylor

….. ….. …… Cork

Benson. Cullen. Berge. Odobert


…………. …….. Foster


Fofana has been poor last two games so unless he has a must play clause just put Lyle back where he should be.

Cork and benson have as much chance as going to the moon than playing with VK this season but I’d give them a game, can’t hurt can it?

Cork would be good in the Alexander role I feel , use his range of passing to give it to someone faster.

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Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:06 pm

Would actually start JBL on left and bring Odo on in his place when he tires.

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Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:11 pm

Muric
Vitinho Ekdal Esteve Taylor
Benson Berge Cullen Odobert
Foster Fofana

Bring Brownhill and JBG on to shore things up once we’re 3 up

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Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:50 pm

Since we are going down, I hope it's 11 players who we think are likely to be here next season. Pointless playing the likes of Assignon and Fofana if they are unlikely to kick all ball in the championship for us.

That being said, I don't know who will be here next season. Hopefully VK has some idea - not that he would subscribe to this view.

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Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:55 pm

Think Vinny could still do a job at centre back give O’Shea a rest.

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Post by KlyBfc » Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:11 pm

If he knows who he’s likely to have next season then they would be the ones I’d be playing.

As I have no clue who is likely to be with us or not, I’d play:

Muric

Vitinho (Toin Coss as all as bad as each other ) Esteve Taylor

Berge Cullen
Brownhill

Benson foster. JBL

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Re: Teams for Brighton

Post by claretgimmer » Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:26 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:02 pm
Just play players in their correct positions is all I am asking

…………….Muric

Assignon O’Shea. Esteve. Taylor

….. ….. …… Cork

Benson. Cullen. Berge. Odobert


…………. …….. Foster


Fofana has been poor last two games so unless he has a must play clause just put Lyle back where he should be.

Cork and benson have as much chance as going to the moon than playing with VK this season but I’d give them a game, can’t hurt can it?

Cork would be good in the Alexander role I feel , use his range of passing to give it to someone faster.
Been saying that re Cork in the Alexander role for a while and agree re Benson, we`re going to need him next season so we need him to feel part of the team as I don`t believe he does at the moment and for me he is still a better attacking option than Larsen but Assignon would have to up his game.

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Post by ksrclaret » Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:46 pm

Muric

Vitinho — Ekdal — Esteve — Taylor

JBG — Cullen — Berge — Larsen

Odobert — Foster

Brighton carry a big threat down their left with their LB Estupinan who sees a lot of the ball and combines well with one of their wingers. For that reason I’d play JBG in front of Vitinho to help defend that flank, and I’d like to see Odobert making runs into the space behind their LB from the number 10 position.

If we line up with Vitinho or Assignon supported only by an out of position Foster I think we’ll get murdered down that side.

I understand the call for Odobert to go back to LW but I think Larsen’s been okay there recently and I think Odobert is also doing okay playing more centrally.

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Post by Nonayforever » Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:20 pm

I'm sure VK reads this on a Friday night and thinks " I'm not going to let a mere fan pre-empt me on team selection" so therefore picks a team or formation that no one has mentioned.

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Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:31 pm

claretgimmer wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:26 pm
Been saying that re Cork in the Alexander role for a while and agree re Benson, we`re going to need him next season so we need him to feel part of the team as I don`t believe he does at the moment and for me he is still a better attacking option than Larsen but Assignon would have to up his game.
Gives him loads of time to pick a pass too. I thought he played steady away when he came on against spurs early season. Gives him chance to get his head up and play an easy ball. Let’s Berge get forward more instead of playing in a back five :shock:

Also less pressure on Muric to do all of that job


If he plays foster on right wing again he needs his head examining.

Vitinho should be right wing sub as he’s so bloody random but that can be a good thing

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Re: Teams for Brighton

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:34 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:20 pm
I'm sure VK reads this on a Friday night and thinks " I'm not going to let a mere fan pre-empt me on team selection" so therefore picks a team or formation that no one has mentioned.
Should do what Dyche did and read it , might get us back into Europe :lol:

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Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:36 pm

How Benson hasn’t yet got into this team is just insane.

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Post by boatshed bill » Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:19 pm

Are we committed to playing Fofana if he's fit?

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Post by what_no_pies » Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:21 pm

Play everyone in their wrong positions.
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Post by superdimitri » Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:38 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:46 pm
Muric

Vitinho — Ekdal — Esteve — Taylor

JBG — Cullen — Berge — Larsen

Odobert — Foster

Brighton carry a big threat down their left with their LB Estupinan who sees a lot of the ball and combines well with one of their wingers. For that reason I’d play JBG in front of Vitinho to help defend that flank, and I’d like to see Odobert making runs into the space behind their LB from the number 10 position.

If we line up with Vitinho or Assignon supported only by an out of position Foster I think we’ll get murdered down that side.

I understand the call for Odobert to go back to LW but I think Larsen’s been okay there recently and I think Odobert is also doing okay playing more centrally.
I always see the wings in games as a seesaw between teams.If you have good enough attacking players and you play well enough you can peg back your opponent so they are less effective. This works great if you're up against a full back who can't defend and a winger that doesn't track back.

If you opt to go defensive you can nullify their attacking threat, but it can be just as dangerous as the attacking strategy because you can get pegged back and concede anyway.

Kompany has 99% of the time opted to attack instead of defend the opposition which is probably why we have had some hidings this year vs top sides like Arsenal.

But equally toward the end with Dyche you could see it was no longer possible to nick 1-0 wins like we used too, doing the opposite so I really think taking your game to the opposition is the way to go.

As disappointing as this season has been we have at least had a go attacking teams and we've been forward thinking. I think that's good for the long term of our players, the club and how we want to play.

Focusing on the opposition is necessary more when we come up against the very best teams maybe but Brighton are no different than Chelsea and Wolves and we can come out with a win.

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Post by CoolClaret » Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:42 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:48 pm
You have two choices on is the one in the OP. Where you use Brownhill as the number 10 instead of Amdouni and Odobert breaking the lines through the centre and arriving late in the box. This is the team I would have played from the start with a midfield 3. I thought Brownhill did that ok last season and for the part of the season was probably the best player in the Championship. Healthy goal tally as well.

Albeit quite a few have now decided he is sh*te.

Muric
Assignon Delcroix Taylor
Berge Cullen
JBL Brownhill Odobert
Foster
That's the sort of system that I thought we'd have lined up in this year - especially in the first few games with a two holding midfielders and Brownhill pressing from the front, being quick in transition and looking to counter at pace.

Alas we ended up actually trying to be even more expansive than we were the season before and got wasted in doing so.

As for the team for the weekend? Meh. Whoever's playing next season.

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Post by Tackler49 » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:23 pm

[quote=Superjohnnyfrancis
How Benson hasn’t yet got into this team is just insane.

The reason VK doesn’t pick Benson is he clearly has no faith in him and that’s a slap in the face for him after last season, he will be gone at the end
at the end of the season why should he show VK any loyalty

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Re: Teams for Brighton

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:54 pm

Vigouroux
Assignon, Al Dakhil, Esteve, Taylor,
Vitinho, Cullen, Berge, Odobert,
Foster, Rodriguez.

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Re: Teams for Brighton

Post by ClaretinJapan » Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:51 am

     Al Dakhil

Brownhill Fofana Foster Odobert

Taylor Esteve Rodriguez

Delcroix

Cullen

Muric

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Post by burnley007 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:55 am

ClaretinJapan wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:51 am
     Al Dakhil

Brownhill Fofana Foster Odobert

Taylor Esteve Rodriguez

Delcroix

Cullen

Muric

I can cope with Muric up front, but I'm not keen on Ameen in goal.

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:01 am

Tackler49 wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:23 pm
[quote=Superjohnnyfrancis
How Benson hasn’t yet got into this team is just insane.

The reason VK doesn’t pick Benson is he clearly has no faith in him and that’s a slap in the face for him after last season, he will be gone at the end
at the end of the season why should he show VK any loyalty
Benson only started 14 games last season for us with another 19 coming off the bench. I think VK had made his mind up about him and Zaroury long before we started this season, deciding neither were good enough or in his plans. Both signed new contracts last summer but that had to be because they triggered the deals with the promotion.

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Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:04 am

Muric
Vit AAD Esteve Taylor
Benson JBG Cullen Berge JBL
Foster

Mostly trying to find an 11 who would likely be here next season, although I am living in hope we keep JBL, Muric and Berge. Pointless continuing to develop the likes of Assignon and Fofana.

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Re: Teams for Brighton

Post by BleedingClaret » Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:49 am

………………. Muric. ……………..
Assignon Ekdal Esteve Taylor
…..….…. Brownhill …………….
JBL ……… Cullen …. Odebert
…………….. Berge …………….…
……………… Foster ………………

Foster & Fofana do a half each
It doesn’t work with both on and Foster hasn’t the legs for a full match at present

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