Not everyone's cup of tea, but what a tribute to him on centre court, fantastic player who in any other era would surely of won more majors, to compete with arguably the 3 greatest tennis players ever and win 3 majors I take my hat off to him

Yep, great competitor, dogged by injuries, but to win three slams in this era shows his quality.

Just can’t bring myself to listen to him drone on tho…

The greatest British sportsman of all time and a fantastic person at the same time.

Agree a very fitting tribute but not sure the Beeb got it right using Radiohead's song Creep as the backing track to the video tribute to him.

I’m not the biggest tennis fan but he’s had a tremendous career in the most difficult era.

At one point I didn’t think he’d ever have the stamina to win a grand slam in the era he was playing in but he certainly proved his doubters wrong.

Reminds me a little of that Monty Python sketch.

......well I'm an accountant and consequently too boring to be of interest.

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:26 pm

Reminds me a little of that Monty Python sketch.

......well I'm an accountant and consequently too boring to be of interest.

He's far from boring.

Goliath wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:06 pm

He's far from boring.

He is also far from being the greatest british sportsman of all time

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:08 pm

He is also far from being the greatest british sportsman of all time

11 grand slam finals, 2 Olympic singles gold medals and a Davis Cup, all whist in an era with the 3 best players of all time. An example to kids everywhere about the dedication it takes to get to the top.

Goliath wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:28 pm

11 grand slam finals, 2 Olympic singles gold medals and a Davis Cup, all whist in an era with the 3 best players of all time. An example to kids everywhere about the dedication it takes to get to the top.

Seconded. Also 46 ATP tournament wins.

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:08 pm

He is also far from being the greatest british sportsman of all time

It could be debated endlessly about who is GB's greatest sportsman of all time. But one thing is for sure, Murray isn't 'far' from being it - he's right up there and would be on any sensible shortlist for such a debate. His efforts and achievements have been outstanding.

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:08 pm

He is also far from being the greatest british sportsman of all time

certainly one of them, he'd be in my top 3 taking away anyone who participated in team events

He is one of the greats, but there are others who could make a claim to that title.

Adam Peaty, Lewis Hamilton, Rachael Heyhoe Flint and Ben Ainsley are examples of other people who could claim the greatest title, but for this week while Wimbledon is on show Andy can have it for now.

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:44 am

He is one of the greats, but there are others who could make a claim to that title.

Adam Peaty, Lewis Hamilton, Rachael Heyhoe Flint and Ben Ainsley are examples of other people who could claim the greatest title, but for this week while Wimbledon is on show Andy can have it for now.

Phil Taylor as well

To win 3 grand slams whilst Federer, Nadal and Novak are about is one thing. To have 2 of those at Wimbledon is something else. Especially the first one. 70+ years since a British male won it is imho the greatest sporting achievement by a brit. There’s no sport where an individual has so much expectation, anticipation, hope and everything else solely on him. He’s alone out there for 4, 5, 6 hours.

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:44 am

He is one of the greats, but there are others who could make a claim to that title.

Adam Peaty, Lewis Hamilton, Rachael Heyhoe Flint and Ben Ainsley are examples of other people who could claim the greatest title, but for this week while Wimbledon is on show Andy can have it for now.

Redgrave, Pinsent, Hoy, Kenny, Faldo. Sessions.

And of course Mark Cavendish too!

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... hp?t=76392

And Ronnie

I am amazed that his body is able to put up with all the operations he’s had over the years.

He might not be the most engaging man in front of the cameras, but he's the greatest British Tennis Player of all time.
He also spent all those years winning slam titles in the strongest era ever, in mens tennis.
I like watching tennis & feel privileged to have watched him winning Wimbledon.
Wonderful sportsman.

It was unfortunate that his injuries really started to kick in just after he had become number 1 in the world. He was on a par with the others at his peak and would probably have won more slams. It is also thanks to all the work he has put into British tennis that we have all these youngsters coming through. They have been very impressive this Wimbledon and are flying up the rankings. Let's hope they kick on. We seem to have a bit of strength in depth now as well with 15 year old Hannah Klugman looking like she could be the real deal, if she carries on the way she is going.

The reason most people don't like him is because he's Scottish. That's the sad truth.

ecc wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:28 pm

The reason most people don't like him is because he's Scottish. That's the sad truth.

Only when he loses, he's British when he wins.

ecc wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:28 pm

The reason most people don't like him is because he's Scottish. That's the sad truth.

Beat me to it. I think he's great, a very funny guy on the sly, too.

41 weeks ranked number 1 in the world, ahead of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.

Commy wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:16 pm

It was unfortunate that his injuries really started to kick in just after he had become number 1 in the world. He was on a par with the others at his peak and would probably have won more slams. It is also thanks to all the work he has put into British tennis that we have all these youngsters coming through.

I remember his quest to accumulate enough points by the end of the year, to reach number one. It was possible if he entered tournament after tournament, without rest and win them or close to.

By the end, he was struggling physically. I suspect that did the damage.

Obnoxious attention seeking dick

Vincent'sCap wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:10 pm

Obnoxious attention seeking dick

Who is? surely not AM?

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:04 pm

I remember his quest to accumulate enough points by the end of the year, to reach number one. It was possible if he entered tournament after tournament, without rest and win them or close to.

By the end, he was struggling physically. I suspect that did the damage.

That was his absolute peak. He won basically wvery tournament If I remember rightly to achieve what had looked like an impossible task.

Vincent'sCap wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:10 pm

Obnoxious attention seeking dick

Always one!

What a huge shame. Radacanu has a little stiffness in her wrist, so ends Andy Murray's career in an instant.

That is appalling. She agreed to play with him and is mot injured. Her almost partner and all the champions, play with pain and injury. Dropping out for stiffness is snubbing a legend without reason.

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:01 pm

What a huge shame. Radacanu has a little stiffness in her wrist, so ends Andy Murray's career in an instant.

That is appalling. She agreed to play with him and is mot injured. Her almost partner and all the champions, play with pain and injury. Dropping out for stiffness is snubbing a legend without reason.

She has looked as good as anything in this tournament and perhaps unexpectedly has a real chance. She won't have any regrets standing AM up if she wins it. Big if though..

Goliath wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:23 pm

The greatest British sportsman of all time and a fantastic person at the same time.

Not a patch on Buster Motram

So sad for Andy's mother

Stanbill05 wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:57 am

She has looked as good as anything in this tournament and perhaps unexpectedly has a real chance. She won't have any regrets standing AM up if she wins it. Big if though..

Exactly, she's not there to play a part in an injured players fairy tale. I'm a big andy Murray fan but he shouldn't be playing, he's nakered

Been a brilliant and long career, in his prime an unstoppable beast on any surface , had around 8 yrs of incredible consistency. His sheer will to win was inspirational ,and in an era of 3 alltime greats .

The injuries caught up though ,and he simply couldn’t let go. The last couple of yrs ,it’s been a sad sight to see a great like Murray reduced to seemingly endless stage managed wild card defeats from players not fit to lace his shoes . His mum’s got some neck though moaning at Raducanu pulling out of their mixed doubles to protect her wrist , when Andy himself pulled out of the singles to erm “ protect his wrist “ A well deserved retirement awaits .

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:59 pm

Always one!

Mummy's boy.

I think Radacanu is a very good player but she does seem to bit a bit ready with the excuses. I believe she has an attitude problem. I hope she does well but you can bet if she doesn’t it will be ‘because’. Can’t help feeling her US win came a little too early and gave her too much to follow.
Murray has been a true great in an era of even bigger greats and has done amazingly well to achieve what he has. Unfortunately he does seem to have been a victim sometimes of the ‘British when he’s winning and Scottish when he doesn’t’.
He’s been a true great in my opinion.

houseboy wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:10 am

I think Radacanu is a very good player but she does seem to bit a bit ready with the excuses. I believe she has an attitude problem. I hope she does well but you can bet if she doesn’t it will be ‘because’. Can’t help feeling her US win came a little too early and gave her too much to follow.
Murray has been a true great in an era of even bigger greats and has done amazingly well to achieve what he has. Unfortunately he does seem to have been a victim sometimes of the ‘British when he’s winning and Scottish when he doesn’t’.
He’s been a true great in my opinion.

Radacanu made a wise decision withdrawing from yesterday’s mixed doubles given she's due to play a singles match today when she's looking in excellent form. The type of decision Murray, who is a true great as you say, would have probably in the same position.

Tbh I watched Murray's farewell the other day after the doubles match. It's as if they knew that could be his last match anyway. His back looked crocked. Not sure why there is a big fuss over this.

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:14 am

Exactly, she's not there to play a part in an injured players fairy tale. I'm a big andy Murray fan but he shouldn't be playing, he's nakered

If she felt fully fit and in with a chance, then she should have said so and declined the offer. Every woman tennis player in the world would have been proud to accept that honour.

Radacanu is not injured!

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:38 am

If she felt fully fit and in with a chance, then she should have said so and declined the offer. Every woman tennis player in the world would have been proud to accept that honour.

Radacanu is not injured!

Was Andrew’s mum astonished when he pulled out the singles.

If he isn’t injured why did he pull out ? His mum has been an absolute turd with her comments.

Radacanu is right to focus on her individual progress rather than a self indulgent farewell knockabout

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:38 am

If she felt fully fit and in with a chance, then she should have said so and declined the offer. Every woman tennis player in the world would have been proud to accept that honour.

Radacanu is not injured!

How on earth do you know that ?
Have you seen her injury record these last few years ?

Of course when they agreed there would have been a chance that either one of them would pull out with an injury - and Murray was every bit of likely to be the one to pull out as Radacanu.

Players like Murray and Radacanu are surrounded by huge teams of advisors, physios etc. Radacanu is at a very different point of her career than Murray. If there was any risk that playing in a pretty meaningless mixed doubles game would impact her singles performance or result in injury then there is no way that her or her team would take that risk. With Murray he is right at the end of his fantastic career and clearly not that bothered that he was playing in the mixed doubles already injured himself.

I know you would probably ask why did she agree to play the mixed doubles in the first place ? Pretty simple answer is because she thought she could cope with the singles and the mixed doubles when she agreed to it. But let’s not pretend which we don’t know which was her priority - in exactly the same way it would have been for Andy Murray if the position was reversed.

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:38 am

If she felt fully fit and in with a chance, then she should have said so and declined the offer. Every woman tennis player in the world would have been proud to accept that honour.

Radacanu is not injured!

As Judy Murray has said, the scheduling will have rightly played a big part in Radacanu's correct decision. Playing yesterday and today when her priority, by a country mile, must be on the singles.

The question we have to ask is when Andy Murray was competing in the Mens Singles at Wimbledon, as a top seeded player with a prospect of reaching the final stages, was he also competing in the Mens and Mixed Doubles? Probably not. The scheduling of matches makes it extremely difficult. Raducanu has also missed a great deal of tennis over the past couple of years with injury and has had operations on her ankle(s) and wrist(s). When she received a text asking her to play mixed doubles with Andy Murray it probably required an immediate reply and not something to mull over for 24/48 hours. I recall Clare Balding getting herself all giddy during coverage saying “Emma received a text from Andy and of course she said yes how could she turn him down.”
Raducanu has probably surpassed her own expectations at this Wimbledon and it’s good to see her playing well again and enjoying her tennis.

I'm not a tennis fan and basically just watch a bit of Wimbledon, although I did watch Raducanu's US final. My question for tennis fans is does anybody actually care about the mixed doubles? It seems a bit pointless and that she would be crazy to risk the slightest injury to play in it.

Not many top ranked singles players compete in or excel at doubles but there are exceptions Navratilova (women’s doubles) and McEnroe (Men’s doubles) but very often it is a specialist event dominated by pairings such as the Bryan brothers.

I don’t like Raducanu as I think, unlike Andy Murray, she isn’t very sincere and seems to have an attitude problem.

That being said, Judy Murray has since clarified that she was being sarcastic with her remarks about Raducanu pulling out, and that it was the correct decision.

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:56 am

As Judy Murray has said, the scheduling will have rightly played a big part in Radacanu's correct decision. Playing yesterday and today when her priority, by a country mile, must be on the singles.

Well she might still be in the tournament, if she had played the mixed!

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:04 pm

Well she might still be in the tournament, if she had played the mixed!

nobody is interested in mixed doubles though, lets be honest