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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:11 pm

What an utter farce again. Berge having to play cb Muric does it again. Foster is currently the worst player in a Burnley shirt. We replace BL with Tresor !!! I could go on and on but why. Something is big time wrong in our club. Don’t know what it is but it is like a cancer spreading through the whole club. Players ? Management ? Owners ? Who knows but it is destroying us
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Moorite » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:11 pm

Pickles wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:54 pm
That's a great save from Muric in all fairness.
Equivalent to buying your wife flowers after cheating on her
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:12 pm

Absolutely indefensible by Muric.

I could forgive his error last week because he normally sets up our attacks with his distribution, but he was utterly dreadful in all areas today.

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by whiffa » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:12 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:09 pm
No ****** off , we have 2 keepers both as bad as each other
We don't though. We have two keepers who aren't good enough for the Premier League. But Muric is still better than Trafford and I've explained why I think so. You can quote me saying "The grass is blue" next if you like, it equally won't make sense. Enjoy the rest of your afternoon.

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:14 pm

Paddy1882 wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:11 pm
Might get pellets for this but I thought we were very good today against a more that decent Brighton side, yes we missed chances and conceded chances but on the whole I thought we looked good. Also Muric is twice the keeper Trafford is but he’s always had a clanger in him.
I agree.

We should have been 2-0 up at half time and ultimately shot ourselves in the foot.

Shame but it's the story of our season.
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:14 pm

No defense for Muric from me. My wife would have stopped that in her high heels !!!!👠

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Casper2 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:15 pm

whiffa wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:12 pm
We don't though. We have two keepers who aren't good enough for the Premier League. But Muric is still better than Trafford and I've explained why I think so. You can quote me saying "The grass is blue" next if you like, it equally won't make sense. Enjoy the rest of your afternoon.
Enjoy

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by jos » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:16 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:14 pm
No defense for Muric from me. My wife would have stopped that in her high heels !!!!👠
Is she available for the next game?
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by NewClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:16 pm

Even the most ardent Muric fan, which I am, cannot defend that.

Muric has cost us 3 points in the last 2 games and if you’ve slagged Trafford off this season you have to also accept Muric’ failings.
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by whiffa » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:16 pm

jos wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:16 pm
Is she available for the next game?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:17 pm

Let’s not let another Muric moment distract from the fact that we were denied one of the most obvious penalties of the season.
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by gcsclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:17 pm

Muric’s howlers in the last two games have cost us four points and any realistic chance of staying up.

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:18 pm

We need 1 new keeper , a centre half , 2 wingers , striker, left back , right back . Absolutely shocking team of disjointed footballers

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:18 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:16 pm
Even the most ardent Muric fan, which I am, cannot defend that.

Muric has cost us 3 points in the last 2 games and if you’ve slagged Trafford off this season you have to also accept Muric’ failings.
But not your maths

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:18 pm

gcsclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:17 pm
Muric’s howlers in the last two games have cost us four points
Yes
gcsclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:17 pm
and any realistic chance of staying up.
Nah - that was done August-November.

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Casper2 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:19 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:16 pm
Even the most ardent Muric fan, which I am, cannot defend that.

Muric has cost us 3 points in the last 2 games and if you’ve slagged Trafford off this season you have to also accept Muric’ failings.
Apparently you can defend it

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by oswyclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:20 pm

Bigbopper wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:05 pm
Try playing without a goalkeeper can it be much worse
The outcome would still be the same though!!!

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by NewClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:20 pm

gcsclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:17 pm
Muric’s howlers in the last two games have cost us four points and any realistic chance of staying up.
3, I think, but anyone slagging Trafford has had a mare today because he hasn’t made an error as bad as Muric’s in the last two games. No doubt about it.

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by KefkaClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:20 pm

Quite the decision about who to start against Sheffield, do you start Trafford who gets absolutely bullied in crosses and corners or do you go for Muric despite his last two cock-ups?

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by roperclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:20 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:12 pm
Absolutely indefensible by Muric.

I could forgive his error last week because he normally sets up our attacks with his distribution, but he was utterly dreadful in all areas today.
No he wasn’t. He was good at catching corners

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by watsonsclarets » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:21 pm

Moneyball has run it cause for me would rather have a system and 11 players who are good on both sides of the ball. It has not been good enough at all the system recruitment and the so-called style.

We are a club about balance sheets rather than clean sheets.

Yes, we sell one or two for profit but we have been sold some right **** and no I know we can't sign the best but all the stuff about "worst we will play" and all doesn't sit well.

Overall we are miles out of our depth we have changed our style from last season and achieved very little.
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by NewClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:22 pm

LincsWoldsClaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:18 pm
But not your maths
1 vs Everton.

2 today.

Feel differently?

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by oswyclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:22 pm

Its fate..simple as...just not meant to be...jinxed!!

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Belgianclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:22 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:07 pm
I was absolutely raging at this. He hasnt been fit enough for months, its an absolute disgrace for a Premier League footballer to be so unfit. Especially one who the club has been very patient with this season. What on earth is he doing in training?
I’ll tell you this: for me most of the team are not fit enough. Last 15 mins we were knackered

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:24 pm

Been massive on muric being picked from game one this season but that mistake is indefensible it’s an absolute shocker.

Larsen miss in the first half is also a shocker has to score.

Foster and fofana awful, especially foster today, looked like the Foster of last season today.

Brownhill with great energy when he came on
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by burnleymik » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:24 pm

So frustrating because Muric makes us play quicker, which helps us and he how dominates his box aerially, but his mistakes are just ridiculous.

The alternative is Trafford, who cannot dominate his box and and makes us worse at set pieces. That said he isn't as suicidal or calamitous as Muric.

We are a better side when Muric plays IMO, but mistakes like that have cost us too much.
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by basil6345789 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:26 pm

Buggers Muddle Part II

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by NewClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:27 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:24 pm
Been massive on muric being picked from game one this season but that mistake is indefensible it’s an absolute shocker.

Larsen miss in the first half is also a shocker has to score.

Foster and fofana awful, especially foster today, looked like the Foster of last season today.

Brownhill with great energy when he came on
Agree with all of this
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:29 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:24 pm
Been massive on muric being picked from game one this season but that mistake is indefensible it’s an absolute shocker.

Larsen miss in the first half is also a shocker has to score.

Foster and fofana awful, especially foster today, looked like the Foster of last season today.

Brownhill with great energy when he came on
Let’s face it, the whole team is poor.

I know you’re a fan of Muric but the last two games are exactly why Muric is never ever going to make it at this level. He is just a calamity waiting to happen.

Foster is a difficult one I still don’t think he’s playing his best position, we have shoe horned Fofana in and it’s detrimental to our set up. Even though he is probably our best goal
Scoring threat.
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by warksclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:29 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:27 pm
Agree with all of this
Why on earth we dont play 3 in midfield with Brownhill joining the other two, rather have Brownhill in than both Fofana and Foster together

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Pickles » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:29 pm

Some over the top comments on here, understandable though after the missed sitters and Muric's mistake. It's possible to say he made a shocking, gutting mistake today and against Everton which have lost us points, but to also be rational enough to say he's our best option and is better suited to how we play.
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:29 pm

As much as kompany decision making hasn’t been great, the two muric errors are just a story that it’s not our Season.

I know he’s not fit but Ekdal is twice the defender O’Shea is

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by NL Claret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:30 pm

Only skimmed through the posts but saw Trafford mentioned a few times, I didn't think he played, unused sub.

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:30 pm

Mistakes or not since Muric has come in we’ve won 6 points in five games.


Over a season that averages out to 45.6 points , the cock up was not playing him from the start and the continuation of playing other players out of position or not playing them at all for reasons unknown.

Bensons another one that should be starting.

I’ts a shame those two mistakes happened but let’s have some balance please.
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Belgianclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:30 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:20 pm
3, I think, but anyone slagging Trafford has had a mare today because he hasn’t made an error as bad as Muric’s in the last two games. No doubt about it.
I think they both just about cost us as many points this season after today
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:32 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:22 pm
1 vs Everton.

2 today.

Feel differently?
Yes -
It was 3 today

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:32 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:29 pm
Let’s face it, the whole team is poor.

I know you’re a fan of Muric but the last two games are exactly why Muric is never ever going to make it at this level. He is just a calamity waiting to happen.

Foster is a difficult one I still don’t think he’s playing his best position, we have shoe horned Fofana in and it’s detrimental to our set up. Even though he is probably our best goal
Scoring threat.
No defending the muric error at all, you can’t. I would still have him in over Trafford which poses bigger questions with recruitment

I can’t workout playing foster wide when it looked like we had finally got our premier league number 9, fofana is cute on the ball, odobert cutting in on his weak foot to, team selections again

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:33 pm

take the absolute sitters we missed and the Muric mistake doesn't happen or really matter - every single player is culpable this season not just the two keepers.
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:33 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:30 pm
Mistakes or not since Muric has come in we’ve won 6 points in five games.


Over a season that averages out to 45.6 points , the cock up was not playing him from the start and the continuation of playing other players out of position or not playing them at all for reasons unknown.



Bensons another one that should be starting.

I’ts a shame those two mistakes happened but let’s have some balance please.
There are mistakes and there are mistakes. The two that Muric has made in the last two games have been worse than any Trafford made at any point during the season.

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:35 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:29 pm
Why on earth we dont play 3 in midfield with Brownhill joining the other two, rather have Brownhill in than both Fofana and Foster together
That would be a sensible/pragmatic decision

Kompany's thinking shows no semblance of either
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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:35 pm

All that money spent on attackers and the first sub of the game when you need a goal is jay rod, nothing against jay rod but he should not be seen as the game changer in the premier league

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Goliath » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:37 pm

Just out of interest do we usually play pass backs inbetween our own goal posts. Now I've had time to calm down, I'm not sure we can be that angry with Muric. It's slipped under his foot which can happen, but when it's passed at pace towards your own goal it's an accident waiting to happen.

Today's goal
Everton goal
Clear foul not given v Luton

That's at least another 4 to 6 points we very probably would have got. That's ignoring any other daft errors or refereeing mistakes over the season. We really could and probably should have been safe this season. I backed kompany all the way through but you do have to wonder whether a change of manager in January would have us got us at least an extra 6 points.

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by matttheclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:37 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:30 pm
Mistakes or not since Muric has come in we’ve won 6 points in five games.


Over a season that averages out to 45.6 points , the cock up was not playing him from the start and the continuation of playing other players out of position or not playing them at all for reasons unknown.

Bensons another one that should be starting.

I’ts a shame those two mistakes happened but let’s have some balance please.
I'm a Muric fan but his two errors in the last two games have been horrendous, Trafford (who I've been critical of) would have been slated for those mistakes.

I think right now he's probably a better keeper than Trafford but ultimately he's made two mistakes way worse than anything we've seen this season

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:39 pm

Odobert on the right is pants. JBL has played both wings and been fine in either. So why not play Odobert on the left, where he is far more comfortable and creates more chances?
Oh yea, VK has a philosophy, “they are all footballers”. Well he got that wrong, the stubborn prick.

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:39 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:33 pm
There are mistakes and there are mistakes. The two that Muric has made in the last two games have been worse than any Trafford made at any point during the season.
agree, as bad as Forfana's two open goal misses we've seen recently - just as costly

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:41 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:16 pm
Even the most ardent Muric fan, which I am, cannot defend that.

Muric has cost us 3 points in the last 2 games and if you’ve slagged Trafford off this season you have to also accept Muric’ failings.
And Verbruggens after his error costing them a goal. The other keeper we wanred

Shows how hard it is for keepers in this league

I can only put it down today to mental pressure. He will never have done that in training. It's unfathomable.

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:42 pm

matttheclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:37 pm
I'm a Muric fan but his two errors in the last two games have been horrendous, Trafford (who I've been critical of) would have been slated for those mistakes.

I think right now he's probably a better keeper than Trafford but ultimately he's made two mistakes way worse than anything we've seen this season
Being lobbed from the half way line is worst I would say.

Anyway its not about that, fine slate the guy but we wouldn’t be on the points we have without him in the nets and that’s a fact.

Berge shouldn’t be passing into the goal either but that’s on Kompany and his tactics. O’Shea nearly scored an og doing that also.

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:43 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:29 pm
Why on earth we dont play 3 in midfield with Brownhill joining the other two, rather have Brownhill in than both Fofana and Foster together
I thought this was meant to be the plan from the start.

Two sitting midfielders with Brownhill ratting from the front - just like we did to start the Champ last season.

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by Goalposts » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:43 pm

In summary. - we missed at least 3 clear cut chances to get ahead and win the game
We are our on worst enemy and gifted a goal as we have done may times this year - regardless of who’s in goal
We are starting to look a better side - but as VK has said it takes times to gel.
Berge - brownhill - gudmenson - Taylor - roberts - jayrod - cork. All gone next year
Another rebuild next year - who stays and goes determines the size of the challenge.

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Re: Burnley vs brighton.

Post by NL Claret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:44 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:41 pm
And Verbruggens after his error costing them a goal. The other keeper we wanred

Shows how hard it is for keepers in this league

I can only put it down today to mental pressure. He will never have done that in training. It's unfathomable.
BHA defender more at fault than the keeper.

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