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RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2024 11:45 pm
by jdrobbo
Michael Salisbury (Lancashire) v Cardiff City
How to Score
A. Decision Making (including use of advantage) - out of 25
B. Consistency - out of 25
C. Fitness and Positioning - of 25
D. Control and Authority - out of 25
Please only Rate the Ref if you attended the game and only do so, after the game has ended. Thank you
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:29 pm
by jdrobbo
Thread now open for ratings
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:54 pm
by Claretitus
Is he Aaron Ramseys’ dad? Free kick to them every time he hit the grass. Embarrassing.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:57 pm
by FCBurnley
Overall poor
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:00 pm
by MeeActon1
5
5
10
5
Presume the Cardiff team coach is dropping him off at the end of the M65 on their way home.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:02 pm
by Bosscat
8
8
6
8
Terrible at times
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:39 pm
by Ightenhill_Claret
Very very poor performance from the man in the middle. Game never got going because of his overuse of the whistle.
6
6
6
6
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:56 pm
by dsr
3
12
13
5
He's one of many referees who simply does not realise that players will pretend to be fouled. He thinks all footballers are scrupulously honest.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:57 pm
by Rileybobs
He was bob. Fall over, win a free kick.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:22 pm
by Turfmoorclaret
8
7
15
6
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:24 pm
by mdd2
Awful referee
Let a lot go but pulled up play for fouls when the ball won cleanly
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:27 pm
by Dark Cloud
He really didn't influence the result, but let's be honest, he doesn't know the difference between a good tackle and a foul. Esteve's booking was a joke.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:42 pm
by ClaretTony
A 12
B 10
C 18
D 14
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:43 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Dreadful stopped the game everytime they fell over. Linesman on Bob Lord never up with play either.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:50 pm
by Colburn_Claret
Rubbish
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:59 pm
by Aclaret
A 7
B 7
C 11
D 6
....and the frightening thing is, there's probably worse to come !
Another thing I noticed was the lino on the Longside, twice a Cardiff player taking a throw- in stepped over the line in doing so.....basic errors in not looking down the line
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:11 pm
by nonayclaret
Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:43 pm
Dreadful stopped the game everytime they fell over. Linesman on Bob Lord never up with play either.
He did give their "goal" offside though at a critical time in the game.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:24 pm
by Beagleheart
12
11
17
12
The assistant in front of the Bob Lord Stand spent a nice afternoon playing guessing games and very often guessing incorrectly.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:26 pm
by Stalbansclaret
A 5
B 15 (he was consistently bad)
C 15
D 10
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:26 pm
by MDWat
A - 5
B - 5
C - 5
D - 5
A joke.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:27 pm
by Ric_C
He was awful. Made an easy game to referee look difficult
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:29 pm
by Goobs
A 6
B 13
C 20
D 16
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 9:22 pm
by dougcollins
Esteve’s booking.
Wtf.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 9:31 pm
by Rowls
He was poor.
A. 10
B. 8
C. 14
D. 7
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 9:44 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
10
5
15
10
Awful
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 9:53 pm
by CatonClaret
A. 10
B. 10
C. 15
D. 10
Unfortunately won’t be the worst we have this season….
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 9:59 pm
by Woodleyclaret
A 5
B5
C5
D4
Dire no control
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:14 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
A - 5. Didn’t know what was a soft dive as others have pointed out, which ruined the game.
B - 3. Fouls, Burnley 19 Cardiff 6, which I think says it all.
C - 10. At least fitness was good enough to see Zeki’s goal cos all he had to do was feel his watch vibrate
D - 10. Didn’t really lay a marker down for their antics and let Ramsey referee the game.
A very poor ref but luckily didn’t cost us apart from a wrong yellow for Max.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:41 pm
by Stproc
5
5
10
5
Awful but such more bearable than VAR
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 11:21 pm
by quoonbeatz
He was trash.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 11:27 pm
by LincsWoldsClaret
His usual standard -
6
6
9
6
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 12:34 am
by Bordeauxclaret
Awful.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 12:54 am
by MT03ALG
5
5
5
5
Started well but unfortunately after not buying the first of countless dives by number 19 and the other Cardiff divers, he bought every other one ! Foul count off 22-7 according to Live Score was a joke !!
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 1:13 am
by Somethingfishy
Wasn't he on VAR duty last season in one of our many contentious decisions? Can't remember which game it was but I'm sure someone might dig it out. If he is a VAR official you can definitely see why it will never work with clowns like Salisbury around. He had absolutely no clue what a foul was and wasn't. Like he was literally guessing. Esteves booking was his crowning moment. Incompetent.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 9:44 am
by beeholeclaret
7
7
15
10
Referee frustrating and allowed Ramsey to control the match (ie dropping to the floor at slightest touch). This is what comes from playing at the highest level where unscrupulous managers / coaches would sell their own grandma for a pint).
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 9:54 am
by CaptJohn
I think he initially tried to let the game flow but soon realised that it could get a touch out of hand and went the other way.
A. 10
B. 5
C. 15
D. 10
The two linesmen were up with play but seemed to follow the lead of the ref as to awarding throw ins
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 9:57 am
by bfcjg
6
5
14
4
Poor performance, didn't help the game at all.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:20 pm
by Luppy
A - 6 - generally poor. The Esteve booking was staggering
B - 10 - He was consistenly poor!
C - 18 - the bizzare mark - he never seemed to really be out of position, which made his performance all the more baffling
D - 6 - Ramsey basically ran the game
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:41 pm
by Poulton-le-Claret
Decision making - 5 (clueless)
Consistency - 15 (consistently dreadful, but consistent)
Fitness/position - 15 (Right positions, wrong decisions)
Control -- 5 (lacked it entirely)
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:19 am
by ClaretTony
CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:14 pm
B - 3. Fouls, Burnley 19 Cardiff 6, which I think says it all.
I must admit, I was staggered when I saw that statistic.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 11:38 pm
by Spike
A Liverpool fan who lives in Penwortham .
Normally Premier League so strange decision for him to do this game with him doing VAR at Chelski the following day
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:30 pm
by Hipper
I've just seen the whole match on Clarets+ and I expected a dreadful ref performance. I didn't see it!
My only criticisms would be Foster's yellow, unless he was feuding with Ramsey, and not booking Koleosho for persistent fouling.
The Esteve booking looked to me for just blocking their forward. He may have got a touch on the ball but that doesn't mean it's not a foul.
The ref seemed to me to get most decisions right but it's inevitable when many of the players cheat that some will be wrong. The Cardiff players were the most responsible for that but were not the only ones.
As for some of the game being stop/start there clearly wasn't much advantage to be had from some of these fouls.
I had no problem with his performance.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:35 pm
by nil_desperandum
Hipper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:30 pm
I've just seen the whole match on Clarets+ and I expected a dreadful ref performance. I didn't see it!
My only criticisms would be Foster's yellow, unless he was feuding with Ramsey, and not booking Koleosho for persistent fouling.
From our view it seemed quite clear that Foster was waving an imitation yellow card at the referee, which is a card offence. Of course, I can't be certain that that was what he was doing, but that's how it appeared to us.
Maybe not clear on Clarets+?
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:35 pm
by Hipper
It's hard to see on Clarets+. The yellow card was on 42 mins if anyone wants to check. It's possible he was card waving as he got up. Anyway, that would explain the card thanks.
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:31 am
by dsr
I think the current thinking referee's thinking is that if someone falls over and it isn't really a foul, just give a free kick; if it is a proper foul, book him as well. Only if the ref is certain that it was a dive with no contact, then they will wave play on.
(I would rather they went back to the old rule where they didn't give a free kick at all when it wasn't a foul, but I doubt that's on the agenda.)
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 9:26 am
by Spike
A13
B7
C17
D10
Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Cardiff City
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:48 am
by clarets1978
Hipper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:35 pm
It's hard to see on Clarets+. The yellow card was on 42 mins if anyone wants to check. It's possible he was card waving as he got up. Anyway, that would explain the card thanks.
Lyle 100% waved the imaginary card at the referee. I said at the time he'd be booked for that. No complaints there at all