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How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 10:37 am
by burnley007
How long do you think Pace has been working on a replacement?
Has he spent this week trying to convince VK to stay?
Has he started to approach candidates?

I wonder when rumours of new manager options will start to appear...

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 10:44 am
by Big Vinny K
burnley007 wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 10:37 am
How long do you think Pace has been working on a replacement?
Has he spent this week trying to convince VK to stay?
Has he started to approach candidates?

I wonder when rumours of new manager options will start to appear...
8 days - the day before he was going to Alton Towers
No - he went to Alton Towers
Yes - at Alton Towers
Next Tuesday - when he’s back from Alton Towers

That’s all I know

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 10:51 am
by Funkydrummer
I reckon he will have known, or had a good inkling that
something was brewing. With hindsight, the whole matchday
experience and interviews, attitudes, team selections, lack of real effort
by some players will have alerted him no doubt.

He's not daft, not by a long chalk.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 10:58 am
by Clovius Boofus
He won't have known much about it. BM had other irons in the fire before they turned to Kompany, but they got turned down. That all there is to it.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:02 am
by GetIntoEm
I think the links with Robins last week are probably linked

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:03 am
by Shaggy
Long enough to sound out Mark Robins

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:04 am
by Jamesy
Funkydrummer wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 10:51 am
I reckon he will have known, or had a good inkling that
something was brewing. With hindsight, the whole matchday
experience and interviews, attitudes, team selections, lack of real effort
by some players will have alerted him no doubt.

He's not daft, not by a long chalk.
I don’t think he is daft. Just a bit naive.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:12 am
by dougcollins
At least it may have sorted out for him how he treats the two parties, as I reckon he had it the wrong way round.

Fans are loyal, managers aren't.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:15 am
by DAVETHEVICAR
Pity it is not Pace who is leaving instead of VK

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:28 am
by GetIntoEm
DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:15 am
Pity it is not Pace who is leaving instead of VK
why is that?

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:30 am
by 123EasyasBFC
I’d be amazed if mark robins left Coventry for us

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:31 am
by Goliath
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:30 am
I’d be amazed if mark robins left Coventry for us
I'd be amazed if he was offered it and said no.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:33 am
by burnley007
I'm hoping for an exciting new, young manager.
Not a Moyes, Robins type.
Rohl, Fabregas, Muslic sound more fitting with the project...

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:37 am
by jedi_master
I think he’s been very naive as to Kompany’s loyalty to Burnley. Nobody could ever plan for a club like Bayern emerging, but my gut is saying that he fully expected Kompany to manager of Burnley this coming season and I reckon this will have knocked him for six.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:40 am
by GetIntoEm
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:30 am
I’d be amazed if mark robins left Coventry for us
it would be a massive job offer for him over what he has at coventry, if he got offered it, he's taking it.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:45 am
by Clovius Boofus
jedi_master wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:37 am
Nobody could ever plan for a club like Bayern emerging, but my gut is saying that he fully expected Kompany to manager of Burnley this coming season and I reckon this will have knocked him for six.
I agree. If someone said to me on the final day of the season that Bayern Munich would be coming in the Kompany I would have PMSL, and told them to get their head looked at.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:47 am
by Juan Tanamera
Shaggy wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:03 am
Long enough to sound out Mark Robins
The nearly man.
Nearly won the play offs.
Nearly got to the FA Cup final.
No thanks.
A distinct lack of imagination if Robins emerges as a candidate.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:49 am
by claptrappers_union
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Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 12:04 pm
by IanMcL
Big Vinny K wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 10:44 am
8 days - the day before he was going to Alton Towers
No - he went to Alton Towers
Yes - at Alton Towers
Next Tuesday - when he’s back from Alton Towers

That’s all I know
Insider information! :D

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 12:05 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
claptrappers_union wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:49 am
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What is kompany going to Brighton?

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 12:06 pm
by IanMcL
DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:15 am
Pity it is not Pace who is leaving instead of VK
Pace backed the sweet talking Belgian to the hilt.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 12:06 pm
by NewClaret
dougcollins wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:12 am
At least it may have sorted out for him how he treats the two parties, as I reckon he had it the wrong way round.

Fans are loyal, managers aren't.
If you mean “I wonder whether Pace will learn anything from this experience about how he treats managers in future?” I think it’s an interesting question.

I personally have no issue at all with what Pace has said about Dyche (“we love Sean”) or Kompany (“it’s like dating the most beautiful girl in the village”). I think it’s right to back people publicly and it helps create the right feeling for managers being trusted and settled. I think we all operate best in a work setting where we feel valued and secure, which I assume is what he’s trying to do.

But maybe he’ll realise they will come & go and shaft you when something better comes along so change his approach somewhat - a DoF, direct more appreciation of the fans as you say, etc. Will be interesting to know what lessons he’s learned from it.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 12:08 pm
by Chester Perry
claptrappers_union wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:49 am
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I still cannot believe he said this with a straight face after he reposted this on insta (not X/twitter)

https://x.com/turfcastpodcast/status/16 ... 73824?s=46

though I note both the AP's insta and his daughters original tiktok post have been taken down

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 12:19 pm
by JohnMac
Kompany wasn't mentioned by any source until Tuesday was he?

Jack Cork spoke about Kompany trying to rally the players for next season in that post match huddle on Sunday so it's possible Kompany didn't know too much about it let alone Pace.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 2:06 pm
by NewClaret
JohnMac wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:19 pm
Kompany wasn't mentioned by any source until Tuesday was he?

Jack Cork spoke about Kompany trying to rally the players for next season in that post match huddle on Sunday so it's possible Kompany didn't know too much about it let alone Pace.
If this is true, which is what Fabrizio seems to be inferring (they first spoke to him on Monday and he said ‘yes’ immediately) then it’s an incredible turn of events and has all happened so fast.

Imagine waking up on Monday morning planning for the Championship and then joining Bayern by Thursday/Friday.

My big worry now is that if this came completely from left field and Pace had no hint it would happen they’re probably at the very early stages of a recruitment process that might take a long time and will probably destabilise our summer preparations.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 3:16 pm
by IanMcL
Does Mr P know yet?

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 3:20 pm
by Accbloke
Whether Pace had any inkling or not, hold out for the 20 million, no compromises. Make them pay and Kompany sweat, ball is in our court.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 3:37 pm
by IanMcL
Accbloke wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 3:20 pm
Whether Pace had any inkling or not, hold out for the 20 million, no compromises. Make them pay and Kompany sweat, ball is in our court.
I would hate to lose a few million just because we hung on for the impossible. Bayern won't pay €20m

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 3:40 pm
by Vegas Claret
IanMcL wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 3:37 pm
I would hate to lose a few million just because we hung on for the impossible. Bayern won't pay €20m
VK has plenty, if he wants to go he can pay the part Bayern don't want to, the cost should be whatever is left on his contract not what Bayern think they want to pay.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 3:54 pm
by forzagranata
Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 3:40 pm
VK has plenty, if he wants to go he can pay the part Bayern don't want to, the cost should be whatever is left on his contract not what Bayern think they want to pay.
The cost will be whatever Bayern are willing to pay.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:08 pm
by Vegas Claret
forzagranata wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 3:54 pm
The cost will be whatever Bayern are willing to pay.
the cost will be what Burnley are willing to accept. We all know it'll be 'undisclosed' anyway

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:12 pm
by Holtyclaret
jedi_master wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:37 am
I think he’s been very naive as to Kompany’s loyalty to Burnley. Nobody could ever plan for a club like Bayern emerging, but my gut is saying that he fully expected Kompany to manager of Burnley this coming season and I reckon this will have knocked him for six.
Hardly naive when he put a whopping compo amount in his new contract.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:12 pm
by forzagranata
Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 4:08 pm
the cost will be what Burnley are willing to accept. We all know it'll be 'undisclosed' anyway
There is literally no price if Bayern don't pay.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:17 pm
by Claret Till I Die
I've heard that Alan Pace doesn't know who Vincent Kompany is..

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:21 pm
by kentonclaret
Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 4:08 pm
the cost will be what Burnley are willing to accept. We all know it'll be 'undisclosed' anyway
If there is no release clause make them pay.

I wonder why the other 8/9 high profile managers turned the gig down? Club supposedly run by a bunch of basket cases constantly at each other’s throats.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:23 pm
by jrgbfc
If it collapsed at this stage i think we'd be in a worse position than Bayern. I agree we should be trying to get as much compo as we can but we desperately need it to go through.

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:37 pm
by Vegas Claret
forzagranata wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 4:12 pm
There is literally no price if Bayern don't pay.
and ? He's contracted to us not Bayern

Re: How long has Pace known?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:41 pm
by morninbob
forzagranata wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 4:12 pm
There is literally no price if Bayern don't pay.
They offered 18m for glasner, palace wanted 100m.