Al Fayed
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:15 pm
Not saying it’s right or wrong but how can you suddenly accuse someone who is dead?
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Al Fayed
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Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:19 pm
I’m guessing some people are rich and powerful enough to keep things quiet, perhaps until they are no longer with us
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:24 pm
There were numerous accusations while he was alive too.
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:29 pm
Suddenly? There were allegations when he was alive.Stonehouse wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:15 pmNot saying it’s right or wrong but how can you suddenly accuse someone who is dead?
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:30 pm
Accusations started way back in the 80’s
I suppose now he’s not here, it’s easier to bring more accusations to light
I suppose now he’s not here, it’s easier to bring more accusations to light
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:42 pm
Very much like Savile.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:30 pmAccusations started way back in the 80’s
I suppose now he’s not here, it’s easier to bring more accusations to light
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:46 pm
That press conference today was horrific.
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:24 am
Always seemed a sleaze so not surprising. Had letch written all over him
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:03 am
Seems to me people are realising they don't need to be scared anymore about powerful people abusing them and they will get supported properly, and more importantly believed.Stonehouse wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:48 pmSeems to me we’ve become a compensation culture a guy in prison gets stabbed in the kitchen and gets £6 mill pay out.Its a lawyers paradise.
Saville, R Kelly, P Diddy, Al Fayed, etc
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:56 am
Still my favourite ever Burnley chant from when we played them shortly after he was selling Craven cottage, "He's fat, he's round, he's sold your f*ing ground, Al Fayed, Al Fayed". 
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:02 am
An absolute weirdo. Desperate to be accepted by the British establishment, as with quite a lot of people with his background, he failed to understand that class isn’t bought.
Turns out, like a lot of people in his position, he abused his power in the most despicable way.
Turns out, like a lot of people in his position, he abused his power in the most despicable way.
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:10 am
Wealth buys you protection in law, the best barristers, advice and backhanders or some might suggest buying clothes for Prime ministers who are also barristers ensures certain laws aren't introduced or enforced to protect the donors interests.
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:43 am
This is one story that has not surprised me.Felt the same when Saville broke and Cyril Smith, but Stuart Hall and Rolf Harris really surprised me. As another poster noted AL Fayed has sleaze all over him. There was a phone call he made which was broadcast and cant recall who was the recipient but he started talking about his manhood which seemed very odd at the time. He was never given British Citizenship and if I can quote ,I think, Anne Widdicombe, "there was something of the night about him"
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:59 am
Anne Widdecombe was talking about Michael Howard not Al Fayedmdd2 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:43 amThis is one story that has not surprised me.Felt the same when Saville broke and Cyril Smith, but Stuart Hall and Rolf Harris really surprised me. As another poster noted AL Fayed has sleaze all over him. There was a phone call he made which was broadcast and cant recall who was the recipient but he started talking about his manhood which seemed very odd at the time. He was never given British Citizenship and if I can quote ,I think, Anne Widdicombe, "there was something of the night about him"
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:00 am
Then there was the one on the midweek night match when the fuel crisis was on, late 90’s, early 00’s? He came on the pitch at half time and 2000+ of us sang “ You’ll never get a passport”! When the scumbag was trying for British Citizenship.Seems petty now, but at the time it was hilariousCirrus_Minor wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:56 amStill my favourite ever Burnley chant from when we played them shortly after he was selling Craven cottage, "He's fat, he's round, he's sold your f*ing ground, Al Fayed, Al Fayed".
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:25 am
I know that but it is an apt comment about AL Fayed and as to why he never got British citizenship.durhamclaret wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:59 amAnne Widdecombe was talking about Michael Howard not Al Fayed
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:51 am
Terrible thread with some appalling contributions by those who should know better.
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:06 pm
The cherry is on the icing.
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:09 pm
There will always be people more interested in policing the behaviour of victims than of the rapist. Part of how they get away with it.
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:15 pm
That was with 'Tiny' Rowland as the two tried to buy Harrods in the 1980s.mdd2 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:43 amThis is one story that has not surprised me.Felt the same when Saville broke and Cyril Smith, but Stuart Hall and Rolf Harris really surprised me. As another poster noted AL Fayed has sleaze all over him. There was a phone call he made which was broadcast and cant recall who was the recipient but he started talking about his manhood which seemed very odd at the time. He was never given British Citizenship and if I can quote ,I think, Anne Widdicombe, "there was something of the night about him"
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:42 pm
Very easily. When the perpetrator is alive there are so many people close to them that know the truth but it's convenient to say nothing. Fear is the driving instinct. Sadly it's those who suffer at the hands of the abuser that serve a life sentence. So many kinds of abuse prevail; some very difficult to prove the longer time moves on.Stonehouse wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:15 pmNot saying it’s right or wrong but how can you suddenly accuse someone who is dead?
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:06 pm
I think the overriding point he's making is that dead people can't defend themselves & the victims (if they are) can't get the justice that they deserve. The alleged perpetrator is living a life without accepting responsibility for their actions.Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:42 pmVery easily. When the perpetrator is alive there are so many people close to them that know the truth but it's convenient to say nothing. Fear is the driving instinct. Sadly it's those who suffer at the hands of the abuser that serve a life sentence. So many kinds of abuse prevail; some very difficult to prove the longer time moves on.
Re: Al Fayed
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:32 pm
This is hardly a surprise , the Phoney Pharaoh was a right piece of work . Though, much as I find his alleged behaviour appalling , all this “ waiting until they’re dead “ then going after the compo is always a bit disturbing as literally anyone can say /claim anything they like . This often then leaves the genuine victims just thrown in the same pile as the fantasists and money grubbers which publicity and money brings to the fore .