Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 10:52 am
Daily Mail has Chelsea bidding £20 mn for James Trafford, a good move for all concerned!
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Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 10:54 am
If we get an offer of 20 million I think he deffo be sold ..
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 10:59 am
Managerless team are bidding £20m for a unknown young goalkeeper. I wouldn't believe it until you mentioned the team Chelsea, anything is possible with that lot.
Although I still think Trafford will be No 1 at the Turf this season with us getting some money for Muric.
Although I still think Trafford will be No 1 at the Turf this season with us getting some money for Muric.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:00 am
We should keep him, develop him and sell him in a few years time. That's why we signed him in the first place
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:02 am
But you run the risk of him not developing as expected.claptrappers_union wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:00 amWe should keep him, develop him and sell him in a few years time. That's why we signed him in the first place
Deal or no deal situation.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:11 am
But his legacy will be we gambled our Premier League position for £5m quid profit.
He's a good keeper. He's one of a few players whose futures have already been paved out for him, particularly at the international level. He needs at least a solid season in the Championship. He is our investment; we can cash out or hang on to him and get more in 12-18 months.
He's a good keeper. He's one of a few players whose futures have already been paved out for him, particularly at the international level. He needs at least a solid season in the Championship. He is our investment; we can cash out or hang on to him and get more in 12-18 months.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:14 am
When you have the likes of Ramsdale who is young and experienced looking for a club why would you bother with 20m unknown on Trafford?
I just can't see it happening. I would like to see us improve him and move him on in a few years ala Pope. There is a keeper in there but this season was absolutely not the time to throw him into the fire. Next season should suit him better and hopefully we get promoted he has the experience and confidence to cement himself as a No 1 PL keeper.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:18 am
We only sold Pope for 10 million remember and he was in England set up too .we can’t afford not to take 20million for Trafford .. we are a championship teamcriminalclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:14 amWhen you have the likes of Ramsdale who is young and experienced looking for a club why would you bother with 20m unknown on Trafford?
I just can't see it happening. I would like to see us improve him and move him on in a few years ala Pope. There is a keeper in there but this season was absolutely not the time to throw him into the fire. Next season should suit him better and hopefully we get promoted he has the experience and confidence to cement himself as a No 1 PL keeper.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:20 am
Id imagine its nonsense put about by vested interests....
Ive been wrong before though.
Ive been wrong before though.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:21 am
He is a good keeper he was appallingly treated by Kompany though he should have been introduced gradually.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:23 am
I didn't say I wouldn't take £20m for him, I said I cannot see it happening with his inexperience at present compared to his competition. I think the rumour is probably a load of guff and I expect him to be out No 1 next season with Muric being much more likely to be sold for a profit after his contributions.Carlos the Great wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:18 amWe only sold Pope for 10 million remember and he was in England set up too .we can’t afford not to take 20million for Trafford .. we are a championship team
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:28 am
Chelsea paid £71 million for Kepa and are a complete basket case.
If we can push these numpties to £25 mill then that would be a serious piece of business.
If we can push these numpties to £25 mill then that would be a serious piece of business.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:33 am
You have, and quite recently
If it is true and I doubt it is, I'd take it personally.
We may or may not make more down the line but we don't need him to win the Championship and the money would come in very handy for the new manager.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:34 am
You are applying logic to Chelsea's transfer policycriminalclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:14 amWhen you have the likes of Ramsdale who is young and experienced looking for a club why would you bother with 20m unknown on Trafford?
I just can't see it happening. I would like to see us improve him and move him on in a few years ala Pope. There is a keeper in there but this season was absolutely not the time to throw him into the fire. Next season should suit him better and hopefully we get promoted he has the experience and confidence to cement himself as a No 1 PL keeper.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:37 am
£20m start point.
£25m plus sell on, international debut etc.
Sell
Actually Pitchfork was £25m rising to £30m so more like that.
£25m plus sell on, international debut etc.
Sell
Actually Pitchfork was £25m rising to £30m so more like that.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:47 am
£25m will look like very cheap business in a few years time, I’m sure.
Depends on our financial situation I suppose.
Depends on our financial situation I suppose.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 12:00 pm
I actually think we will sell Trafford as Newcastle apparently also interested and sounds like might be something in one of these rumours .. I’d be quite happy starting next season with Muric as our number 1 .::criminalclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:23 amI didn't say I wouldn't take £20m for him, I said I cannot see it happening with his inexperience at present compared to his competition. I think the rumour is probably a load of guff and I expect him to be out No 1 next season with Muric being much more likely to be sold for a profit after his contributions.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 12:31 pm
If selling Trafford relieves any pressure to sell key players and we keep Muric as our keeper then it's a yes from me.. this last week has been like turning up at the tip with unwanted stuff and people clambering over themselves to buy it
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 12:34 pm
Yes
Throw in Amdouni and you can have both for £40m
Very charitable all these clubs taking our cast offs.
Throw in Amdouni and you can have both for £40m
Very charitable all these clubs taking our cast offs.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 12:35 pm
dont forget Man City have a sell-on clause so will get a share of any sale
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 12:38 pm
When Boehly buys a sandwich from the local shop the staff change all the prices and add another zero onto themCoolClaret wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:28 amChelsea paid £71 million for Kepa and are a complete basket case.
If we can push these numpties to £25 mill then that would be a serious piece of business.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 3:37 pm
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 4:30 pm
How can Chelsea be interested in this keeper when so many posters (obviously who know better) on this board say he is no good. Ive no idea why.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 4:47 pm
I would deliver him for that fee
Re Zeki Amoundi he will be a top player in the Championship and no way should we be moving hin on.Tressor and Ramsey yes
Re Zeki Amoundi he will be a top player in the Championship and no way should we be moving hin on.Tressor and Ramsey yes
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 4:47 pm
20 million 
get him a taxi before they change their mind.
get him a taxi before they change their mind.Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 4:49 pm
Same Chelsea that signed Mudryk for £88.8 million and Kepa for £71 million ?pushpinpussy wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 4:30 pmHow can Chelsea be interested in this keeper when so many posters (obviously who know better) on this board say he is no good. Ive no idea why.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 4:50 pm
We are not Chelsea /. We are a championship team and if they want to give 20 plus million. For Trafford I would sell him /. We got promoted without him
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 4:51 pm
They will get a share of the profit ..if there is any.bigdavethemaddog wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 12:35 pmdont forget Man City have a sell-on clause so will get a share of any sale
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 4:52 pm
And Brighton's third choice keeper Robert Sanchez for £25 million.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 4:49 pmSame Chelsea that signed Mudryk for £88.8 million and Kepa for £71 million ?
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 5:12 pm
Start the bidding at £50m and hope he snaps your hand off
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 5:19 pm
If there are several clubs interested we will get more than £20m for him. Which is good as he is not what we need.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:12 pm
We should all be talking Trafford up, not the opposite. He's gonna be a very good keeper.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:15 pm
He is also wanted. I suspect another £12-15m will be accepted.Carlos the Great wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 12:00 pmI actually think we will sell Trafford as Newcastle apparently also interested and sounds like might be something in one of these rumours .. I’d be quite happy starting next season with Muric as our number 1 .::
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:24 pm
If he gets the chance with a good manager, and not that clown that threw him in at the deep end, then there may well be a good keeper in there, but he needs time and nurturing. So sell now for a modest profit or keep hold and hope a proper manager can develop him.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:27 pm
If Trafford signs for a club as a my number 2 then he will end up doing a dean henderson and having to move again to show what he’s capable off.
He might have a chance of number 1 at Chelsea because their keepers aren’t very good but if he goes to Newcastle he is nowhere near popes level
He might have a chance of number 1 at Chelsea because their keepers aren’t very good but if he goes to Newcastle he is nowhere near popes level
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:36 pm
Why can't people understand that Trafford is massively more valuable than nick pope. Literally chalk and cheese situation. £20m wouldnt be a bad deal with seller and buyer.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:55 pm
I'd take £15m plus Pope all day long for ditching Trafford.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:57 pm
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 8:04 pm
If Pope gets injured again, which is likely, Trafford will get a decent run out as number 1123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 7:27 pmIf Trafford signs for a club as a my number 2 then he will end up doing a dean henderson and having to move again to show what he’s capable off.
He might have a chance of number 1 at Chelsea because their keepers aren’t very good but if he goes to Newcastle he is nowhere near popes level
Pope made 15 league appearances this season, that’s it
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 8:18 pm
Yes suppose there is that issue with popeGodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 8:04 pmIf Pope gets injured again, which is likely, Trafford will get a decent run out as number 1
Pope made 15 league appearances this season, that’s it
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 8:39 pm
If Maresca gets the Chelsea job it wont be Trafford they try and buy but Hermansen. I have been to the KP Stadium about 8 times this year and take it from me he is a sensational young keeper-great wth his feet, very good in the air and a good shot stopper. He wont be fazed by the PL
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 8:39 pm
Daily Mail now ( Monday 5pm) says Newcastle are interested in Trafford, a little bidding war could be quite profitable!
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 8:49 pm
Chelsea's owners are all about 'trading' players, like a baseball club. They see the current U21 keeper, who's just been called up to the England Euros squad.
They see future profit, not what's happened this season. There could definitely be something in this.
They see future profit, not what's happened this season. There could definitely be something in this.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 8:58 pm
If Newcastle played a full season with Pope they'd be pushing champions league places....
If Newcastle played a full season with Trafford they'd be mid table...
Which one is more profitable now?
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 9:18 pm
I’ve watched a lot of Leicester and I would genuinely rather have Trafford over hermansenwarksclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 8:39 pmIf Maresca gets the Chelsea job it wont be Trafford they try and buy but Hermansen. I have been to the KP Stadium about 8 times this year and take it from me he is a sensational young keeper-great wth his feet, very good in the air and a good shot stopper. He wont be fazed by the PL
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 9:47 pm
Newcastle have a better, more organised defence
Trafford would benefit from that, much like Pope did during his time here with the way Dyche set up
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 9:53 pm
When will you consider laying off the lad?
Why not wish him well at any new club?
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 10:10 pm
Obviously, the Trafford thing has been exhausted over and over again, but it still completely baffles me how anybody sees anything at all in this lad. He's simply not got the basics in my opinion, and if he hasn't got that now you can't coach it at this stage. Every aspect of his game is just poor imo. Pope is literally light year's ahead of him. Yes, there's an age gap, but I just don't see Trafford ever getting anywhere near pope.
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:44 pm
It's best to compare the two at the same age. Pope spent the season in which he turned 20 on loan at Harrow Borough and Welling United. Did he look vastly better than Trafford at that age?alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 10:10 pmObviously, the Trafford thing has been exhausted over and over again, but it still completely baffles me how anybody sees anything at all in this lad. He's simply not got the basics in my opinion, and if he hasn't got that now you can't coach it at this stage. Every aspect of his game is just poor imo. Pope is literally light year's ahead of him. Yes, there's an age gap, but I just don't see Trafford ever getting anywhere near pope.
Trafford was one of the best keepers in League One in 2022-23. Do you think he's going backwards? Or is that the sort of level that you mean when you say he's poor?
Re: Trafford to Chelsea?
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 9:18 am
How is that laying in to him?boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 9:53 pmWhen will you consider laying off the lad?
Why not wish him well at any new club?