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Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:28 pm
by dandeclaret
I don't know if this is a new thing or not, but I was very surprised at the stadium announcers complete lack of awareness of the situation and noise in the ground - especially pre match.
A few times, noise was building, and he decided that was the exact time that He should make some incredibly loud, incredibly dull announcement.
Examples - Burney team heading towards the tunnel after the warm up pre game, Longside and Cricket field fans starting to make noise - SA - Announcement on if you feel unsafe text blah to code blah blah blah, Turf moor is an inclusive blah blah blah, safe for everyone. Took all of the energy out of the crowd.
Similarly, team heading out....noise building nicely - don't need some loud, boring announcement on welcome to the East Lancs Derby (Does anybody in the ground actually call it the East Lancs derby - the announcer did, about 30 times) - just let the noise build.
Be aware of what's happening, don't just follow a script on what to announce and when.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:32 pm
by Stalbansclaret
Agree 100pc. There has been previous discussion on here about Mr Shouty and his tinpot "LETS HEAR IT FOR BURN_LEEEEE !!" bellowing (irrespective of the surrounding atmosphere or context).
Needs binning. It's football not CBeebies.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:35 pm
by DCWat
Come on Dan, be fair.
The atmosphere always ramps up tenfold when the “let’s hear it for BURNLEY” announcement is given, on each of the multiple occasions!
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:37 pm
by mybloodisclaret
BUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRNNNNLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:38 pm
by HurstGrangeClaret
There were several times last season where I could quite cheerfully have strangled him.
Takes all the spontaneity out of it, like when they insist on playing music at the end of a game when all the average fan wants to do is cheer and celebrate (a win).
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:45 pm
by GetIntoEm
based on how the crowd reaction and cheer on cue i suspect that a minority of people have a problem with him.
if thats all you've got to moan about i suspect all isnt too bad
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:46 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
I didn’t see the players leaving their warm ups but I did have the same thoughts before the teams came out.
There was a real atmosphere building between the two sets of fans.
Not heard that for a while.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:55 pm
by Ightenhill_Claret
dandeclaret wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:28 pm
I don't know if this is a new thing or not, but I was very surprised at the stadium announcers complete lack of awareness of the situation and noise in the ground - especially pre match.
A few times, noise was building, and he decided that was the exact time that He should make some incredibly loud, incredibly dull announcement.
Examples - Burney team heading towards the tunnel after the warm up pre game, Longside and Cricket field fans starting to make noise - SA - Announcement on if you feel unsafe text blah to code blah blah blah, Turf moor is an inclusive blah blah blah, safe for everyone. Took all of the energy out of the crowd.
Similarly, team heading out....noise building nicely - don't need some loud, boring announcement on welcome to the East Lancs Derby (Does anybody in the ground actually call it the East Lancs derby - the announcer did, about 30 times) - just let the noise build.
Be aware of what's happening, don't just follow a script on what to announce and when.
I thought the same on Saturday. I get that there's certain announcements they need/want to make but you know when the players are heading back in after warm-up (it's pretty much the same time every match) so just exercise some common sense.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:03 pm
by quoonbeatz
He’s absolutely abysmal. Understandable as he’s come from rugby where they need someone to tell them to create an atmosphere.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:22 pm
by helmclaret
Did you hear Ian Bannister’s replacement reading out the half time scores? Sounded like a hungover teenager who’d just been woken up.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:29 pm
by RickyBobby
Playing some weird deafening music as they were walking out killed the atmosphere. Why are they playing random songs that are different every game as we walk out at full blast? It ruins the atmosphere every game.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:33 pm
by dushanbe
It was really noticeable that they killed the atmosphere dead with the Prodigy blasting after it had built up naturally just before and as the players came out of the tunnel. I'm not sure who the music is for, players or fans, but it didn't work on Saturday. I don't normally comment on this stuff, but they really don't get this kind of thing at all
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:53 pm
by ClaretTony
The announcer is dreadful with his bellowing of Burnley capping it.
I always wonder whether he took the moment to read out the teams last year on instruction when Dyche came out. Mind you, he ignored Scott Parker’s first entrance before the Cardiff game.
Ball might be banging on about his drum soon but our club are brilliant at killing the atmosphere.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:56 pm
by Ric_C
Agreed. And he shouts too much. Gets on my nerves
As for the entrance music. The Prodigy are one of my favourite bands, but in no way should this be used for walk on music. Get it binned off now
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:02 pm
by bfcjg
A Colin Crompton Wheeltappers and Shunters club style announcement would be brilliant, the bell, the dull Lancashire drawl would be unique., ladies and gentlemen, we've had a meeting of the committee and decided the team is..... A real antidote to the tedious razzmatazz.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XjpraPZIZVY
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:03 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
I imagine he may have been told to deliver that message about the anti-harassment etc initiative close to ko and so didn't really have much option.
I didn't find him particularly loud but maybe they have the speakers on lower for us old fogeys in he Bob Lord?
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:06 pm
by dandeclaret
The safety one was t close to kick off. It was when the teams was heading off post warm up…. Probably 10-15 minutes before the kick off, when there’s a natural lull in atmosphere.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:11 pm
by beddie
We’ve always thought even the music or the announcer harping on before the teams come out is far too loud. It’s so annoying when you’re trying to have a conversation with other people that sit near to you. It was our first home game so it’s nice to catch up with others you haven't seen for a few months, it was almost impossible trying to work out what’s being said.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:15 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
I wonder if a pre-recorded message might be better. Could be done i'd imagine.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:33 pm
by HurstGrangeClaret
GetIntoEm wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:45 pm
based on how the crowd reaction and cheer on cue i suspect that a minority of people have a problem with him.
if thats all you've got to moan about i suspect all isnt too bad
Based on the posts on this thread, it’s not just me objecting to him.
And it’s something so avoidable.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:36 pm
by GetIntoEm
HurstGrangeClaret wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:33 pm
Based on the posts on this thread, it’s not just me objecting to him.
And it’s something so avoidable.
its not, its a dozen or so people on a message board, i'm sure there are more people that it annoys on matchdays who then realise they are there to watch a football match and it has no impact on their enjoyment of that.
Could have Dale Winton reading the teams out for me, and i still wouldn't care less. its literally something that doesnt matter.
i'm just glad we didnt lose saturday, and this is the level of moaning that we have today, could have been a lot lot worse
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:38 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Would people prefer a European style announcer where they only say the player's first name and get the crowd to shou=t the surname back at them?
The Turf guy feels almost understated by comparison
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:38 pm
by LincsWoldsClaret
The announcer kills the atmosphere as does the loud and dumb entry music. It’s now more embarrassing than Watford’s.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:39 pm
by dandeclaret
Not moaning, just an observation, and one that's easy to fix.
They talk on mission to Burnley about lack of atmosphere, and having observed yesterday things that happened that killed the atmosphere when it was building, it felt useful to share, as it's highly likely the club read this board.
If you don't observe such things, that's fine.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:56 pm
by Goody1975
The Euro 96 semi final always comes to mind with stuff like this.
Starting the first couple of bars of the national anthem and then letting the crowd take over was perfect, in a lesser game it wouldn't have had the same effect.
The same can be said on Saturday, read the room (or the game) and act accordingly.
One of the greatest pieces of athletics commentary was in the1996 Atlanta Olympics. Michael Johnson just smashed the 200m world record and as the race finished, David Coleman stayed silent for a number of seconds, not because he couldn't think of what to say, but because the TV viewers deserved to hear the crowd reaction, which was deafening.
Sometimes it is far better to say nothing, than to feel the need to say something pointless.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:23 pm
by TsarBomba
ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:38 pm
Would people prefer a European style announcer where they only say the player's first name and get the crowd to shou=t the surname back at them?
The Turf guy feels almost understated by comparison
Made me think of this, Zizkov, at Napoli.
https://x.com/thecasualultra/status/135 ... 23265?s=46
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:56 pm
by Juan Tanamera
I honestly wouldn't know who I have come to watch until Mr Shouty bellows BURNLEEEEE, so I thank him for that.
Now if I may ask him to turn the volume down at half time so that fellow supporters around me could have a little discussion about the events of the first 45 minutes (selfish, I know).
I don't know know about the rest of the stands, but the speakers in the Jimmy Mac have gone from barely audible to an ear shattering racket.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 4:06 pm
by Juan Tanamera
GetIntoEm wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:36 pm
its not, its a dozen or so people on a message board, i'm sure there are more people that it annoys on matchdays who then realise they are there to watch a football match and it has no impact on their enjoyment of that.
Could have Dale Winton reading the teams out for me, and i still wouldn't care less. its literally something that doesnt matter.
i'm just glad we didnt lose saturday, and this is the level of moaning that we have today, could have been a lot lot worse
I'm not sure anyone is moaning, just more or less stating the overbearing din from the speakers all around the ground that drowns the noise from the crowd as the players enter the field.
Add that to the incessant ramblings from Mr Shouty, especially at half time when some of us would like to get a word in edge ways.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 4:57 pm
by Elizabeth
helmclaret wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:22 pm
Did you hear Ian Bannister’s replacement reading out the half time scores? Sounded like a hungover teenager who’d just been woken up.
As we played at 12.30 how many half time scores were there to read out for you to mock the replacement?
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 5:20 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Seven.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:33 pm
by Row Z
I actually noticed they didn’t play any walkout music until both sets of players were well onto the pitch. As others have said the atmosphere was building naturally and this lull helped with fans responding and then it killed it completely the with prodigy track.
Shows the club are experimenting though.
Many clubs have ‘anthems’ or tracks for which the fans have chants for - I don’t think we play any song linked to our club do we?
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:45 pm
by blatherwickstattoos
Absolutely no need for him to do anything else but give the teams pre match and announce goalscorers
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:59 pm
by Juan Tanamera
Row Z wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:33 pm
I actually noticed they didn’t play any walkout music until both sets of players were well onto the pitch. As others have said the atmosphere was building naturally and this lull helped with fans responding and then it killed it completely the with prodigy track.
Shows the club are experimenting though.
Many clubs have ‘anthems’ or tracks for which the fans have chants for - I don’t think we play any song linked to our club do we?
Speaking of 'anthems' does anyone know the words to a new-ish song currently being sung from the cricket field stand.
I can't make it out too well from the Jimmy Mac stand but it still sounds infinitely better than the tired old No Nay Never.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:08 pm
by Ipreferaflan
The 'let's hear it for Burnlehhhh' is absolutely tin pot. Makes me cringe every time.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:27 pm
by Claretitus
ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:38 pm
Would people prefer a European style announcer where they only say the player's first name and get the crowd to shou=t the surname back at them?
Yeah!!!!! Get Mr. Shouty to shout “Let’s hear it for”………………….
And WE all shout BUUUURNNNNNNNNLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:30 pm
by KlyBfc
He even practices it
We were sat outside the cricket club saturday when we heard him shouting it to an empty ground as it was barely 11:00am
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:50 am
by The Hung Juror
He is dreadful and needs replacing, but it's not going to happen, the Americans will love him.
One of the only things I love about going to Anfield is hearing their announcer. His voice and delivery are brilliant, understated and no shouting.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:58 am
by Poulton-le-Claret
Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:59 pm
Speaking of 'anthems' does anyone know the words to a new-ish song currently being sung from the cricket field stand.
I can't make it out too well from the Jimmy Mac stand but it still sounds infinitely better than the tired old No Nay Never.
The staying down forever song that breaks into allez allez allez?
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:35 am
by 4:20
The Hung Juror wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:50 am
He is dreadful and needs replacing, but it's not going to happen, the Americans will love him.
One of the only things I love about going to Anfield is hearing their announcer. His voice and delivery are brilliant, understated and no shouting.
George Sephton, The Voice of Anfield. He's the only stadium announcer that has stuck with me. I remember his voice from when we played there in the FA Cup replay in the mid 90s. It was calm, dignified and carried a real gravitas as it echoed around Anfield. Added to the experience immensely. I'll never forget it.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:45 am
by ClaretTony
4:20 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:35 am
George Sephton, The Voice of Anfield. He's the only stadium announcer that has stuck with me. I remember his voice from when we played there in the FA Cup replay in the mid 90s. It was calm, dignified and carried a real gravitas as it echoed around Anfield. Added to the experience immensely. I'll never forget it.
George is 78 now and has been doing the announcing at Anfield since 1971. He's perfect; he doesn't shout and scream but gets the correct information out in the correct manner. Apparently the announcer at Brentford is even longer serving.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:33 am
by SouthLondonexile
In need of a proper review of his presentation.
A good announcer does not try to talk over a full stadium.
He needs taking in hand and led out of the door back to darts commentary or bingo calling.
He is so bad I despair at times , sorry mate it is leave or Pacey sends you to Gala or a proper training course at Nelson College.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:34 am
by ŽižkovClaret
Maybe we could retrain Tresor as an announcer?
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:05 pm
by Juan Tanamera
Poulton-le-Claret wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:58 am
The staying down forever song that breaks into allez allez allez?
Yes that could be the one.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:07 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
The one at Man City is a dick as well
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:13 pm
by getbennyon
Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:56 pm
I honestly wouldn't know who I have come to watch until Mr Shouty bellows BURNLEEEEE, so I thank him for that.
Now if I may ask him to turn the volume down at half time so that fellow supporters around me could have a little discussion about the events of the first 45 minutes (selfish, I know).
I don't know know about the rest of the stands, but the speakers in the Jimmy Mac have gone from barely audible to an ear shattering racket.
It's crazy how we are no longer able to have a half-time debrief due to the volume.
I understand the content ie interview with Chris Pearce/ht entertainment is catering to differences but the volume is dictatorial. The cynic in me thinks it's a ploy to drive people down to the concourses and spend money.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:36 pm
by daveisaclaret
Feel bad bagging on the fella when so many already have but surely someone could find him a short course in how to do conduct interviews?
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:58 pm
by wilks_bfc
daveisaclaret wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:36 pm
Feel bad bagging on the fella when so many already have but surely someone could find him a short course in how to do conduct interviews?
You mean reading out the achievements of a player whilst playing for other clubs they played for, then asking that player what their greatest achievements were whilst playing for those other clubs, isn’t the way to do it?
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:39 pm
by Poulton-le-Claret
Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:05 pm
Yes that could be the one.
Staying down forever,
Is what the b******* said.
In 1987, they said our club was dead.
We won the league at Ewood,
Now everywhere we go.
We sing this song forever,
To let the b******* know.
Allez allez allez
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:55 pm
by Juan Tanamera
getbennyon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:13 pm
It's crazy how we are no longer able to have a half-time debrief due to the volume.
I understand the content ie interview with Chris Pearce/ht entertainment is catering to differences but the volume is dictatorial. The cynic in me thinks it's a ploy to drive people down to the concourses and spend money.
I think we may have to learn sign language so we can have a half time chat.
Re: Stadium Announcer - Lack of awareness
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:57 pm
by Claretextile
As Dan says, his *announcements* kill the mood because of their volume, timing and content.
We appreciate that he's reading from a script, but the 'messages' are robotic and counter-productive.
As the atmosphere began building nicely, we didn't need yet another pompous lecture from ALK's 'operational handbook' about how not to run a football club. The oft-discussed drummer would have been less intrusive.
Hopefully, someone at the next FAB meeting raises the issue, as there is no other conduit by which to reach Pace & Co.
