press

[yTib]

sick to death of this buzzword.

[AmbleClaret]

Just posted the exact same thing on our family group. What did pundits talk about before the high press?

[elwaclaret]

Been around since the fourteenth century, not sure it counts as a buzzword.

[Burnley Ace]

MSM is another Thats overused

[Rick_Muller]

I just counted 8 uses of the word “press” in about 30 seconds of commentary, and it had nothing to do with what was happening on the pitch. Someone’s had a bet on…

[boatshed bill]

Just posted the exact same thing on our family group. What did pundits talk about before the high press?

The low block?

[bfcjg]

There is so much coaching terminology now it's getting ridiculous .

[boatshed bill]

Lee Dixon?????

[AmbleClaret]

I've "pressed" the off button, absolutely dire.

[Ashingtonclaret46]

Watch it with the sound muted and listen to some great vinyl --it doesn't matter if the game is crap --just enjoy the music. You have to get some pleasure when suffering England matches.

[TheFamilyCat]

There is so much coaching terminology now it's getting ridiculous .

Just stick the ball in the old onion bag.

[kentonclaret]

It’s also the buzz word at Thatcher’s Cider.

[Nonayforever]

Just stick the ball in the old onion bag.

Most managers / pundits / owners have forgotten that is what the game is all about.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

I suspect they would talk about it a bit less if England could actually do it well

[agreenwood]

Imagine there being new words to describe things.

Ye will thow nay catcheth I uttering themeth.

[jdrobbo]

Imagine there being new words to describe things.

Ye will thow nay catcheth I uttering themeth.

“Top o’t Dee”

[dsr]

Most managers / pundits / owners have forgotten that is what the game is all about.

That's all too true. Towards the back end of the season Kompany kept talking about how we had been the better side in games. It can only because he was thinking that the passing in the middle of the field was the important bit, and the scoring of goals and prevention of the opposition scoring is a triviality.

[boatshed bill]

Tamara?

[Rick_Muller]

That's all too true. Towards the back end of the season Kompany kept talking about how we had been the better side in games. It can only because he was thinking that the passing in the middle of the field was the important bit, and the scoring of goals and prevention of the opposition scoring is a triviality.

When one of the identikit Peps works out that the spherical thing needs to go into the net they’ll be successful.

[NottsClaret]

I came off the Turf really disappointed after beating Liverpool 2-0 in 2016 because our XG was awful, we didn’t ‘play through thirds’ and it was more low block than gegenpress.

[chekhov]

Most managers / pundits / owners have forgotten that is what the game is all about.

There were more goals scored last season in the premier league than in any other season. And not just a few, 200 more goals. Say what you like about modern tactics and whatever but football today is as entertaining as its ever been.

[CaptJohn]

Tamara?

Wasn't she an Eastern European athlete weightlifter, shot putter or something? Most likely long gone due to steroid abuse.

[Nonayforever]

There were more goals scored last season in the premier league than in any other season. And not just a few, 200 more goals. Say what you like about modern tactics and whatever but football today is as entertaining as its ever been.

I would imagine that is because of the widening gulf in money.
The less affluent clubs being on the wrong end of a tubbing most weeks.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I am glad I grew up watching football without the need of places like twitter to educate me and tell me what to say.

Press
Break the lines
Create an overload
Pivot / Double pivot
Through the 3rds

All used by dullards who seem incapable of thinking for themselves and repeat the current trendy coaching phrase. It is boring enough when you hear ex players doing this it is mind numbing when supporters do it.

[Dark Cloud]

I am glad I grew up watching football without the need of places like twitter to educate me and tell me what to say.

Press
Break the lines
Create an overload
Pivot / Double pivot
Through the 3rds

All used by dullards who seem incapable of thinking for themselves and repeat the current trendy coaching phrase. It is boring enough when you hear ex players doing this it is mind numbing when supporters do it.

Don't forget "in behind" and "false 9". More utterly vacuous drivel.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Don't forget "in behind" and "false 9". More utterly vacuous drivel.

The false 9 and he plays as a 6 or 8

Weird how the same bores never say the keeper plays as a 1 or the right back a 2.

[bfcjg]

Transition play.

[RVclaret]

Imagine getting triggered by new words. Proper old man yells at cloud stuff.

[ksrclaret]

This thread is giving me insecure set 3 kids trying to make fun of the set 1 kids for enjoying learning stuff vibes.

Come on people, learning new things is actually quite good. Give it a go!

[RicardoMontalban]

Imagine getting triggered by new words. Proper old man yells at cloud stuff.

Old dogs, new tricks etc.

[BleedingClaret]

The false 9 and he plays as a 6 or 8

Weird how the same bores never say the keeper plays as a 1 or the right back a 2.

Muric plays as a 5

[Caernarfon_Claret]

There were more goals scored last season in the premier league than in any other season. And not just a few, 200 more goals. Say what you like about modern tactics and whatever but football today is as entertaining as its ever been.

So just fractionally over one extra goal every other game played (200/380) or 0.52 ish of a goal per game.

[South West Claret.]

“Challenges”can people in general stop using that word in the media what seems to be used in every other sentence.

Challenges seems to be the new “extraordinary”

[dsr]

There were more goals scored last season in the premier league than in any other season. And not just a few, 200 more goals. Say what you like about modern tactics and whatever but football today is as entertaining as its ever been.

Absolutely. I only wish football had been invented before 1992 so I would have had something to watch in my childhood.

If goals per game is the measure of entertainment, last season was the 33rd most entertaining.

(PS - 162 more goals.)

https://www.worldfootball.net/stats/eng ... -league/1/

[boatshed bill]

Wasn't she an Eastern European athlete weightlifter, shot putter or something? Most likely long gone due to steroid abuse.

Yes, that's the chap... record holder back then.

[Spijed]

sick to death of this buzzword.

Likewise, with players referring to numbers rather than positions.

Back in the day players were known as strikers or centre forwards. Now its a number 10 or false 9 for example.

Midfield players were simply known as Midfielders. Now it's a number 6 or number 8 depending on how high up the pitch you are. Why can't players just say they are playing further up the pitch rather than saying they are a number 8. Declan Rice is guilty of that.

[South West Claret.]

While we’re on the subject of annoying words used in the media how come “shows” have now replaced “programmes. on the BBC radio?

Not about de-skilling by any chance is it?

[martin_p]

Likewise, with players referring to numbers rather than positions.

Back in the day players were known as strikers or centre forwards. Now its a number 10 or false 9 for example.

Midfield players were simply known as Midfielders. Now it's a number 6 or number 8 depending on how high up the pitch you are. Why can't players just say they are playing further up the pitch rather than saying they are a number 8. Declan Rice is guilty of that.

Which is ironic given the actual numbers on shirts have been meaningless for years now.

[dsr]

While we’re on the subject of annoying words used in the media how come “shows” have now replaced “programmes. on the BBC radio?

Not about de-skilling by any chance is it?

If we extend it to cricket, when did it become compulsory to say "long levers"? And what does "bowled it into the pitch" actually mean?

[martin_p]

While we’re on the subject of annoying words used in the media how come “shows” have now replaced “programmes. on the BBC radio?

Not about de-skilling by any chance is it?

You mean modern stuff like ‘The Goon Show’?

[South West Claret.]

You mean modern stuff like ‘The Goon Show’?

No not that one all the others though.

[South West Claret.]

Nearly forgot who decided starting a sentence with “so” instead “well” was needed which seems to be the case so often now.

[jojomk1]

Our problem last season was that we could not effectively transition between the low block and the high press
As for a false No 9 - we had loads of them up front hence the lack of goals

[TheFamilyCat]

Likewise, with players referring to numbers rather than positions.

Back in the day players were known as strikers or centre forwards. Now its a number 10 or false 9 for example.

Midfield players were simply known as Midfielders. Now it's a number 6 or number 8 depending on how high up the pitch you are. Why can't players just say they are playing further up the pitch rather than saying they are a number 8. Declan Rice is guilty of that.

Isn't this reverting back to "old" terminology in some ways, when the numbers were 1-11 and the number reflected the position you were playing, with half-backs, inside forwards and such like?

[Walton]

I am glad I grew up watching football without the need of places like twitter to educate me and tell me what to say.

Press
Break the lines
Create an overload
Pivot / Double pivot
Through the 3rds

All used by dullards who seem incapable of thinking for themselves and repeat the current trendy coaching phrase. It is boring enough when you hear ex players doing this it is mind numbing when supporters do it.

Out of interest, which phrases would you use to describe those situations?

[Dark Cloud]

Out of interest, which phrases would you use to describe those situations?

I'd suggest "people playing football" would pretty much cover all of them and probably did for an awful lot of years.

[Hipper]

Watch it with the sound muted and listen to some great vinyl --it doesn't matter if the game is crap --just enjoy the music. You have to get some pleasure when suffering England matches.

I'm not interested in watching cricket. Years ago for some reason (possibly some sort of strike) there was no commentary - just music was played. It was actually quite enjoyable.

For TV football I always turn the sound off. Shame I can't hear the atmosphere but what the commentators/pundits are of no interest to me. In fact they spoil the game.

For England matches, after seeing the first two games - only the first halves - I won't be watching them again.

[TheFamilyCat]

Bring back Ron Manager. Isn’t it? Wasn't it? Marvellous.

[dsr]

I am glad I grew up watching football without the need of places like twitter to educate me and tell me what to say.

Press
Break the lines
Create an overload
Pivot / Double pivot
Through the 3rds

All used by dullards who seem incapable of thinking for themselves and repeat the current trendy coaching phrase. It is boring enough when you hear ex players doing this it is mind numbing when supporters do it.

I don't disagree in general, but "pivot" isn't new. It was used to describe the midfield player that ran the show (a "doughty pivot") in Jennings Goes to School, Anthony Buckeridge, published 1950.

[Bin Ont Turf]

I struggle with 'counter press'.

Not quite sure what it means.