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Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 6:55 am
by bumba
Liam Rosenior
Danny Rohl
Carlos Corberran

David Moyes would be my pick but doubt there's any chance whatsoever, the three above are young managers who've done well with their clubs on limited budgets

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 7:09 am
by jedi_master
Moyes would be my choice but if he’s not interested it would be Carrick for me.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 7:34 am
by bumba
jedi_master wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:09 am
Moyes would be my choice but if he’s not interested it would be Carrick for me.
Carrick didn't have the best campaign this year, McKenna would have been ideal but no chance now.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 7:35 am
by Goobs
Rosenior for me.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 7:41 am
by Shaggy
Corberan or Rosenior would be fantastic shouts and would somewhat suit the squad we have to a degree.

Moyes will go to a higher profile job than ours.

Robins would also be a good solid about aswell and he seems the sort of guy who won’t take any nonsense.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 7:42 am
by 123EasyasBFC
Kjetil Knutsen

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 7:53 am
by Claret Till I Die
Reckon that Xavi chap would do a job

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 8:25 am
by Pickles
Corberan would be a decent option. Did well with Huddersfield, taking them to a play off final, and turned WBA around to get them into the playoffs.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 8:35 am
by JR1882
Corberan, Rosenior would do well with this squad. Rohl is a shout but I don’t know enough about how they play.

Heckingbottom anyone? He won the league in September remember! 😂

Can’t see a moyes type coming in - Alan’s main priority is the quality of the product/good football, however our perceived need for immediate promotion is greater this time around which may lead to a more pragmatic appointment.

Clubs like Brighton do demonstrate that you can have a “project” spanning multiple managers if your off field hierarchy is solid - the concern here is VK rules the roost.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 8:38 am
by bobinho
I would imagine that anyone considering this must first consider who our playing staff are and how much money they will need to build their own squad, because the chances of our “wing heavy” squad won’t be to their liking.
For that reason alone, VK carries on. I’d go as far as to say we are VK reliant.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 8:40 am
by GetIntoEm
Lot of people saying Moyes, I'd love that but are we really at that level? Would have thought he could get a bigger job than ours

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 8:42 am
by AfloatinClaret
Claret Till I Die wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:53 am
Reckon that Xavi chap would do a job
Nah! He's a proved himself a loser already.
Surely I'm not the only one who's thinking that Klopp jacked-in Liverpool to make himself available in case Burnley enquired this summer

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 8:43 am
by Jamesy
bobinho wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 8:38 am
I would imagine that anyone considering this must first consider who our playing staff are and how much money they will need to build their own squad, because the chances of our “wing heavy” squad won’t be to their liking.
For that reason alone, VK carries on. I’d go as far as to say we are VK reliant.
Spot on. Kompany spent a small fortune on our bloated squad of “potential” and we are now reliant on him to get a tune out of them.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 8:45 am
by dougcollins
Moyes? May as well just get Dyche back when he leaves Everton.

Tall about going backwards.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 8:50 am
by ervi34
My number one pick would definitely be Moyes but I think it's not really realistic. He probably wouldn't want to drop down and unfortunately, I don't think he fits "the model" which is nonsense for me.

Regarding managers in Championship, I wouldn't mind Corberan, Carrick, Rohl or Robins but I'm not sure if they'd want the job and how difficult could compensation be.

If we are looking for managers without job, Rosenior is probably the most obvious pick but I'm not entirely sold on him.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 8:52 am
by 123EasyasBFC
The worry about the potential need of a new manager is Alan Pace is totally obsessed with Kompany and probably hasn’t even thought of a new manager

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 8:53 am
by kenyon6923
dougcollins wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 8:45 am


Tall about going backwards.
what's this season been if not major backwards ?

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 9:25 am
by ClaretOfMancunia
As mentioned above, since we dismantled our in-house scouting and analytics teams for Kompany - we're going to need someone to bring those with them too I imagine?

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 9:27 am
by NottsClaret
I'd be happy with Danny Rohl. Astonishing how he turned Wednesday round last season. They were an absolute disaster of a team and a basket case club when he arrived and he turned them into a decent Championship side without chucking money at anything.

Probably not glamorous enough to catch Pace's eye.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 9:42 am
by Fretters
Ashley Cole will be linked, I imagine.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 9:45 am
by bumba
The worry is our three man shortlist last time included Rooney and Wilder. It could go disastrously wrong

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 9:46 am
by bfcjg
Harry Rednapp with Roy Hodgson, we need a management duo who's combined age is older then the squad.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 9:49 am
by Clive 1960
Is Brian Flynn still available 😀

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 9:56 am
by Goliath
NottsClaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 9:27 am
I'd be happy with Danny Rohl. Astonishing how he turned Wednesday round last season. They were an absolute disaster of a team and a basket case club when he arrived and he turned them into a decent Championship side without chucking money at anything.

Probably not glamorous enough to catch Pace's eye.
This is the risk with most managers really, their past successes don't guarantee anything as they are usually built on different circumstances and contexts.
He went into an underachieving club and got Ugbo on loan who scored goals for them. He didn't really have much to lose.
It's a big difference from that to being given quite a lot of money to spend (probably) and being expected to finish top 2. Whoever takes over would be expected to lose a maximum of maybe 8 or 9 games all season. That's quite a lot of pressure.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 10:58 am
by xxmunkyennuixx
Moyes would be my pick. Loads of experience. Builds teams that work hard and are competitive. The style of play is not as bad as West Ham fans make out. They have over inflated egos. I think he'd guarantee us promotion and I'd expect him to have us more competitive in the EPL than we have been this season. After his experiences with the West Ham fans maybe a more patient, supportive fan base will appeal?

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:07 am
by Shaggy
Another under the radar choice would be Derek McInnes who’s just won manager of the year in Scotland. Took Kilmarnock from the championship to Europe and done a good job with Aberdeen ( who’ve dropped like a stone since he left )

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:12 am
by brexit
Gareth southgate

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:15 am
by 1989_claret
Rosenior would be my first choice then Carrick. I'll throw Will Still into the mix too. Heard lots about him but never seen Reims play.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:16 am
by Guller Bull
Shaggy wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:07 am
Another under the radar choice would be Derek McInnes who’s just won manager of the year in Scotland. Took Kilmarnock from the championship to Europe and done a good job with Aberdeen ( who’ve dropped like a stone since he left )
I'm sure McInnes has been linked with us before?

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:18 am
by giveusaB
What’s Big Sam doing these days😮

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:23 am
by GetIntoEm
Pep must have had enough at Citeh by now

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:23 am
by BigGaz
This is utterly depressing if this is what's available to us.

Rosenior is a honking shout. Underachieved massively with the resources available to him.

Robins is probably the best shout. Moyes would likely get us up at the first time of asking and it seems written in the stars he'll manage us one day but I cannot be arsed with another 5-10 years of Dyche ball.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:27 am
by 1989_claret
BigGaz wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:23 am
This is utterly depressing if this is what's available to us.

Rosenior is a honking shout. Underachieved massively with the resources available to him.

Robins is probably the best shout. Moyes would likely get us up at the first time of asking and it seems written in the stars he'll manage us one day but I cannot be arsed with another 5-10 years of Dyche ball.
Bit unfair on Rosenior with it being his first time in management (except interim at Derby). Could say the same about Kompany at Anderlecht?

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:33 am
by BigGaz
You could but VK widely acknowledged to have done a good job with not a great squad there - finished 6th and 8th before he fully took over and got them in third.

You could also see the attraction with his stature within the game and his pulling power.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:41 am
by Newcastleclaret93
Christian Ilzer would be my number 1 pick if we could attract him.

Think he’s destined for big things.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:45 am
by Clovius Boofus
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:41 am
Christian Ilzer would be my number 1 pick if we could attract him.
And when he hit his first run of poor results, you'd been on here 24/7 demanding his sacking. Old habits die hard, Newcastle.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:52 am
by KRBFC
Rosenior :lol: spent an absolute fortune and couldn’t even scrape a playoff place.

Van Nistelrooy
Kohl
Knutsen


We need a manager who’s going to play on the front foot and dominate sides, use our quality to our strength.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:52 am
by 1989_claret
BigGaz wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:33 am
You could also see the attraction with his stature within the game and his pulling power.
Yeah completely agree with this tbf.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:54 am
by 123EasyasBFC
Cooper
Knutsen
Robins
Svensson
Still

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:58 am
by bumba
KRBFC wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:52 am
Rosenior :lol: spent an absolute fortune and couldn’t even scrape a playoff place.

Van Nistelrooy
Kohl
Knutsen


We need a manager who’s going to play on the front foot and dominate sides, use our quality to our strength.
Hull had a bet spend of £7.5 million last season and Phillogene cost close to £6 million 😂
Is that really an absolute fortune?

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 12:05 pm
by BigGaz
bumba wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:58 am
Hull had a bet spend of £7.5 million last season and Phillogene cost close to £6 million 😂
Is that really an absolute fortune?
Twine
Zaroury
Carvalho
Delap
Philogene
Giles

That's an embarrassment of riches at Championship level, allied to them having a reasonable squad to start with.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 12:14 pm
by Belgianclaret
I’d give Colin one final hoorah 😜

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 12:16 pm
by bumba
BigGaz wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 12:05 pm
Twine
Zaroury
Carvalho
Delap
Philogene
Giles

That's an embarrassment of riches at Championship level, allied to them having a reasonable squad to start with.
Do you think VK would have got us promoted last time if these were the only players he signed?

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 12:20 pm
by Stockbrokerbelt
Angel Louis Lopez in talks.😄

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 12:20 pm
by Andingle
Clive 1960 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 9:49 am
Is Brian Flynn still available 😀
He'll be on the short list

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 12:28 pm
by warksclaret
Don't rule out David Moyes, he lives in the north west, and has been to watch us a few times. Might like the challenge of getting us back up, in preference to the cut throat of the PL. Think he could bring us stability, common sense without the big ego. I think also he would bring a good level of coaches and back room staff with him. Alternatively Michael Carrick-I like the loyalty he has shown Boro and I read a few clubs tried to prise him away.They were unlucky to get promoted when we went up

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 1:12 pm
by CoolClaret
If VK goes Moyes would be my #1 without question - I feel like we need an experienced head who's seen it all to get the dross off the wage books and I think it'd be good for the board to see how a vastly more experienced manager, who has been at a number of clubs, operates.

He plays with wingers, a 4-2-3-1 (like we have done) and would work well with the centre halves on our books. It's not that dissimilar to a squad that he's used to managing.

Failing that then I'm not sure.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 1:19 pm
by RVclaret
Corberan my number 1 pick. Overperformed at both clubs in this league based on budget. Tactically flexible manager who can play several different styles. Would be interesting to see him given the best squad and largest budget in the league. I also think he’s smart enough to adjust to the PL challenge should we get there. Not sure whether he could be prized out of West Brom though.

Stylistically Rosenior and Knutsen fit the bill. Both like ball dominant teams and the transition to their styles would be minimal. The former is a bit of a Russell Martin style risk though given, like Martin, he didn’t deliver play offs - albeit again the play style would be very similar, while Saints had to completely change their approach, perhaps reducing that risk a touch.

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 1:24 pm
by Goliath
bumba wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:58 am
Hull had a bet spend of £7.5 million last season and Phillogene cost close to £6 million 😂
Is that really an absolute fortune?
He also had a bunch of players of very good players on loan. Along with seri in midfield who is a class act

Re: Next manager

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 1:27 pm
by Murger
Wasn’t Rosenior sacked because of his style of play?