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Jack Clarke

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:47 pm

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:55 pm

They might be saying something similar with the sale of Zaroury after what he did to them last time we were there.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 12:01 am

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:55 pm
They might be saying something similar with the sale of Zaroury after what he did to them last time we were there.
Clarke is one of their top players, Zaroury couldn't even get in our starting 11 this season
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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 12:03 am

Let's hope he slings his hook tomorrow.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by mybloodisclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:13 am

Great news for us ahead of Saturday. This is similar to us losing Odebert for them. One of their main threats seemingly unavailable.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:19 am

Having medical today ( Friday)

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by Quicknick » Fri Aug 23, 2024 3:44 am

Excellent news. Bye bye, Jack.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:29 am

Weren't we reportedly interested in him couple of years back?
Good player.
If he goes, they'll miss him.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by pompeyclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:21 am

How many players are Ipswich signing? Getting Borja from Chelsea too, seems a common mistake...

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by Row x » Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:39 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:13 am
Great news for us ahead of Saturday. This is similar to us losing Odebert for them. One of their main threats seemingly unavailable.
Yet we scored 5 after Odobert left

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by Quicknick » Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:49 am

And we'll score another five on Saturday.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by bobinho » Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:55 am

pompeyclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:21 am
How many players are Ipswich signing? Getting Borja from Chelsea too, seems a common mistake...
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All their signings so far look like obvious improvements to what they had. That’s key, I think. Bringing in a load of players who aren’t necessarily better than what you already have and cramming them into the team is most certainly a mistake. :? :roll:

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by wadeswondergoal » Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:24 am

You would think that Ipswich will struggle massively this season. Largely moved away from their squad that won them back-to-back promotions, and with it will have probably ruined the team spirit that would’ve given them a fighting chance.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by gandhisflipflop » Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:31 am

Every time a journo mentions the ‘package’ in the transfer I cringe.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:32 am

Ipswich have bought exceptionally well so far - just what we should have done last season - will struggle though

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:33 am

wadeswondergoal wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:24 am
You would think that Ipswich will struggle massively this season. Largely moved away from their squad that won them back-to-back promotions, and with it will have probably ruined the team spirit that would’ve given them a fighting chance.
They wouldn't have had any chance whatsoever of staying up with their promotion-winning
squad, simply not good enough for the PL, the step up is just too great. (As we found)
At least they're giving it a go and spending to get quality in that'll at least give them a
fighting chance of staying up.
Be a real test for them, but their manager might just drag them over the line.
(If he doesn't depart for pastures new.)

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by wadeswondergoal » Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:43 am

ElectroClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:33 am
They wouldn't have had any chance whatsoever of staying up with their promotion-winning
squad, simply not good enough for the PL, the step up is just too great. (As we found)
At least they're giving it a go and spending to get quality in that'll at least give them a
fighting chance of staying up.
Be a real test for them, but their manager might just drag them over the line.
(If he doesn't depart for pastures new.)
I’m not entirely sure that the players they are bringing in have the required ability collectively to keep them up.

Jack Clarke - struggled in the PL
Szmodics - never played in the PL
Broja - not got going at any club
Greaves - never played in the PL
Muric - prone to an error or two
Delap - not even prolific in the championship
Johnson - third choice at West Ham
Phillips - has a point to prove but poor last season for West Ham

I just don’t see enough quality in their squad to stay up. They will work hard and pick up the odd result, but I can’t see them staying up at all.
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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by mybloodisclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:27 am

Row x wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:39 am
Yet we scored 5 after Odobert left
I think our squad is stronger than theirs. Whilst we can perhaps lose a couple of big players, the loss of one of their bigger players will hit them harder then is losing WO.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by Roosterbooster » Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:27 am

wadeswondergoal wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:43 am
Jack Clarke - struggled in the PL
How many games has he played in the PL??

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:33 am

Roosterbooster wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:27 am
How many games has he played in the PL??
In his whole career he made a grant total of 0 appearances in the Prem, at least we normally give our players 1 game before some write them off :D
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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by wadeswondergoal » Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:35 am

Roosterbooster wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:27 am
How many games has he played in the PL??
Zero after moving from Leeds to Spurs, he made no appearances for them in the PL.

That tells me he struggled.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by wadeswondergoal » Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:36 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:33 am
In his whole career he made a grant total of 0 appearances in the Prem, at least we normally give our players 1 game before some write them off :D
Is three years at a PL club without a single appearance not enough of a chance?

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:37 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:33 am
In his whole career he made a grant total of 0 appearances in the Prem, at least we normally give our players 1 game before some write them off :D
And when he was with a team in the Premier League he was 19 :roll:

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:53 am

wadeswondergoal wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:43 am
I’m not entirely sure that the players they are bringing in have the required ability collectively to keep them up.

Jack Clarke - struggled in the PL
Szmodics - never played in the PL
Broja - not got going at any club
Greaves - never played in the PL
Muric - prone to an error or two
Delap - not even prolific in the championship
Johnson - third choice at West Ham
Phillips - has a point to prove but poor last season for West Ham

I just don’t see enough quality in their squad to stay up. They will work hard and pick up the odd result, but I can’t see them staying up at all.
Well, we'll see about the new players and how they shape up.
My point was they'd have been slaughtered every week with their original squad.

The gap clubs like ourselves and Ipswich have to bridge is colossal now.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:06 am

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:29 am
Weren't we reportedly interested in him couple of years back?
Good player.
If he goes, they'll miss him.
Last summer - we were trying to unsettle him from what I've been told - spoke to my mate up there last night and he said they were losing their best player.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:14 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:06 am
Last summer - we were trying to unsettle him from what I've been told - spoke to my mate up there last night and he said they were losing their best player.
Didn't realise it was only last year.
Been that much transfer stuff going on my heads spinning!

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by Hipper » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:18 am

wadeswondergoal wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:43 am
I’m not entirely sure that the players they are bringing in have the required ability collectively to keep them up.

Jack Clarke - struggled in the PL
Szmodics - never played in the PL
Broja - not got going at any club
Greaves - never played in the PL
Muric - prone to an error or two
Delap - not even prolific in the championship
Johnson - third choice at West Ham
Phillips - has a point to prove but poor last season for West Ham

I just don’t see enough quality in their squad to stay up. They will work hard and pick up the odd result, but I can’t see them staying up at all.
All of these players have played in England which couldn't be said about many of our purchases last year. And most of them have had Premier League experience. Within a promoted club's budget, this seems a pretty good effort. I hop it works out for them.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:20 am

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:14 am
Didn't realise it was only last year.
Been that much transfer stuff going on my heads spinning!
I have just had to double check and it was last year
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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by IanMcL » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:22 am

Clarke is the biggest possible loss they could have, in this window. Star man.

They will be gutted. Our advantage.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by jedi_master » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:38 am

Result for us this - fans and team on a downer after their talisman departs the day before. Lovely stuff.

Advantage Burnley!

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:02 am

If the deal doesn’t go through by tomorrow I wonder if he’ll be ill.
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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by Ric_C » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:24 am

Only think I'd say about Clarke is that I watched him in the FA cup against Newcastle, and he looked bang average. Put me off us signing him after that.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by TsarBomba » Fri Aug 23, 2024 12:53 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:38 am
Result for us this - fans and team on a downer after their talisman departs the day before. Lovely stuff.

Advantage Burnley!
Been reading their forum this week. They were buzzing for this game, but it’s noticeably flatter with the departure of Clarke.

Their new striker from Zenit is likely to be waiting for international clearance, too.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by claretskeith » Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:23 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 12:53 pm
Been reading their forum this week. They were buzzing for this game, but it’s noticeably flatter with the departure of Clarke.

Their new striker from Zenit is likely to be waiting for international clearance, too.
We'll no doubt be without O'Shea too.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by BleedingClaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:25 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:23 pm
We'll no doubt be without O'Shea too.
I’ve heard a rumour he’s going to starting feeling ill this evening

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by NewClaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:32 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:38 am
Result for us this - fans and team on a downer after their talisman departs the day before. Lovely stuff.

Advantage Burnley!
Agree with this, it’s not so much the loss of a good player but the impact on the dressing rooms and fans.

Last time we played against him we contained him very well but I suspect he might’ve done more damage with us no longer controlling possession.

Anyway, big advantage going in to the game. Hopefully get an early goal.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by BigGaz » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:02 pm

All I can remember about Jack Clarke is that Trippier was having an absolutely torrid run of form in January and he still masterfully gaffered him in the FA cup.

Allied with Spurs more than happy to let him go, him getting picked up by Sunderland rather than anyone else, and I'm still not convinced he's got the minerals to make it at that level.

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by distortiondave » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:04 pm

BigGaz wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:02 pm
All I can remember about Jack Clarke is that Trippier was having an absolutely torrid run of form in January and he still masterfully gaffered him in the FA cup.

Allied with Spurs more than happy to let him go, him getting picked up by Sunderland rather than anyone else, and I'm still not convinced he's got the minerals to make it at that level.
What does minerals mean?

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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by BigGaz » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:09 pm

Having the nerves and ability to do something in this case
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Re: Jack Clarke

Post by Commy » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:14 pm

There must be some reason that one of the established Premier teams hasn't tried to sign him. Palace are usually the ones that go for young players from the Championship. His party trick, similar to Benson, will be stopped a lot more in the Premier.

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