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Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:04 pm
by KellyClaret
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 2prpwggqxo
Two Premier League footballers have been arrested in connection with an alleged rape.

The pair – both aged 19 – were released on bail after being interviewed by police.

The players are at the same club, which declined to comment on the allegations.

“Officers have arrested two men following a report of a rape,” a police spokesperson said.

“A 19-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of assault and aiding and abetting a rape. A second 19-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of rape.

“Both men have since been released on police bail.”

The allegations were first reported by The Sun newspaper, which said the alleged attack took place on Friday.

It is not known if the players have been suspended pending the outcome of the police investigation.

The Premier League introduced mandatory sexual consent training for players and staff in 2022 following high-profile incidents involving top-flight footballers.

In November a Panorama investigation found Premier League clubs had continued to play two footballers, and kept a boss in post, while knowing they were under police investigation for sexual or domestic violence.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:42 pm
by Quicknick
But we don't know who.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:50 pm
by blatherwickstattoos
Don’t we have the youngest squad in the league ?? Hopefully it’s not any of ours

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:54 pm
by Claret Toni
Wolverhampton Wanderers have taken the extraordinary step of announcing they are not the Premier League club who had two players arrested at the weekend following an alleged rape.

I just wonder, with no actual knowledge, if this is because it's a Midlands club.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:58 pm
by GetIntoEm
it said they were arrested at their home ground wasnt it after match? we were away

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:58 pm
by wilks_bfc
Does saying “Premier League players” mean they have played in a premier league game, or just that they are at a premier league club?

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:10 pm
by AmbleClaret
The key word at this stage is "alleged". Whether ultimately innocent or guilty, their names will no doubt soon be revealed, and so the court of social media will take over.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:29 pm
by Elbarad
AmbleClaret wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:10 pm
The key word at this stage is "alleged". Whether ultimately innocent or guilty, their names will no doubt soon be revealed, and so the court of social media will take over.
Totally agree. Ask former LA Dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer.

If they are guilty, full force of the law should be applied. But hopefully the facts will be given time to come out before their lives, not to mention careers are ruined.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:54 pm
by tarkys_ears
AmbleClaret wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:10 pm
The key word at this stage is "alleged". Whether ultimately innocent or guilty, their names will no doubt soon be revealed, and so the court of social media will take over.
It's alright tho cos the court of brown envelopes and expensive lawyers will get them off.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:54 pm
by brexit
AmbleClaret wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:10 pm
The key word at this stage is "alleged". Whether ultimately innocent or guilty, their names will no doubt soon be revealed, and so the court of social media will take over.
Unless it is Arsenal

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:18 pm
by AmbleClaret
tarkys_ears wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:54 pm
It's alright tho cos the court of brown envelopes and expensive lawyers will get them off.
See,you're already assuming.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:30 pm
by NewClaret
Claret Toni wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:54 pm
Wolverhampton Wanderers have taken the extraordinary step of announcing they are not the Premier League club who had two players arrested at the weekend following an alleged rape.

I just wonder, with no actual knowledge, if this is because it's a Midlands club.
It’s because the original article suggested that the attack took place on Friday and one of the players was then arrested at their ground on Saturday. Luton, Sheffield and Wolves were the teams at home on Saturday. I think of that group Wolves were the only team to have two 19 yo’s in their squad.

If you include Sunday it was Everton, Villa, Palace and Fulham.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:38 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Ched Evans was found not guilty after doing time which arguably wrecked his career.He has recovered to play lower league football with the Nobbers but never to the lofty heights he could have attained.Mendy is now playing in France after a lengthy spell out undergoing trial to be found not guilty.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:42 pm
by Poulton-le-Claret
Another media created vacuum for people to fill with speculation that damages the reputation of innocent people. I have already seen various names appear online and it feels like fans pointing fingers at rival clubs with, no factual information to back it up.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:52 pm
by NewClaret
Poulton-le-Claret wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:42 pm
Another media created vacuum for people to fill with speculation that damages the reputation of innocent people. I have already seen various names appear online and it feels like fans pointing fingers at rival clubs with, no factual information to back it up.
My personal view is that until a person is proven guilty the should have a right to anonymity like the victim.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:08 pm
by tarkys_ears
AmbleClaret wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:18 pm
See,you're already assuming.
My assumption is no less than yours

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:18 pm
by FCBurnley
Why announce it and create tons of rumors and speculation. Just wait for more info before going public.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:26 pm
by pushpinpussy
NewClaret wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:52 pm
My personal view is that until a person is proven guilty the should have a right to anonymity like the victim.
Totally agree. Parliament has considered the idea of anonymity for those accused of rape on a number of occasions over the years. However, the law has never changed and previous Governments have gone back on their word that they would extend anonymity in rape cases to defendants.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:29 pm
by elwaclaret
FCBurnley wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:18 pm
Why announce it and create tons of rumors and speculation. Just wait for more info before going public.
Because it is a tabloid newspaper whose main functions are titilation and accusation to sell papers/gets clicks for advertisers. It works as this thread (and social media) proves; just need the BBC to jump on and several Sun employees get to raise their profile and get their faces onto TV.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:41 pm
by AmbleClaret
tarkys_ears wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:08 pm
My assumption is no less than yours
Not the case,your comment clearly pointed to their guilt.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:54 pm
by PremierLeagueClass
FCBurnley wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:18 pm
Why announce it and create tons of rumors and speculation. Just wait for more info before going public.
You’ve answered your own question there.

Reported it to create tons of rumours and speculation.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:55 pm
by pushpinpussy
if anyone is pointing at peoples guilt before they are charged or even tried at court please just remember the Eleanor Williams case

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:45 pm
by bfcjg
On the last discussion, when a footballer was accused, I said they shouldn't put themselves in a position where they can be accused and perhaps behave with a modicum of common sense, likewise women who hang around/ target clubs that footballers frequent or get chatted up by them shouldn't leave themselves vulnerable and use some common sense.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:55 pm
by ecc
Could I just ask one question, please?

If you are male, have you ever tried to begin to understand what it must feel like for a woman who's raped?

I feel it's much better concentrating on that anything else. Just my opinion, mind.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:19 pm
by CoolClaret
Trying to guess and speculate over something as serious is this is really, really poor.

Imagine how you'd feel if it was you or someone close to you that was casually getting their name thrown about like this when they were completely innocent?

It's not fair on any potential victim either.

I really wish we could just let the authorities get on with it instead of fuelling this TMZ style sh1t.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:52 pm
by Tricky Trevor
There have been so many of these over the years. The first I recall was Mark Wright on a pre-season tour of Sweden.
I’m sure there are others but the only one I remember with a guilty result was, as mentioned above, Ched Evans and he was subsequently aquitted.
I wouldn’t read to much into it until you see a guilty verdict.

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:53 pm
by wilks_bfc
ecc wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:55 pm
Could I just ask one question, please?

If you are male, have you ever tried to begin to understand what it must feel like for a woman who's raped?

I feel it's much better concentrating on that anything else. Just my opinion, mind.
I agree, however I have also seen the impact on the accused having known somebody that was falsely accused of rape

What he went through for over a year had, and still has and an enormous impact on his life

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:55 pm
by ISpeds00
Rumours it's a London club

Re: Two Premier League players arrested over alleged rape

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:36 pm
by Nonayforever
All my Man Utd mates are saying " oh no, here we go again "