Just seen the video of him shouting at JBG. It’s well documented about my thoughts of the bloke as manager. So happy he’s away from the club now.

Anyone willing to admit they were wrong about him?

An unbelievable first season with us. Ballsed last season up, although it still would’ve been difficult to survive.

Looked like a serial winner that wasn’t used to losing with his outburst at JBG, which was out of order.

I still wish him well.

Depends what you mean by wrong.

If you mean have I changed my mind after learning far more about his approach and the divides in the camp last season? Yes, absolutely I have.

Was I wrong at the time continue to support a manager who had given us the best season I'd ever seen, before learning much more about what was going on behind the scenes? Not sure about that.

ArmchairDetective wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:25 pm

Depends what you mean by wrong.

If you mean have I changed my mind after learning far more about his approach and the divides in the camp last season? Yes, absolutely I have.

Was I wrong at the time continue to support a manager who had given us the best season I'd ever seen, before learning much more about what was going on behind the scenes? Not sure about that.

Exactly that, changed your mind once you’d found out what an arrogant barm cake he is!

Pressure gets to people in different ways. Not always easy to control a temper in the most stressful situations. We had a brilliant time in his first season and a disastrous season last.

claretlegend wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:27 pm

Pressure gets to people in different ways. Not always easy to control a temper in the most stressful situations. We had a brilliant time in his first season and a disastrous season last.

Can see why morale was so low…

I don’t think I’ll make a judgement about someone’s character based on a single clip from an entire season.

If I did, I could equally single out his sensitive handling of Foster, which led Lyle to say he’s run through a wall for Kompany.

My opinion of him as a manager is that he’s played in successful football teams that are so used to winning that a bollocking on the odd occasion that his team underperformed was probably inconsequential, insofar as the team probably wins the next game anyway. The MTB footage showed very repetitive post-match rants which were not uplifting, poured blame onto the players rather than his own decisions, and clearly had no positive effect on the players.

Kompany is a born winner and doesn’t know how to lose. This was evident with his disciplinary record with officials. He also doesn’t seem capable to shoulder the responsibility for his own failings. He may well do a good job at Bayern as they’re similar to the Man City teams that he played in, and captained.

I wasn’t overly enthused by Parker’s appointment, but my feelings are that we have a happier camp now that Kompany has left.

claretlegend wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:27 pm

Pressure gets to people in different ways. Not always easy to control a temper in the most stressful situations.

Not for VK,obviously.

I've spent my working life engaged with people in a range of very demanding high pressure situations...most of them far more serious and consequential than the outcome of football matches...very rarely have these people resorted to abusive temper tantrums.

I was ! I thought he was a gentleman and very respectful and polite until I saw how he treated JBG and others.

(very) glad he’s gone !

BUT, thanks for that season, awesome players and stuffing that lot twice !

I think a lot of it's performative. Look how much I care, see what a winner I am.

Pep does this, I'll do it too. Probably works better if you have the best players in the world and a decade of success to back you up.

Can't say a word against the guy. In our last championship season, he brought us football rarely seen in a Burnley team. Brought us some exceptional youg talent. It the closest ill come to knowing how it feels being a city fan watching amazing players and football every week. Has the documentary taken the gloss off.... not on your Nelly! That season will live long I'm my memory as the best I've ever seen my Burnley.

I just think the pressure on company to stay up put pressure on young heads. That showed in the dressing room. Maybe just a..... enjoy the ride lads would have made a difference. Who knows!

He said on several occasions that Burnley was a calm place. MTB suggests otherwise.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn’t it?

I still think those that were throwing their toys out of the pram after the best season ever the season before were tedious. There’s no way that they could have known or foresaw the behind the scenes events so no, I don’t regret sticking by the manager and the team to the death.


Looking back, with the benefit of hindsight, I do feel that his departure may have been a blessing in disguise.

Nope my views were bang on about him. Wanted him gone before the turn of the year despite that season the year before.

Arrogant tosspot springs to mind, taking his anger out on others whilst he slinks off to another job.

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:09 pm

Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn’t it?

I still think those that were throwing their toys out of the pram after the best season ever the season before were tedious. There’s no way that they could have known or foresaw the behind the scenes events so no, I don’t regret sticking by the manager and the team to the death.


Looking back, with the benefit of hindsight, I do feel that his departure may have been a blessing in disguise.

There were enough who saw through him as early as October last year. Couldn’t have known all the goings on, but it stated to squeeze out about then.

I admit I was wrong ….. he’s a bigger prick than I thought he was.

Expecting that kind of rollicking wouldn’t be dished out by most managers, when required, would be very naive.

SAF was well known for his ‘hairdryer treatment’ when required.

Much worse behaviour by Kompany was his freezing out of the successful players from the season before.

I really dread to think what fans would have thought had there been a fly on the wall documentary when Stan was in charge! Would make Kompany look like a pussy cat

I'm hopefully going to admit I was wrong about SP. Hope he proves me totally wrong but I guess we will see at the end of the next two season cycle.

I got carried away after the storming Championship title success under Kompany
I put a lot of trust in him in the PL despite the many defeats during that really tough start . It took me until going into the second half of the season before I started to have serious doubts about him , finally giving up on him . I wouldn’t be surprised if others felt that way.
Now that it has all come out about him last season I’ve a lot of bad feeling against him .,

LowtonClaret wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:21 pm

I really dread to think what fans would have thought had there been a fly on the wall documentary when Stan was in charge! Would make Kompany look like a pussy cat

There was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhDzme22tw0

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:11 pm

Just seen the video of him shouting at JBG. It’s well documented about my thoughts of the bloke as manager. So happy he’s away from the club now.

Anyone willing to admit they were wrong about him?

Gave me the most enjoyable season in my lifetime and so will always have my gratitude for that. Some people will be miserable no matter who is in charge.

I'm reminded of this apparent quote by Bismarck: Laws are Like Sausages. Better Not to See Them Being Made.

Hipper wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:42 pm

I'm reminded of this apparent quote by Bismarck: Laws are Like Sausages. Better Not to See Them Being Made.

Bit harsh on Brian that

I was pretty vocal that he should stay and be given the opportunity to take us back up, often debating with LordBeamish and others on Facebook, but now I'm glad he's gone. I was blinded by that incredible season (which I'll always be grateful for).

Bowclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:46 pm

I was ! I thought he was a gentleman and very respectful and polite until I saw how he treated JBG and others.

(very) glad he’s gone !

BUT, thanks for that season, awesome players and stuffing that lot twice !

He showed his true colours before coming to Burnley with a horrible rant at his former club.I said at the time that he should be no where near our club but obviously when things were going right he proved me wrong and then reality kicked in last season but it’s easier being nice when things are going right.

LowtonClaret wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:21 pm

I really dread to think what fans would have thought had there been a fly on the wall documentary when Stan was in charge! Would make Kompany look like a pussy cat

Stan didn’t need to raise his voice to get his point across ask Warnock’s assistant.

From the highs of that win at Ewood to the lows of Man City at home. That line-up in itself was concerning but as the season went on it was clear that he’d p*ssed all over the connection and camaraderie that Championship team had built. That was why we went down.

I don’t actually have too much of a problem with the JBG clip apart from the ‘something to say big boy’ bit. I’m sure much worse happens on training grounds up and down the country, especially at teams down the bottom end of the table.

I've never had anything against VK really. Even that clip in MTB might have been him having an off day. Only people closer within the camp will fully know if he had begun to lose the plot. However it seemed strange to pick on a loyal servant like JBG who seemingly always gave his all and was a popular member of the squad.

He was amazing at bringing together pretty much a whole new team and getting them to play some controlled football from the get-go. That was a major achievement. Losing only 3 games in such a tough league is also kudos to him.

His major failing was obviously last season. Just hearing Parker and Brownhill talking about different tactics and ways to combat the opposition had me thinking that maybe we were all blinded for a while by the stubborn "we play only one way" mantra. You could see after a couple of games that we were going to have an awful season unless we became more pragmatic. You could say his ego ended up him getting the Bayern job and us getting relegated, which sticks in the throat a bit.

Getting 10 million for him is a massive bonus for us, as his style of football would never have worked, if our end goal is to be a fairly well established premier league team.

A great first season but he totally lost the plot with tactical nouse in the Premier league non existent. Bullying doest work as a motivation tool and this will reappear at Bayern just before he gets the boot.

Not going to comment but thank goodness he has gone. As Dara O Shea has just said having Parker as manager is like a breath of fresh air. You only have to look at the body language of balanced players like Cork and Brownhill when Kompany was blasting JBG.

Kompany is a winner...nice guys win nothing....thanks Vinny for the most enjoyable season in the Championship season since the Mullen 4th division days.
The same posters that creamed themselves over Vinny in the Championship turned on him to quickly last season the Championship is our level and it's about a lot of our support accepted it.

What a fickle lot you are.

Here's the starting 11 from Monday's superb victory away at Luton...
Kompany signed 8 of them, with our best player out injured, also signed by Kompany.

Kompany couldn't forget Guddy putting him on his arris.

I was told some considerable time ago that the place was toxic with him. I’m relieved he’s gone.

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You don't need to be in Forensics to know things were not right in the dressing room and with players. I also know enough about CT to believe him when he makes a comment, than not

I've seen the clip but not the series yet. Wrighty, Keane, Carragher, Neville and Scott give it a mention in the early part of this......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6bgdpqk5HE

Great one season. Pretty poor one after.

Can't blame him for his move though.

But to me he's left the club in a bit of a mess with many players not good enough and some very costly.

So, so relieved he went and after seeing the documentary I’m even more relieved. His speeches to the players were repetitive and completely without substance.

It was so refreshing to see the players being given proper instruction and motivation again on Monday evening.

ksrclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:39 pm

It was so refreshing to see the players being given proper instruction and motivation again on Monday evening.

It was.
You could see in the joyous celebrations when the goals were flying in how together they were and, it seemed, determined to emphasise that.

Certainly glad he's slung his hook.

I’m sure lots of managers shout or swear at players behind closed doors. Probably more so in years gone by. Thing is with VK he has a massive ego and is stubborn. I wanted him gone fairly early into last season as it was quite clear it wasn’t going to work, he wouldn’t change and we’d be relegated. Fans who suggested this got shot down on here for showing no loyalty. Well he didn’t show the board any loyalty for sticking by him with an appalling run of form and displays. His man management skills clearly leave a lot to be desired too. Think some of the players actions and remarks since have been quite pointed.

It’s a bit of a shame if a 101 point season is tarnished because someone tried and failed at a higher level with inferior players to 75% of the league. My take would be one where I enjoyed the successes and will try to learn from the failures.

I wish him all the best tbh. Clearly someone used to a higher level of football than we are used to at Burnley which is why we were pretty much invincible with that style in the Championship. He’s clearly feathered his own nest by sticking to an unworkable playing style against better teams. It has allowed him access to one of the biggest jobs in world football which was his career path.

We were lucky to have him and are lucky now that he has gone. No way would we be successful in the prem playing that style without the quality of players being superior to the opposition. To do that you need the pragmatism of our previous permanent manager.

I thought that he was an articulate, intelligent manager who had the insight and innovative capability to give us a strong chance of staying up. It turns out he was an arrogant one trick pony with poor man management skills and didn’t really seem to care about winning football matches as long as he played his way. I was thrilled when he left as I had fallen out of love with football watching that tripe.

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:11 pm

Just seen the video of him shouting at JBG. It’s well documented about my thoughts of the bloke as manager. So happy he’s away from the club now.

Anyone willing to admit they were wrong about him?

Don’t forget that incident was in the 2 week period before the Brentford game when it all went belly up on the pitch and shortly after Lyle was in big trouble. Who knows how much pressure VK was under at the time? Before that point all games had maybe gone as expected - home defeats to the big clubs (and away vs Newcastle), beating Luton and unfairly drawing at Forest. It was what happened after that incident that sunk us.

But yes, I am happy to admit I was wrong about him. I called him narcissistic early on in the season, but I also staunchly defended him and thought he would succeed. Now I think he was out of his depth, not knowing how to handle losing, and thus not knowing how to teach the players to handle it themselves and overcome it. Their heads dropped. That was on him.

greatful for the season he gave us in the championship and winning it down the road and the fact he left us with some fantastic players,the prem season showed his lack of respect for the players who got us there when he dropped them like a hot potato and his reluctance to change for a bit more substance over style was the reason we went down with a wimper. All managers have a go at players its sometimes needed but you have your go get your point across then move on not keep going back 2 or 3 times looking for a rise and the big boy comment was totally unnecessary, eventually that sort of man management will get him clocked if he does it to the wrong player glad he's gone if that's his level of man management.

If we go up this season we will be far better equipped than we would ever have been under VK now we have a coach with more of a horses for coarses approach both tactically and personnel wise.

Stonehouse wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:54 pm

He showed his true colours before coming to Burnley with a horrible rant at his former club.I said at the time that he should be no where near our club but obviously when things were going right he proved me wrong and then reality kicked in last season but it’s easier being nice when things are going right.

What was your username “at the time” because you only signed up to this board in June this year with your current one.

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:33 pm

You don't need to be in Forensics to know things were not right in the dressing room and with players. I also know enough about CT to believe him when he makes a comment, than not

What about the rest of us that were saying this before Xmas. Started Kompmay out threads and got bans for doing so?

Were we not to be believed?

I was told on very good authority that he held a meeting and basically said it was his way or the highway and if you didn't like it you could clear off, there is strong management and there is bullying because you are blinkered to your failings so shift the blame.