We must be the only club in the football league who still boo this. It’s pathetic, embarrassing and awkward for fans, players and staff.

I genuinely didn't hear any today whereas I did on previous occasions.

helmclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:21 pm

We must be the only club in the football league who still boo this. It’s pathetic, embarrassing and awkward for fans, players and staff.

Fortunately I only heard clapping where we were apart from a couple of jeers … which soon stopped

helmclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:21 pm

We must be the only club in the football league who still boo this. It’s pathetic, embarrassing and awkward for fans, players and staff.

Yup, not as bad as usual but perhaps a lot of them stopped going on now we are ****

I think there will be people at most clubs that will boo it.
I dont agree with it but wouldn't boo it.
I dont agree with racism

It's just another w@nky thing that means little.

Surprised there was no minutes silence for OJ.

Definitely some in the Longside upper.

Ben Mee spoke really eloquently about why they do it. Turf Moor should be a place where everyone feels welcome.

helmclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:27 pm

Definitely some in the Longside upper.

Ben Mee spoke really eloquently about why they do it. Turf Moor should be a place where everyone feels welcome.

Whilst I agree to a degree, I dont want to feel "Welcome" at Ewood or Deepdale.

I think not feeling welcome due to the colour of your skin is a bit different to not feeling welcome because you support the visiting team.

quoonbeatz wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:33 pm

I think not feeling welcome due to the colour of your skin is a bit different to not feeling welcome because you support the visiting team.

Would agree with that.

Nobody booed or clapped where we were.

It doesn't do much for anything.

helmclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:21 pm

We must be the only club in the football league who still boo this. It’s pathetic, embarrassing and awkward for fans, players and staff.

More or less embarrassing than taking it? I wouldn't boo it myself, but post Qatar and the Saudi money grab I'm afraid signalling virtue by a group so morally bankrupt doesn't carry much weight.

Didn’t hear any booing at all.

I thought they'd scrapped the knee thing, why was it back today?

Its embarrassing “the knee” is still in the game

HahaYeah wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:25 pm

Surprised there was no minutes silence for OJ.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:43 pm

Didn’t hear any booing at all.

No we didn't. It's just thiese righteous types that have to look for something. Hoping they hear a boo. Its pathetic.

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:07 pm

so.... was it actually for OJ? I remember the trial back then but I really thought he was guilty until he struggled to get his hand in the glove and proved it wasn't him. Maybe we should've all brought a tight glove with us to wave in the air during the knee ceremony.

Stayingup wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:12 pm

No we didn't. It's just thiese righteous types that have to look for something. Hoping they hear a boo. Its pathetic.

Nah, there was plenty.

Stayingup wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:12 pm

No we didn't. It's just thiese righteous types that have to look for something. Hoping they hear a boo. Its pathetic.

Think it’s that we didn’t lose they have to find something else.

Or just that people booed, which they definitely did and some of it was coming from the JMU where I was sat.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:17 pm

Or just that people booed, which they definitely did and some of it was coming from the JMU where I was sat.

I’m in the Longside Lower, and what I could hear was from the CFS.

I don't agree and wouldn't boo but respect that people have a different opinion. They have every right to express their opinion by booing.

As for the knee it's all just become a bit pointless, I don't even notice it happening anymore.

I boo.
I pay to see a football match.
I don't pay to be brainwashed.

Brainwashed?

helmclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:21 pm

We must be the only club in the football league who still boo this. It’s pathetic, embarrassing and awkward for fans, players and staff.

Hardly any booing at all. A few dozen people at best. Where were you in the ground to hear it?

I think the whole thing is daft, but I wouldn't boo it.

There was booing in the North Stand Upper, near the press box.

Why shouldn’t people boo?

If you don’t agree with such nonsense then you are entitled to boo. Freedom of speech/expression

I’ve already said, Longside upper.

This thread won't last long. Like it or not it has connotations with BLM from when people held up the logo while taking the knee, and also the footballers wore the shirts with this logo and had the BLM banner on sky sports. Now we know it was a very militant movement and there were some very unscrupulous characters involved with managing the finances, I've not heard of one thing that money was used in terms of helping people. Maybe that explains the booing?

I've said countless times on here before if the players just stand together shoulder to shoulder next to a banner of kick racism out, I'm willing to bet no one would boo.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:31 pm

Why shouldn’t people boo?

If you don’t agree with such nonsense then you are entitled to boo. Freedom of speech/expression

What are you booing?

Well Black Lives Matter certainly turned out to be a good honest organization !!
I don’t boo but I certainly would not kneel

helmclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:31 pm

What are you booing?

The football establishment adopting and pushing a gesture from a militant group.

helmclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:31 pm

What are you booing?

What are you kneeling for?

I’m not, I stay quiet. Just don’t understand the booing.

helmclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:31 pm

I’ve already said, Longside upper.

Yes you said you heard it from the Longside upper. Sorry I didn’t realise you were in the same stand.
I was in the Bob Lord and only heard it very faintly and it sounded like it was only a few people.

Not hard to see why Burnley has the reputation it does with people on here so against an anti-racism gesture. The mental gymnastics folk go through to justify it is funny though. Just admit you’re racist, it’s fine nowadays!

helmclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:38 pm

I’m not, I stay quiet. Just don’t understand the booing.

Fair enough but it’s pretentious twaddle. If I go to a gig, or a farmers market or the cinema, nobody takes the knee to signal inclusion before the main event starts. People just go for the event. Rascist tw@ts are rascist tw@ts of whatvever race. You ain’t going to change them by signalling. A pig is a pig. It doesn’t care what you call it.

I think he/they said they was booing it because they don't agree with the nonsense.
If somebody feels that something is nonsensical then they should probably have the right to express their opinion in a non violent manner. I suppose if it was a more organised form of non agreeance a group of people could have started a chant someting like "We don't agree with that, weee dooon't agree with that" to the tune of "You're support is f*ckin shi*t.."etc

its idiotic to expect a huge body of fans to adhere to a campaign foisted upon them. we all have individual opinions, we all see how things are panning out through the news networks and social media outlets. It should not be expected that somehow as a mass we will coalesce into one unified group simply because some group or individuals want to organise a rallying point for a political issue. The whole BLM issue has had numerous critics for a myriad of reasons. As with other campaigns it can be divisive. I for one think these sort of things should be kept well away from sport.

claret2018 wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:41 pm

Not hard to see why Burnley has the reputation it does with people on here so against an anti-racism gesture. The mental gymnastics folk go through to justify it is funny though. Just admit you’re racist, it’s fine nowadays!

An unjust reputation in my opinion.

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:59 pm

its idiotic to expect a huge body of fans to adhere to a campaign foisted upon them. we all have individual opinions, we all see how things are panning out through the news networks and social media outlets. It should not be expected that somehow as a mass we will coalesce into one unified group simply because some group or individuals want to organise a rallying point for a political issue. The whole BLM issue has had numerous critics for a myriad of reasons. As with other campaigns it can be divisive. I for one think these sort of things should be kept well away from sport.

The above is spot on

If players are going to make overt political gestures they need to accept the fans also have a right to voice their disapproval.

It's clear as day why fans find it distasteful for the players to be making a BLM gesture. Claiming it isn't anything to do with BLM is disingenuous and everybody knows the gesture was brought in to support BLM. The PFA issued a press release saying this was the case.

The easiest way to stop the booing is for the FA and PDA to stop making their BLM gesture.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:27 pm

The easiest way to stop the booing is for the FA and PDA to stop making their BLM gesture.

i broadly agree though i suspect it wouldn't be so easy.

how to censure it effectively without a backlash?

dougcollins wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:16 pm

Nah, there was plenty.

Like I said WE didn't hear any. So where was this plenty?

yTib wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:34 pm

i broadly agree though i suspect it wouldn't be so easy.

how to censure it effectively without a backlash?

Easiest thing would be to just stop doing it and go back to promoting Kick it Out and Say No To Racism.

Stayingup wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:37 pm

Like I said WE didn't hear any. So where was this plenty?

Definitely wasn’t plenty. No more than a couple of dozen.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:39 pm

Easiest thing would be to just stop doing it and go back to promoting Kick it Out and Say No To Racism.

i hope tongue firmly in cheek there rowls.

yTib wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:46 pm

i hope tongue firmly in cheek there rowls.

Why? Surely that's perfectly reasonable?