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RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:42 am
by burnley007
Ruud has been confirmed at Utd.
He's just another coach.
Why? Why turn down a manager's job to be a nobody?? Bizarre decision.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 47djzzeezo
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:44 am
by TopCat
His loss.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:44 am
by Burnley1989
A nobody
One of the world's greatest ever strikers, coaching at one of the world's biggest clubs.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:46 am
by Clive 1960
money and ambition to be the next utd manager but you think why not give it a go at Burnley and if he did well he might still get the chance at utd or another club but it's all about timing...
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:48 am
by beddie
Bottler.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:49 am
by NewClaret
FWIW I heard we turned him down at second interview stage.
I was told he wanted far too much control of budget, signings, coaching staff and we wanted to do things differently.
Real shame in my view as I’d have loved RVN here. A risk but one I would have taken.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:49 am
by eastcoastclaret
Was he actually ever offered the Burnley job though?
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:51 am
by ClaretTony
There is no evidence that he did turn us down
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:56 am
by randomclaret2
NewClaret wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:49 am
FWIW I heard we turned him down at second interview stage.
I was told he wanted far too much control of budget, signings, coaching staff and we wanted to do things differently.
Real shame in my view as I’d have loved RVN here. A risk but one I would have taken.
They seemed happy for VK to do all that
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:59 am
by Bosscat
randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:56 am
They seemed happy for VK to do all that
Maybe thats why ... gave VK too much
once bitten twice shy and all that
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:59 am
by NewClaret
randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:56 am
They seemed happy for VK to do all that
Well I don’t personally think he had the control people think, but they very definitely have taken a different direction now.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:59 am
by martin_p
randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:56 am
They seemed happy for VK to do all that
And the result was last season. Once bitten…….
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:04 am
by Poulton-le-Claret
Waiting for those dead man's shoes.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:11 am
by randomclaret2
Indeed...lets hope the new approach works, or do they revert to the Kompany model for the next man
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:18 am
by Boss Hogg
It’s just lazy journalism saying he turned us down. He probably wasn’t aligned with what the board wanted as mentioned above.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:25 am
by bfcjg
Nearly every one of the applicants we rejected have said they turned us down, it maintains their brand.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:27 am
by warksclaret
And its probable that RVN is now accountable on a day to day basis to Steve McClaren who has been made "senior coach". How inspiring for him
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:27 am
by TheFamilyCat
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:51 am
There is no evidence that he did turn us down
There's no evidence for a lot of claims made on this board.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:39 am
by bfcjg
Can you imagine if we'd have signed him ? It would be the Kompany circus again,camera crews following the ex Man U idol,all about him etc, Parker though is quite refreshing head down and working,little outside noise and distraction.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:45 am
by Casper2
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:51 am
There is no evidence that he did turn us down
Is there evidence we offered him the job
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:47 am
by ClaretTony
Casper2 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:45 am
Is there evidence we offered him the job
None at all
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:50 am
by Lip
Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:44 am
A nobody
One of the world's greatest ever strikers, coaching at one of the world's biggest clubs.
And most hated.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:51 am
by agreenwood
No doubt his agent peddled the idea that he turned us and other clubs down in favour of Man U. Makes him look good in the eyes of United fans and shows the world that there was lots of interest in him.
In reality United was possibly the only offer he’s had all summer.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:37 am
by aggi
Out of the names we were linked with I could never really fathom why people were so excited by RVN. He had one OK season at PSV, fell out with the owners and players and quit.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:47 am
by chekhov
warksclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:27 am
And its probable that RVN is now accountable on a day to day basis to Steve McClaren who has been made "senior coach". How inspiring for him
Don’t you knock McClaren. He knows more about carpets than you ever will.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:49 am
by ŽižkovClaret
We would have been hiking boots, he's gone for loafers
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:18 pm
by beddie
aggi wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:37 am
Out of the names we were linked with I could never really fathom why people were so excited by RVN. He had one OK season at PSV, fell out with the owners and players and quit.
Martin Keown doesn’t have a lot of time for him either.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:22 pm
by warksclaret
chekhov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:47 am
Don’t you knock McClaren. He knows more about carpets than you ever will.
.......and brollies
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:24 pm
by claretburns
Nistelrooy will be in charge of United by Christmas.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:28 pm
by ecc
warksclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:27 am
And its probable that RVN is now accountable on a day to day basis to Steve McClaren who has been made "senior coach". How inspiring for him
McClaren's agent is the best in the business.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:52 pm
by Venkys4eva
How do you know he was offered the job? Perhaps we turned him down.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:31 pm
by bart_claret
He obviously wasn't the most beautiful girl in town material.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:42 pm
by blatherwickstattoos
I don’t think he’d have turned us down. More likely we didn’t go with him
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:32 pm
by Benson
blatherwickstattoos wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:42 pm
I don’t think he’d have turned us down. More likely we didn’t go with him
Seeing you say that convinces me that he did actually turn us down.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:38 pm
by aclaretinstevenage
Maybe he's more comfortable in a supporting role rather than being the top man while still earning plenty!
Or perhaps he failed at the interview with Mr Pace...........if any such thing ever took place!
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:43 pm
by dougcollins
Probably bring paid more to put cones out.
Re: RVN - why??
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:48 pm
by blatherwickstattoos
Benson wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:32 pm
Seeing you say that convinces me that he did actually turn us down.
Just can’t see him turning us down to coach a team.
once bitten twice shy and all that