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Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:50 pm

News from Sky. Whose going to drive him there?

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:55 pm

15m lol lol lol

I hope it's 15m and Pope and not just 15m

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:05 pm

Not a chance we accept that when there are a few clubs reportedly interested. Can't blame them after they got Pope on the cheap though.
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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by bfcjg » Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:09 pm

I still think he will be a top keeper as long as he is given time to mature, has a solid robust defence in front of him and is allowed to kick it long at times.
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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:18 pm

I hope he goes. I also hope he has a great future.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:18 pm

With what we reportedly paid for him and his contract until 2027 they can jump in the Tyne.
Has to be worth more than £25m, purely on potential.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:19 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:09 pm
I still think he will be a top keeper as long as he is given time to mature, has a solid robust defence in front of him and is allowed to kick it long at times.
He will be, but Vinny threw him under the bus last season.

It’d take a lot for him to come back for us after that, so we’ll probably sell him this summer.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:25 pm

£25m and Pope please!
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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:32 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:09 pm
I still think he will be a top keeper as long as he is given time to mature, has a solid robust defence in front of him and is allowed to kick it long at times.
Hung out to dry last season. So unfair on him.
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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by fatboy47 » Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:33 pm

Probably around the going rate...he'll go for something in that ball park.

Had he been a product of our youth system and had the season he's just had you could probably divide that by 10.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by warksclaret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:33 pm

We can afford to sit on this one, with Chelsea and Liverpool supposedly interested, plus Bayern. Would be nice to do this once our new manager is employed, so that he can instantly be involved

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:44 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:32 pm
Hung out to dry last season. So unfair on him.
Completely agree Tony. Awfully mismanaged. Also awfully treated by some of our fans (thankfully only online, in the main).
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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by agreenwood » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:01 pm

Towards the end of last season it was being reported we’d paid £15m for him rather than the £20m reported when we first signed him.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:09 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:01 pm
Towards the end of last season it was being reported we’d paid £15m for him rather than the £20m reported when we first signed him.
Somewhere between 12-14m upfront

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by ClaretAL » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:20 pm

I presume he will have a release clause, if so the decision is for JT to decide who he will go to

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:21 pm

Team with the biggest pot taking the ****

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:22 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:21 pm
Team with the biggest pot taking the ****
I’m not sure they do, given PSR. It’s thought they have a very limited pot this summer and might even need to sell first.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by boyyanno » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:23 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:09 pm
Somewhere between 12-14m upfront
I've seen a few people say that but based on what? Most sources seem to say its 15m upfront with 4m add ons.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66262753

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:27 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:23 pm
I've seen a few people say that but based on what? Most sources seem to say its 15m upfront with 4m add ons.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66262753
LongsideClaret, who has got quite a lot right with bits and pieces on here, posted earlier he got told it was £12m upfront.

Fab Romano at the time said it was £14m + add ons.

https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/167 ... 02593?s=46

Alan Nixon, first to report our interest in Trafford last summer, said it was £13.7m upfront potentially rising to £17m.

Hence I went with the £12-14m.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Clovius Boofus » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:28 pm

I bet a pound to a penny that he wanted to play every match he was picked for, regardless of his form or results.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:33 pm

Get the bid up to 18m with another 5m in add ons and call it a deal and file it under wrong signing and wrong time and do all we can to keep muric next season
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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by beddie » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:35 pm

I read the two clubs has discussed it last week with a bid of £16m offered by Newcastle which we turned down as we’re looking for £20m. Another £4m is pocket change to Newcastle.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by bumba » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:39 pm

£15 million with Lewis Miley on a season loan and 25% sell on please

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Wokingclaret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:50 pm

Dropped by Burnley and rightly so, then picked by England. Differing messages and suspected then that he'd be moving on this summer.

Hope the lad reaches his potential, the Premier league was just too soon this season.
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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by IanMcL » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:56 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:32 pm
Hung out to dry last season. So unfair on him.
That sums it up.

Used when he should have integrated. Kept place, when should have been dropped - for his own sake.
Manager waited until crowd voiced displeasure, which undermined the lad.
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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:57 pm

I’m sure he’ll have a good future but to start him and keep playing him last season was just really really poor management. Hopefully Newcastle up their bid.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by burnmark » Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:00 pm

Fabrizio Romano saying that City have 20% sell on clause.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:03 pm

burnmark wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:00 pm
Fabrizio Romano saying that City have 20% sell on clause.
So, even if we only paid £15m, we need circa £19m just to stand still

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:05 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:03 pm
So, even if we only paid £15m, we need circa £19m just to stand still
Sell on clauses are usually based on a percentage of the 'profit'.
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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:40 pm

burnmark wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:00 pm
Fabrizio Romano saying that City have 20% sell on clause.
I believe longside when he says it’s 20% of profit, Romano says things like ‘madatory option to buy’ he has loose info and runs with it

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by roperclaret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:43 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:05 pm
Sell on clauses are usually based on a percentage of the 'profit'.
This

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Rowls » Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:44 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:09 pm
I still think he will be a top keeper as long as he is given time to mature, has a solid robust defence in front of him and is allowed to kick it long at times.
No doubt about it whatsoever in my mind. He'll benefit from bulking out but the lad will go far.

His confidence must have been shot to pieces with the suicidal football we played last year. But even in spite of all that he still kept us in numerous games and made countless great saves.
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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:47 pm

Remember - both the Trafford & Ramsey deals were complicated because of buy back clauses on top of everything else.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Carlos the Great » Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:50 pm

If Newcastle do manage to sign him .. I doubt very much he will start there as Number 1 ../ probably sensibly get him involved slowly

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by RickyBobby » Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:53 pm

They bid £15m, we want £20m, so we will sell him for £10.5m.
Exactly the same as we did with VK and Munich.
When it comes to negotiating the club are a joke.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by equinox » Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:55 pm

RickyBobby wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:53 pm
They bid £15m, we want £20m, so we will sell him for £10.5m.
Exactly the same as we did with VK and Munich.
When it comes to negotiating the club are a joke.
What's wrong with that?

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Claretitus » Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:20 pm

equinox wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:55 pm
[quote=RickyBobby post_id=2351049 time=<a href="tel:1717862022">1717862022</a> user_id=7447]
They bid £15m, we want £20m, so we will sell him for £10.5m.
Exactly the same as we did with VK and Munich.
When it comes to negotiating the club are a joke.
What's wrong with that?
[/quote]

Seriously? Did you do maths at school? I think he means we are a joke at negotiations as he’s intimidated we’d sell him for -£4.5M than they first bid.
Capich?
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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by warksclaret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:37 pm

With a good GK coach ie Billy Mercer or similar , and a bit of bulking out his physique,he could in 3-4 years be the best English keeper in the PL

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:40 pm

Carlos the Great wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:50 pm
If Newcastle do manage to sign him .. I doubt very much he will start there as Number 1 ../ probably sensibly get him involved slowly
Exactly how it should be with such a young goalkeeper. We got it so wrong

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by equinox » Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:41 pm

Claretitus wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:20 pm
What's wrong with that?
Seriously? Did you do maths at school? I think he means we are a joke at negotiations as he’s intimidated we’d sell him for -£4.5M than they first bid.
Capich?
[/quote]

I'm still struggling with the calculations, he's suggesting we'd accept an offer substantially less than what was offered?

Successful Wall Street investors, in his opinion, have and will continue to use this as their transfer template?

Is that what he's suggesting?

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by ClaretAL » Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:57 pm

Wow this board always offers up

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by JohnMac » Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:58 pm

If his release clause is £15m that is poor imo.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:10 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:58 pm
If his release clause is £15m that is poor imo.
We agreed a £57m buy back with city apparently. Very unlikely we also allowed anyone else to buy him for £15m.

If we had any release clause like that our whole model really is ****.
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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by equinox » Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:14 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:58 pm
If his release clause is £15m that is poor imo.
That's what successful business men do though.

Mr Patel buys his pot noodles from bookers for 38p takes his margin OFF and if asked at the till will possible go as low as 30p to get a purchase.

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by Vim Fuego » Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:15 pm

Given the context. Possibly the worst signing in the clubs history

Summed up our terrible season. I wish the lad well, hope he will have a good career. Somewhere else

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:18 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:10 pm
We agreed a £57m buy back with city apparently.
Wow. £57 million?

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:25 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:18 pm
Wow. £57 million?
That’s what was reported.

https://www.manchestercity.news/complet ... k-for-57m/

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by equinox » Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:45 pm

All this #reported# #apparently#

Where's the shaky, semi clenched fist emoji?

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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by dougcollins » Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:45 pm

It's not like we're going to let our England International keeper go to Newcastle for next to nothing, is it?
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Re: Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

Post by equinox » Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:47 pm

...but Muric is better...
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