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ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:59 pm
by ClaretTony
The catching up continues with this article on the appointment of the new coach
See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/henrik-jen ... hing-staff
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:54 pm
by Elizabeth
Unusual for no comments 2 hours after an admin post. Maybe it’s the decent weather , maybe it’s the Euros , or maybe it’s because none of us have a clue what’s going on at the club
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:06 pm
by TheFamilyCat
I don't know if I missed a discussion on this on the new manager thread, which I can't be arsed going back over.
You are suggesting that Kompany offered Jensen the job (presumably to replace Bellamy who "left"). Now we have Bellamy and his planned replacement but no permanent head coach/manager?
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:15 pm
by ksrclaret
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:54 pm
Unusual for no comments 2 hours after an admin post. Maybe it’s the decent weather , maybe it’s the Euros , or maybe it’s because
none of us have a clue what’s going on at the club
And that probably includes those supposedly in charge, by the looks of things.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:35 pm
by Elizabeth
ksrclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:15 pm
And that probably includes those supposedly in charge, by the looks of things.
Who else have we to trust?
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:41 pm
by bfcjg
Hope it works out well for him, must be strange for him when Kompany has left. That said he must have had some reassurances regarding his role here.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:56 pm
by ClaretTony
TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:06 pm
I don't know if I missed a discussion on this on the new manager thread, which I can't be arsed going back over.
You are suggesting that Kompany offered Jensen the job (presumably to replace Bellamy who "left"). Now we have Bellamy and his planned replacement but no permanent head coach/manager?
That sort of sums it up.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:02 pm
by boatshed bill
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:54 pm
Unusual for no comments 2 hours after an admin post. Maybe it’s the decent weather , maybe it’s the Euros , or maybe it’s because none of us have a clue what’s going on at the club
There's an interview on the club's site. He seems like a decent sort and keen to join.
Problem is that there's no stick to hit him (or the board) with so he's of no particular interest on here.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:50 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Off down the rabbit hole we go, eh.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:07 pm
by ClaretTony
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:02 pm
There's an interview on the club's site. He seems like a decent sort and keen to join.
Problem is that there's no stick to hit him (or the board) with so he's of no particular interest on here.
That’s not true at all and he’s been discussed on another thread. He’s in a strange position though having initially accepted the role as Kimpany’s assistant.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:22 pm
by boatshed bill
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:07 pm
That’s not true at all and he’s been discussed on another thread. He’s in a strange position though having initially accepted the role as Kimpany’s assistant.
Apologies, I haven't seen the other thread.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:25 pm
by boatshed bill
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:22 pm
Apologies, I haven't seen the other thread.
Any chance someone could point me to the relevant thread? Thanks in advance.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:28 pm
by ClaretTony
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:25 pm
Any chance someone could point me to the relevant thread? Thanks in advance.
Somewhere on the next manager thread when his name was mentioned.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:30 pm
by Since62
Nothing against Jensen, I know nothing about him but how this happens without a manager in place is beyond me. What’s going on?
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:30 pm
by boatshed bill
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:28 pm
Somewhere on the next manager thread when his name was mentioned.
Thanks. I'll have a trawl through.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:34 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
This seems to be a confusing buggers muddle just before we appoint a new manager.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:42 pm
by Rileybobs
Doesn’t seem too confusing to me. We hire an assistant head coach, and then the head coach leaves.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:49 pm
by groove
Since62 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:30 pm
Nothing against Jensen, I know nothing about him but how this happens without a manager in place is beyond me. What’s going on?
Sounds like it's contractual. Jensen signs under VK, has to wait a few weeks for a work permit. By the time that comes through VK has gone. It is bizarre, in keeping with the the rest of the recruitment this last 12 months to be fair.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:52 pm
by Elizabeth
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:42 pm
Doesn’t seem too confusing to me. We hire an assistant head coach, and then the head coach leaves.
That’s the easy bit. Tell us where it leaves us from here
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:54 pm
by Rileybobs
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:52 pm
That’s the easy bit. Tell us where it leaves us from here
With an assistant coach and no head coach.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:55 pm
by Elizabeth
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:54 pm
With an assistant coach and no head coach.
Does that feel comfortable to you ?
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:56 pm
by groove
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:54 pm
With an assistant coach and no head coach.
What if our new manager/head coach wants his own assistant? Does he just have to put up with the one we've already given him?
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:57 pm
by Rileybobs
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:55 pm
Does that feel comfortable to you ?
It’s not ideal is it. But I don’t find it a confusing or bizarre situation.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:59 pm
by Rileybobs
groove wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:56 pm
What if our new manager/head coach wants his own assistant? Does he just have to put up with the one we've already given him?
I presume the two options are that a new head coach has to work with Jensen, or we terminate Jensen’s contract. Or perhaps the new head coach will have two assistants.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:00 pm
by groove
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:59 pm
I presume the two options are that a new head coach has to work with Jensen, or we terminate Jensen’s contract. Or perhaps the new head coach will have two assistants.
I think the new head coach might find that bizarre.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:00 pm
by Elizabeth
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:57 pm
It’s not ideal is it. But I don’t find it a confusing or bizarre situation.
No it’s not. I’m in my Seventies and watched Burnley and been interested in football for at least 6 decades and I’m struggling to remember this horse before the cart scenario
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:02 pm
by Rileybobs
groove wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:00 pm
I think the new head coach might find that bizarre.
I don’t think it’s unheard of for a new head coach to work with a number two who’s already at the club.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:02 pm
by Rileybobs
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:00 pm
No it’s not. I’m in my Seventies and watched Burnley and been interested in football for at least 6 decades and I’m struggling to remember this horse before the cart scenario
Surely there have been Burnley managers over the years who haven’t brought their own assistant with them?
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:03 pm
by Elizabeth
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:00 pm
No it’s not. I’m in my Seventies and watched Burnley and been interested in football for at least 6 decades and I’m struggling to remember this horse before the cart scenario
Might be cart before the horse . Someone tell me
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:04 pm
by Elizabeth
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:02 pm
Surely there have been Burnley managers over the years who haven’t brought their own assistant with them?
Got to be but can’t remember the assistant turning up before the manager, can you ?
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:05 pm
by ClaretTony
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:54 pm
With an assistant coach and no head coach.
The issue comes if the new manager/head coach wants his own men in place
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:06 pm
by Rileybobs
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:04 pm
Got to be but can’t remember the assistant turning up before the manager, can you ?
Not a few weeks before, no.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:07 pm
by ClaretTony
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:02 pm
Surely there have been Burnley managers over the years who haven’t brought their own assistant with them?
A long time ago - in the Bob Lord days when we always promoted from within
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:07 pm
by Rileybobs
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:05 pm
The issue comes if the new manager/head coach wants his own men in place
Of course. This will no doubt have put some potential candidates off.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:10 pm
by groove
Steve Davis was retained when Coyle got the job, but as a coach, not as an assistant I think.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:13 pm
by ClaretTony
groove wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:10 pm
Steve Davis was retained when Coyle got the job, but as a coach, not as an assistant I think.
He brought in Sandy Stewart who is still working with him now in India.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:52 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Sorry if I've missed something but what is the basis for the belief that he's Kompany's appointment?
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:00 pm
by Goliath
Could we have 2 assistants. It wouldn't surprise me in this scenario. I think Everton might have something similar under Ancelotti
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:10 pm
by boatshed bill
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:13 pm
He brought in Sandie Stewart who is still working with him now in India.
Didn't Barry Kilby offer a job to SD regardless of who got appointed as manager?
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:14 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
Last season kompany had Bellamy and Jackson on a similar level even thought Bellamy was by title assistant manager.
Bellamy involved with the attacking side
Jackson involved with the defensive side
Then there was also N'Galula Geers and creimers (I think that’s his name) who were also first team coaches and pretty involved. 2 of them have now gone to Bayern.
GK coach left
We still have the set piece coach here
But in theory a new manager/head coach still has 3 coaching spots to fill
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:27 pm
by ClaretTony
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:10 pm
Didn't Barry Kilby offer a job to SD regardless of who got appointed as manager?
Not as I’m aware but Coyle only brought Stewart with him and Dave Kevan left just before Steve Cotterill.
Since then,
Brian Laws brought in Russ Wilcox, Stuart Gray & Billy Mercer.
Eddie Howe brought in Jason Tindall & Simon Weatherstone
Sean Dyche brought in Ian Woan & Tony Loughlan
Vincent Kompany brought in Craig Bellamy and a few others
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:47 pm
by groove
123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:14 pm
We still have the set piece coach here
Wonder why he hasn't gone to Bayern
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:58 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
groove wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:47 pm
Wonder why he hasn't gone to Bayern
The only correct decision he’s made in 12 months
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:31 am
by MT03ALG
Do we know how many of the approx. 20 assistant managers/coaches/match analysts etc. have been retained following the departure of Kompany ?
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:34 am
by Vegas Claret
Good appointment, he will know the Scandinavian market well. I'm not remotely bothered if he was Kompany's man or not.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:39 am
by Fretters
Small error at the top Tony, should be from 2003.
Or until 2013
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:58 am
by ClaretTony
Fretters wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:39 am
Small error at the top Tony, should be from 2003.
Or until 2013
Corrected it - 2013 was when he left
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:02 am
by HahaYeah
TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:52 pm
Sorry if I've missed something but what is the basis for the belief that he's Kompany's appointment?
Good question.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:03 am
by ClaretTony
MT03ALG wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:31 am
Do we know how many of the approx. 20 assistant managers/coaches/match analysts etc. have been retained following the departure of Kompany ?
Jelle ten Rouwelaar left to go to Ajax while Bram Geers, Floribert Ngalula and Rodyse Munienge have gone with him to Bayern Munich.
Bellamy was on his way but quickly returned and I assume all the others are still here with Jensen now added.
Re: ARTICLE: Henrik Jensen joins coaching staff
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:06 am
by BleedingClaret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:03 am
Jelle ten Rouwelaar left to go to Ajax while Bram Geers, Floribert Ngalula and Rodyse Munienge have gone with him to Bayern Munich.
Bellamy was on his way but quickly returned and I assume all the others are still here with Jensen now added.
Please tell me the set piece coach went with him
