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Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:03 pm
by Vegas Claret
by hook or by crook we have to try our best to keep him regardless of what division we are in, comfortably the best player on the pitch today

Oh yeah, what a win that is !!!!

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:07 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
I know the level of opposition wasn’t great but he absolutely dominated today

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:09 pm
by Goliath
He shouldn't be playing in the Championship. He has done that already, time for him to go to a team that plays in Europe before it passes him by. He's up there with Defour in terms of ability for me.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:10 pm
by Belgianclaret
Best transfer by a long mile

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:12 pm
by Murger
MoM today.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:14 pm
by Pickles
Streets, avenues, roads and oceans ahead of anyone else on the pitch today. A phenomenal showing.

I'd be surprised if he fancies another season in the Championship, at the age he's at and after his performances in the Premier League this season.

Fulham, Brighton, Wolves and West Ham should all be looking at him.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:14 pm
by ISpeds00
Strolled around their shite players with ease

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:15 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
They way Berge and Cullen compliment each other, it almost wouldn’t be fair them playing together in the champ

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:16 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
You could tell how much Berge was dominating the game the fact that sheff united fans stopped booing him hahaha

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:24 pm
by ClaretOfMancunia
How much did we pay for him?

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:26 pm
by Jakubs Tash
Best player on the pitch….again.

Also thought we looked a much better unit when Brownhill came on and played as a pressing number 10. And then JBG gave us even more balance/ability when he came on.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:36 pm
by ClaretOfMancunia
ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:24 pm
How much did we pay for him?
Just looked it up. £12M. Looks a bargain now..

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:41 pm
by IanMcL
Mr Positive Tidy

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:41 pm
by BurnleyFC
I’ve resigned myself to losing him.

He’s simply too good for the Championship.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:47 pm
by spt_claret
Goliath wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:09 pm
He shouldn't be playing in the Championship. He has done that already, time for him to go to a team that plays in Europe before it passes him by. He's up there with Defour in terms of ability for me.
Way behind Defour on technique and vision, but ahead on physicality and robustness.

Berge, Defour, and a prime Cork would be some midfield trio.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:13 pm
by ksrclaret
Would be brilliant if we could keep him next season.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:17 pm
by Safron
He's a fantastic player, if he would shoot more and score goals he wouldn't be at Burnley 😃

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:19 pm
by jedi_master
I am confident he will give us one year to try and get back - he did Sheff Utd. I think he’s a really classy player but he’s not a headline grabber and I’m not sure he’s as well valued elsewhere as by us. We might fly by night with him in the transfer market - here’s hoping.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:33 pm
by Goliath
jedi_master wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:19 pm
I am confident he will give us one year to try and get back - he did Sheff Utd. I think he’s a really classy player but he’s not a headline grabber and I’m not sure he’s as well valued elsewhere as by us. We might fly by night with him in the transfer market - here’s hoping.
I'd question his ambition if he did stay. If he hadn't already wasted a year at championship level then fair enough but as he's already done it once with Sheff Utd it would be an absolute waste of a year for him.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:33 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Safron wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:17 pm
He's a fantastic player, if he would shoot more and score goals he wouldn't be at Burnley 😃
My only black mark against him is how often he carries the ball to about 25yds out and he is still looking for the pass. Have a do lad, chance your luck.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:05 pm
by equinox
Just needs an 'r' for me.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:40 pm
by MrTechno
Player of the season, easily

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:51 pm
by NottsClaret
Playing in his slippers today, didn’t break sweat and was on another level to everyone else on the pitch.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:53 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
When I started watching Burnley Paul cook and lenny John rose were the players in the middle so I can’t speak for previous with the likes of Dobson but Berge is the best midfielder I’ve ever seen at Burnley, followed closely by Defour. Jack cork in his two spells has also been excellent and before his knee injury I really enjoyed watching the way Chris McCann drove with the ball.

But Berge is a Rolls Royce

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:57 pm
by quoonbeatz
He's nowhere near Defour but he's a very different type of player so it doesn't really matter. He's the best we've had since Defour, that's for sure.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:09 pm
by Burnleyareback2
I guess he could be the 1st to go if we go down. Agree with the above, an actual rolls Royce but we could do with a hard man next to him.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:36 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
quoonbeatz wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:57 pm
He's nowhere near Defour but he's a very different type of player so it doesn't really matter. He's the best we've had since Defour, that's for sure.
A trio of cork and Defour from the 17/18 season with the berge of this season would be an unbelievable midfield

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:36 pm
by CoolClaret
Together with Cullen and Brownhill in front of them is how our midfield should have been all year.

If we go down and retain that as a midfield three we could quite possibly achieve even more than the 101 points that we did last season.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:58 pm
by Juan Tanamera
If Up The Clarets are to be believed the likes of Odobert, Amdouni, Foster and Berge will be on their way at the end of the season.
Why?

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:13 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
Rolls Royce of a player, always looks to have time, but like the others it depends on us getting suitable offers, which for him needs to be £20m.

All depends what clauses are in the contract of course.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:16 pm
by CoolClaret
I'd prefer to sell some of the others at cut price deals and keep Berge in all honesty, if push came to shove.

So much harder to get quality centre mids in and to replace them.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:48 pm
by longsidetrumpet
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:53 pm
When I started watching Burnley Paul cook and lenny John rose were the players in the middle so I can’t speak for previous with the likes of Dobson but Berge is the best midfielder I’ve ever seen at Burnley, followed closely by Defour. Jack cork in his two spells has also been excellent and before his knee injury I really enjoyed watching the way Chris McCann drove with the ball.

But Berge is a Rolls Royce
You should have seen Dobbo. Looks like you know your midfielders, the word classy was made for Dobson. An integral part of the best Burnley team I saw. My first season was the 59-60 title season but too young to really appreciate that team

Re: Berge

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:04 am
by Iloveyoubrady
Berge is absolute class. Think he’s massively underrated - I also thought he was average when he was at Sheffield. Now I realise he’s a classy modern day centre midfielder. He won’t score or assist much, but he’s crucial to our play with his passing, excellent press avoidance and surprisingly good athleticism in defence.

He does fly under the radar a little. Maybe we could try for a season in the championship as he suits our style to a tee. However, I do think the guy deserves to play premier league football - and perhaps for a more established mid table side.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:07 am
by Newchurch Claret
Goliath wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:09 pm
He shouldn't be playing in the Championship. He has done that already, time for him to go to a team that plays in Europe before it passes him by. He's up there with Defour in terms of ability for me.
Steady on! Defour was on another level. 🙌🏼

Re: Berge

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:22 am
by NewClaret
Tricky Trevor wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:33 pm
My only black mark against him is how often he carries the ball to about 25yds out and he is still looking for the pass. Have a do lad, chance your luck.
It’s a simple percentages thing there. The chances of scoring outside the box are so much lowe than inside it. Any good coach would tell him to pass if there’s one on inside the box. He’s taking the sensible decision more often than not.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:32 am
by NewClaret
If we really have any intention to establish ourselves as a premier league team again in future we MUST keep Sander in summer. He’s one of the only few who’s looked premier league class all season.

The posts above about ambition or being deserving of a premier league team I understand but at some point our owners and manager need to be selfish and put BFC’s interests first.

He signed a contract and must’ve known it was far from certain we would stay up. If we can tell Benson he isn’t getting any minutes after the season he had last year we can tell Sander he’s staying on.

We need to be building next years squad around him, Cullen, Muric, Esteve, etc.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:35 am
by CoolClaret
NewClaret wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:32 am
If we really have any intention to establish ourselves as a premier league team again in future we MUST keep Sander in summer. He’s one of the only few who’s looked premier league class all season.

The posts above about ambition or being deserving of a premier league team I understand but at some point our owners and manager need to be selfish and put BFC’s interests first.

He signed a contract and must’ve known it was far from certain we would stay up. If we can tell Benson he isn’t getting any minutes after the season he had last year we can tell Sander he’s staying on.

We need to be building next years squad around him, Cullen, Muric, Esteve, etc.
Totally agree.

It would have to be a stupid offer and also agree on those players to build around. That's the future for the next 3+ years of BFC.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:48 am
by ArmchairDetective
Would almost feel sorry for the lad playing in the championship again next season. But certainly won't complain if he is. Far too good.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:32 am
by blatherwickstattoos
An absolute rolls Royce of a footballer. If we keep him for next season it’s probably the only way we would walk the league. Hes magnificent

Re: Berge

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:50 am
by Quicknick
It would be great to have him for one year in the Championship. Will he want to stay, though?

Re: Berge

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:47 am
by jdrobbo
The Hovercraft!

Sensational

Re: Berge

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:45 am
by NewClaret
Quicknick wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:50 am
It would be great to have him for one year in the Championship. Will he want to stay, though?
Probably not. My point above is more that when players sign contracts they commit to the club for a period. If we wanted to not sign Tresor now for example, we couldn’t just decide ourselves not to bother with a

We’ll no doubt have had players all season that are less than happy with the situation which is part and parcel of professional football.

If Alan and Kompany are serious about developing a squad that can compete at this premier league level he’s one we have to keep. He’s the only one who’s really looked like he belongs here all season. I’d also Muric/Cullen since they came back in, plus Esteve - but they haven’t done it all year like him. Those are the guys we need to bend over backwards to build the squad around and if we need to be a bit selfish to do it, and cut throat elsewhere, it has to be done in my opinion.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:49 am
by taio
NewClaret wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:45 am
Probably not. My point above is more that when players sign contracts they commit to the club for a period. If we wanted to not sign Tresor now for example, we couldn’t just decide ourselves not to bother with a

We’ll no doubt have had players all season that are less than happy with the situation which is part and parcel of professional football.

If Alan and Kompany are serious about developing a squad that can compete at this premier league level he’s one we have to keep. He’s the only one who’s really looked like he belongs here all season. I’d also Muric/Cullen since they came back in, plus Esteve - but they haven’t done it all year like him. Those are the guys we need to bend over backwards to build the squad around and if we need to be a bit selfish to do it, and cut throat elsewhere, it has to be done in my opinion.
The players commits to the club subject to contractual clauses

Re: Berge

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:53 pm
by NewClaret
taio wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:49 am
The players commits to the club subject to contractual clauses
True point and I personally wouldn’t agree to any clauses that give a player a right to leave on relegation. It wouldn’t shock me if one existed, because we know it did with Cornet and I suspect Weghorst, but I don’t think Berge came with their kind of European pedigree when he joined and was coming from a Championship club so I’d hope he didn’t demand one and we didn’t agree to one.

Esteve is a great example of the type of players with the right attitude to relegation actually, and with players like him willing to stay it’s almost doing them a disservice if you let others like Berge go.

Re: Berge

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:52 pm
by Claretitus
If Defour could have played as often as Berge, I’d have to agree he was better. BUT, he was injured as often as he played- so, Berge all day long for me.

Re: Berge

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:34 am
by Woonderbah
NewClaret wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:45 am
Probably not. My point above is more that when players sign contracts they commit to the club for a period. If we wanted to not sign Tresor now for example, we couldn’t just decide ourselves not to bother with a

We’ll no doubt have had players all season that are less than happy with the situation which is part and parcel of professional football.

If Alan and Kompany are serious about developing a squad that can compete at this premier league level he’s one we have to keep. He’s the only one who’s really looked like he belongs here all season. I’d also Muric/Cullen since they came back in, plus Esteve - but they haven’t done it all year like him. Those are the guys we need to bend over backwards to build the squad around and if we need to be a bit selfish to do it, and cut throat elsewhere, it has to be done in my opinion.
I agree and in my opinion if we're serious about an immediate return to the PL (should we go down of course) then keeping or selling Berge will be the litmus test of our ambition.

Re: Berge

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:55 am
by agreenwood
quoonbeatz wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:57 pm
He's nowhere near Defour but he's a very different type of player so it doesn't really matter. He's the best we've had since Defour, that's for sure.
Agree that Defour was a superior talent, but if it Berge isn’t sold and stays for, he’ll have played for us more than Defour ever did within the first 10 games of next season.

I loved Defour, but I suspect Berge will end up contributing more if we can hold onto him.

Re: Berge

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:36 am
by Quickenthetempo
Claretitus wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:52 pm
If Defour could have played as often as Berge, I’d have to agree he was better. BUT, he was injured as often as he played- so, Berge all day long for me.
If Berge is better than Defour, I will be expecting a top corner banger at Old Trafford this weekend :D