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Dara Costelloe
Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 8:59 pm
by helmclaret
I wonder what the future holds for him.
I was impressed by him early last season when he seemed to just slot in and take first team football in his stride.
Just shows you how hard it is to make it in English football. Still only 21 so hopefully gets another chance in the Championship whether that’s with us or someone else.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 12:09 am
by Silkyskills1
Played a fair amount of football with other clubs but has he improved since being with us? Cannot afford ( literally) to be carrying any passengers next season. Sounds harsh but it is professional football.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 1:20 am
by fidelcastro
helmclaret wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 8:59 pm
I wonder what the future holds for him.
I was impressed by him early last season when he seemed to just slot in and take first team football in his stride.
Just shows you how hard it is to make it in English football. Still only 21 so hopefully gets another chance in the Championship whether that’s with us or someone else.
He didn't take it in his stride at all. He ended up disappointing and rightly lost his place.
I haven't heard anyone say that it was a mistake to send him out on loan, either last season or this one.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 1:22 am
by ClaretJimmy
Bradford City supporting mate said he was useless on loan for them. Suspect he won't be with us for long
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 6:35 am
by helmclaret
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 1:20 am
He didn't take it in his stride at all. He ended up disappointing and rightly lost his place.
I haven't heard anyone say that it was a mistake to send him out on loan, either last season or this one.
I thought he played really well at Huddersfield and did a job in the other games he featured in.
I’m not suggesting he should be involved with us next season but he’s been on the bench for us 7 times in the PL so must have something about him.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 6:36 am
by Winstonswhite
It’s such a massive step up to where we now play.
I look at our current Under 21s- who are a brilliant side- but don’t think any of them will end up with our first team.
When Massengo played for them, he was head and shoulders the best on the pitch, but he struggles to make our first team bench.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 7:51 am
by CoolClaret
helmclaret wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 6:35 am
I thought he played really well at Huddersfield and did a job in the other games he featured in.
I’m not suggesting he should be involved with us next season but he’s been on the bench for us 7 times in the PL so must have something about him.
Has he?
Did much better North of the border on loan by all accounts.
I recall he had a decent first touch and movement, ok dribbling but his passing/crossing/finishing was some way off.
Hopefully he continues to improve.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 8:09 am
by Carlos the Great
Hopefully we can sell him .. he didn’t cost a lot but the squad needs trimming and i don’t see the point in keeping him
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 8:09 am
by wilks_bfc
helmclaret wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 6:35 am
I’m not suggesting he should be involved with us next season but he’s been on the bench for us 7 times in the PL so must have something about him.
Does it? Or does it just mean there we had nobody else to fill the spaces?
On those benches we also had players like Thomas, Mancini, McGlynn & Dodgson
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 9:11 am
by claret2018
He’s a forward who has scored one goal since 2018.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 9:45 am
by warksclaret
claret2018 wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 9:11 am
He’s a forward who has scored one goal since 2018.
Our fans seem obsessed with nostalgia. Our squad including players out on loan is nearing 40 and some readers claiming Costelloe can play a part next season. Easy when its not your money paying the wages. The restructuring and culling of our squad needs to start Monday morning
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 9:48 am
by BurnleyFC
I thought he was unlucky not to grab a few goals for us early on last season, and it wasn’t through lack of effort.
He’s probably not going to make the grade for us going forwards, though.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 10:20 am
by Silkyskills1
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 9:48 am
I thought he was unlucky not to grab a few goals for us early on last season, and it wasn’t through lack of effort.
Probably just lack of ability then.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 10:50 am
by ClaretTony
Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 10:20 am
Probably just lack of ability then.
Certainly no lack of ability
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 10:56 am
by AlargeClaret
Felt a bit sorry for DC as he was nowhere near ready for the step up from U23’s to high end Championship. I’m sure he was thrown in due to our own injuries or lack of player in his position ? Seems to have been involved in most match day squads in his loan spells so presume he’s certainly got a reasonable career ahead of him . Maybe a decent div 1/2 player which is a fantastic achievement for any footballer .
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 11:34 am
by ClaretTony
AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 10:56 am
Felt a bit sorry for DC as he was nowhere near ready for the step up from U23’s to high end Championship. I’m sure he was thrown in due to our own injuries or lack of player in his position ? Seems to have been involved in most match day squads in his loan spells so presume he’s certainly got a reasonable career ahead of him . Maybe a decent div 1/2 player which is a fantastic achievement for any footballer .
I keep seeing calls on here for Mellon to be part of our squad next season but it's Costelloe who has been given the game time at Dundee.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 11:55 am
by Jakubs Tash
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 10:50 am
Certainly no lack of ability
What is it then?
Clearly not up to it at a decent level. Dropped by Bradford and Dundee.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 11:59 am
by AlargeClaret
Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 11:55 am
What is it then?
Clearly not up to it at a decent level. Dropped by Bradford and Dundee.
He was playing v Rangers the other day , you’re aware he’s had his season split between 2 clubs and managed around ? 30 appearances combined ( subs /starts etc )
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 12:01 pm
by helmclaret
warksclaret wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 9:45 am
Our fans seem obsessed with nostalgia. Our squad including players out on loan is nearing 40 and some readers claiming Costelloe can play a part next season. Easy when its not your money paying the wages. The restructuring and culling of our squad needs to start Monday morning
Not sure anyone has claimed he can play a part next season?
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 12:01 pm
by ClaretTony
Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 11:55 am
What is it then?
Clearly not up to it at a decent level. Dropped by Bradford and Dundee.
Fifteen appearances for Dundee, albeit just eight of them starts. I know it's a lower level in Scotland but it's still a decent level that he clearly is up to. One thing that was for certain, he had to go out on loan this season because he'd outgrown our under-21s as had Owen Dodgson.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 12:51 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Imagine like many of our other fringe players he’ll be shipped out this summer. Squad and wage bill is far too big to carrying fringe players like Costelloe.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 1:10 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Dundee fans are a little undecided on him from what I’ve seen. Seems as if they’d welcome him back next season for his pace but lacks end product .
From other bits I’ve seen, the general consensus is that they’d have Mellon back but would like to see more of him.
Dodgson apparently struggled at first but has developed rather quickly and impressed at times , another that they’d like to see back.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 2:19 pm
by Vegas Claret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 12:01 pm
Fifteen appearances for Dundee, albeit just eight of them starts. I know it's a lower level in Scotland but it's still a decent level that he clearly is up to. One thing that was for certain, he had to go out on loan this season because he'd outgrown our under-21s as had Owen Dodgson.
do you reckon Dodgson will be kept next season with the first team or sent out again ?
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 2:24 pm
by ClaretTony
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 2:19 pm
do you reckon Dodgson will be kept next season with the first team or sent out again ?
Not a clue - hardly seen anything of him in the last season and a half because of his loans but the opinion seems to be that he's improved significantly in that time and he's still just 21.
18 games in League 2
10 games in League 1
15 games in Scottish Premiership
He has another year on his contract so hopefully he'll get more game time next season, here or on loan, and continues to improve.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 3:12 pm
by ClaretTony
Today for Dundee
Owen Dodgson - full game
Dara Costelloe - on as a substitute at half time
Michael Mellon - unused sub
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 3:21 pm
by Goliath
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 3:12 pm
Today for Dundee
Owen Dodgson - full game
Dara Costelloe - on as a substitute at half time
Michael Mellon - unused sub
We've really ballsed up Mellon's season. He's gone from playing and scoring every week to not getting a game.
You'd think if they were going to move his club then they'd get some reassurances about game time beforehand.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 3:22 pm
by Goliath
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 2:24 pm
Not a clue - hardly seen anything of him in the last season and a half because of his loans but the opinion seems to be that he's improved significantly in that time and he's still just 21.
18 games in League 2
10 games in League 1
15 games in Scottish Premiership
He has another year on his contract so hopefully he'll get more game time next season, here or on loan, and continues to improve.
It'd save us a lot of money if we could go into the season with Taylor/Dodgson as left backs and beyer/new guy from psv as right backs.
Be a bit of a risk but would allow us to spend money elsewhere.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 3:29 pm
by ClaretTony
Goliath wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 3:21 pm
We've really ballsed up Mellon's season. He's gone from playing and scoring every week to not getting a game.
You'd think if they were going to move his club then they'd get some reassurances about game time beforehand.
It's a shame really for Michael Mellon - first half of the season he'd twenty starts and three sub appearances in League Two, scoring 13 goals. Then he's gone up to Dundee and started just three games with eleven sub appearances, and scored three goals. He is, of course, younger than the other two but he could have been playing regular football in the second half of the season.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 3:48 pm
by KRBFC
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 2:24 pm
Not a clue - hardly seen anything of him in the last season and a half because of his loans but the opinion seems to be that he's improved significantly in that time and he's still just 21.
18 games in League 2
10 games in League 1
15 games in Scottish Premiership
He has another year on his contract so hopefully he'll get more game time next season, here or on loan, and continues to improve.
Dodgson with two assists against Rangers, really impressive first 45 minutes until their entire team seem to fade badly and shipped a few second half.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 3:52 pm
by Goliath
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 3:29 pm
It's a shame really for Michael Mellon - first half of the season he'd twenty starts and three sub appearances in League Two, scoring 13 goals. Then he's gone up to Dundee and started just three games with eleven sub appearances, and scored three goals. He is, of course, younger than the other two but he could have been playing regular football in the second half of the season.
Will that have been Charlie Adam's doing? Whoever it was has done a particularly crap job in this instance
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 3:54 pm
by ClaretTony
Goliath wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 3:52 pm
Will that have been Charlie Adam's doing? Whoever it was has done a particularly crap job in this instance
I think Charlie Adam had some input in this alliance with Dundee but not in the players going there. He left for Fleetwood on New Year's Eve and the loans were all done in the following month.
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 6:00 pm
by boatshed bill
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 3:29 pm
It's a shame really for Michael Mellon - first half of the season he'd twenty starts and three sub appearances in League Two, scoring 13 goals. Then he's gone up to Dundee and started just three games with eleven sub appearances, and scored three goals. He is, of course, younger than the other two but he could have been playing regular football in the second half of the season.
Didn't he pick up a bad head injury?
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 6:18 pm
by ClaretTony
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 6:00 pm
Didn't he pick up a bad head injury?
Only missed one game though and that was because of concussion protocols
Re: Dara Costelloe
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 6:50 pm
by Silkyskills1
Sounds like three young players plying their trade. Dodgson appears to come out of it with credit; Mellon sounds like lack of game time has held him back; Costelloe has at best been 'treading water'.