• The Fans

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:29 am**

A bit worrying I put a comment on Facebook saying I thought the fans were a bit quiet tonight and Alan Pace liked it ,obviously more than Brownhill that’s not too happy.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:54 am**

Stonehouse wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:29 am
A bit worrying I put a comment on Facebook saying I thought the fans were a bit quiet tonight and Alan Pace liked it ,obviously more than Brownhill that’s not too happy.

I'm not sure if I'm spending too much time on here but I've also been disappointed with the negativity. It's weird because all my friends and family that are season tickets have all been fairly positive.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:57 am**

In fairness, the football is pretty dull.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:58 am**

I can’t prove it but I think there is a correlation between negativity and non-attendance

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:07 am**

The fans around me were all getting wound up with mis-placed passes and nobody being in the box first half.

Luckily in the 2nd half it was so dull, they all fell asleep.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:12 am**

It's about entertainment... the last 10 minutes +added time was absolutely shocking,wasting time and not even trying to score from corners,like a poster said above the football is dull.
IMO of course.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:17 am**

As Parker alluded to we were feeling the effects of 2 games in a short space of time towards the end of the game, and just wanted to get over the line and not give Plymouth a sniff of a half chance. Fine by me when you're leading. How many stupid goals did we let in at crucial times last season by not being smart and doing the basics right...

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:22 am**

Too much moaning from some of our fans who are quickly reaching Leeds United levels of self-entitlement. We won again to reach 2nd in the league with a squad pretty much brought together 2 games after the season started. A win is what matters, although with a bit more quality in the final 3rd we'd have been 3 up at half time. Back the team and stop whinging when we're getting the results!

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:22 am**

I'm going to guess that Alan Pace had some idealistic view from watching English football on TV most of his life that there was always some sort of intense and intimidating atmosphere, especially with the old traditional clubs.

The reality is that the majority of games are very flat and that is only increasing as we as fans have pretty much seen it all at this level in the last 20 years. It takes a lot more to excite and unfortunately we have a much less exciting squad and probably manager (not necessarily a bad thing) than last time at this level.

I'd suggest Pace should stop taking digs at the fans every few weeks

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:22 am**

Rather have them quiet than continually whingeing.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:54 am**

On a different note ... Well done to the "die hard" Plymouth fans ... for a quite impressive turn out for a 600 mile round trip on a Tuesday night.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:58 am**

I thought our fans were really good last night, urging the team on in an exciting first half and also 8n the second half, even when very little was happening.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:15 pm**

Someone on Twitter used the terms ‘unacceptable’, ‘awful’ and ‘embarrassing’ to describe a win that took us 2nd in the division.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:19 pm**

I didn't think the atmosphere was that bad in the CFS since it was Tuesday night and there was barely any noise from the Plymouth fans to bounce off.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:29 pm**

Stonehouse wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:29 am
A bit worrying I put a comment on Facebook saying I thought the fans were a bit quiet tonight and Alan Pace liked it ,obviously more than Brownhill that’s not too happy.

Why would Alan Pace be reading your Facebook page?

Atmosphere at the Turf has been poor generally for years, even the season under VK it was only when we were winning you'd hear noise and that was more goading of away fans than atmosphere.

Our fans who are moaning about being 2nd in the table really need to get a grip, the football 1st half yesterday was good we are just lacking that final end product at the moment which may improve when better players return to fitness.
I'm pretty sure the atmosphere would improve if people weren't in a bad mood as soon as they stepped foot on Turf Moor property though to be ripped off at the price of crap food and drink that we are served

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:35 pm**

i didn't think the atmosphere was too bad, given we were playing on a Tuesday night , only about 1000 away fans, yes it was frustrating that we didn't get at least 2 or 3 goals in the first half but sometimes these type of matches happen,

if you contrast this to what we saw when we were last in the championship and where we were at this stage of the season then, we are doing amazingly well,

i wonder if those complaining about the atmosphere will be doing so on Saturday , albeit, if we win on Saturday and results have gone our way on Friday then we could be walking away from the turf top of the league.

the problem is people don't put any context to it and take each game in isolation, we cant win every game 5 - 0 and destroy every team we come across, but i guess that's what some supporters expect.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:38 pm**

I think some people are so miserable and negative that it's become their default position on everything. Being positive about anything for more than a few moments would probably freak them out.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:40 pm**

i think you are spot on !!!

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:50 pm**

Stonehouse wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:29 am
A bit worrying I put a comment on Facebook saying I thought the fans were a bit quiet tonight and Alan Pace liked it ,obviously more than Brownhill that’s not too happy.

I you sure it wasn't someone pretending to be Pace and liking lots of comments. I had/saw it the other week.
As mentioned, why would Pace be on Facebook, and if he was why would he be liking any comments, good or bad?

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:08 pm**

Same as very ground in England, dependent on kick off time, opposition and most importantly.. what happens on the pitch.

Even at somewhere like Palace, their ‘ultras’ fade into background noise if the game is meandering along.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:08 pm**

Stonehouse wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:29 am
A bit worrying I put a comment on Facebook saying I thought the fans were a bit quiet tonight and Alan Pace liked it ,obviously more than Brownhill that’s not too happy.

It’s not him lol.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:15 pm**

Clovius Boofus wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:38 pm
I think some people are so miserable and negative that it's become their default position on everything. Being positive about anything for more than a few moments would probably freak them out.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:17 pm**

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:57 am
In fairness, the football is pretty dull.

Dull first half? Really? Thought it was near complete dominance with some really nice footballing moves.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:18 pm**

Gotta admit I'm starting to struggle with this messageboard these days.

It's just clogged up with negative crap posted by a relative handful...the post count of some of them must be phenomenal...relentless drivel.

I'm just glad all this sh1te isnt reflected when I'm at games or talking to fellow clarets.

Pace likes a fairly innoccuous post on social media and the cretins attach more significance to it than the Gettiesburg Address.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:26 pm**

I think there are more posts on the forum from people complaining about the moaners, than there are actual people moaning about the football in the first place.

Personally I think it is best to try and ignore it and post more positive stuff if you are feeling good about being second in the table after the summer we have had, I know I am happy with the season so far

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:28 pm**

It was remarkably quiet at times yesterday, this wasn't down to entertainment as we played some great stuff in the first half. But a small, and quiet away following, a decent refereeing performance and a should-win game are never a good combination for atmosphere. Saturday should be better against a local rival and potentially a chance to go top of the table.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:30 pm**

It’s a fake profile, clearly not Pace

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:32 pm**

I think after the horror show of last season, coupled with the huge number of players sold, the general mood was always going to be on a knife edge early on this season. I wasn't impressed with our overall performance last night but understand where we are as a team currently. We're doing alright all things considered - if results continue to come in, and hopefully performances improve, then I am sure the support will be bit more vocal in the stands...

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:37 pm**

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:57 am
In fairness, the football is pretty dull.

It is the most boring football since - Kompany early days. Before that Cotterill.

By the time something good happens, we are all in a stupor!

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:38 pm**

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:30 pm
It’s a fake profile, clearly not Pace

Some people are easily conned

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:08 pm**

bumba wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:29 pm
Why would Alan Pace be reading your Facebook page?

No chance that Alan Pace liked his post it would be another imposter pretending to be Pace there is 100s on that platform with celebrity names living out their extremely sad existences

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:13 pm**

The fans need to stick by the team as much as possible. Feel like we are one home defeat away from total meltdown for some reason. If you look at our closest challengers Leeds, their fans are really starting to turn on Farke so not entirely a happy camp.

Feel like this league is for the taking if we all stick together.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:16 pm**

I'm not bothered how dull the footy is if we carry on winning. Having said that, if the football isn't particularly exciting (winning it not) it's going to be hard for the crowd to really "make some noise".

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:24 pm**

i thought it was interesting when the ball went into the corner, Plymouth put 3 up top so we had a decision to make, put 4 back and throw the ball into the box or what we did 1 up with 6 minutes extra time to play, put 5 back and play keep ball in the corner.

I thought Parker got it spot on, what we did was the better strategy.

im 59 so i have never liked this pulling everyone back for corners etc, I've never understood why teams don't mix it up like Plymouth did. What would Liverpool do if we put three on the halfway line for the odd corner? It would mix it up a bit more and make teams think about what they did.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:34 pm**

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:30 pm
It’s a fake profile, clearly not Pace

Michael Madsen "liked" one of my posts on Facebook the other day.

I also recall David Bowie liking my contribution to a music thread once. The trouble was he'd been dead for two years!

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:39 pm**

I've had Kings like my posts. I was well chuffed, until I noticed it was the taxi firm.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:43 pm**

As an expat living in Spain I obviously watch all the games on tv. I don’t know how the microphones are positioned at the Turf but the crowd support and chanting/singing etc always sounds great from the Burnley fans. So if I can hear it 1500 miles away I’m sure the players must appreciate it over there.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:56 pm**

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:16 pm
I'm not bothered how dull the footy is if we carry on winning. Having said that, if the football isn't particularly exciting (winning it not) it's going to be hard for the crowd to really "make some noise".

As much as you want the football to be better to watch, and I think that will come, we are, as you say, winning games.

After the soul destroying stuff last season it’s refreshing to see us winning again.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:02 pm**

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:15 pm
Someone on Twitter used the terms ‘unacceptable’, ‘awful’ and ‘embarrassing’ to describe a win that took us 2nd in the division.

Probably the same neg who put an almost identical comment on the BBC website. What the hell do people want?

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:07 pm**

The crowd were relatively quiet last night, but I didn’t hear much moaning.

Perhaps Brownhill’s gripe the other week has had an effect.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:11 pm**

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:15 pm
Someone on Twitter used the terms ‘unacceptable’, ‘awful’ and ‘embarrassing’ to describe a win that took us 2nd in the division.

Hello Vinny!

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:23 pm**

It probably didn't help with the posh area around where Pace sits looking like it was by far the most empty.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:37 pm**

bumba wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:29 pm
Why would Alan Pace be reading your Facebook page?

Atmosphere at the Turf has been poor generally for years, even the season under VK it was only when we were winning you'd hear noise and that was more goading of away fans than atmosphere.

Our fans who are moaning about being 2nd in the table really need to get a grip, the football 1st half yesterday was good we are just lacking that final end product at the moment which may improve when better players return to fitness.
I'm pretty sure the atmosphere would improve if people weren't in a bad mood as soon as they stepped foot on Turf Moor property though to be ripped off at the price of crap food and drink that we are served

It’s not my Facebook page it’s called Turf Moor Loyal.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:30 pm**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:17 pm
Dull first half? Really? Thought it was near complete dominance with some really nice footballing moves.

Sounds like we saw the same first-half.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:50 pm**

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:12 am
It's about entertainment... the last 10 minutes +added time was absolutely shocking,wasting time and not even trying to score from corners,like a poster said above the football is dull.
IMO of course.

I was that bored for the last 20 minutes I actually found myself wanting a Plymouth goal just for some entertainment.

The second half was the dullest I’ve seen in a very long time.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:54 pm**

FeedTheArf wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:50 pm
I was that bored for the last 20 minutes I actually found myself wanting a Plymouth goal just for some entertainment.

The second half was the dullest I’ve seen in a very long time.

Did you not attend any games last season?

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:57 pm**

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:12 am
It's about entertainment... the last 10 minutes +added time was absolutely shocking,wasting time and not even trying to score from corners,like a poster said above the football is dull.
IMO of course.

All the people round me were laughing about our 'Dychesque' end to the game and saying it'll be winding somebody up!

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:58 pm**

bumba wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:54 pm
Did you not attend any games last season?

I did, but at least there were plenty of opposition goals last year to break up the dullness!

If we’re holding it in the corner with 10 minutes to go against Plymouth at home then the crowd will act accordingly.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:27 pm**

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:30 pm
It’s a fake profile, clearly not Pace

I think some of the previous comments put on the Turf Moor Loyal site have certainly come from Mr Pace and the majority have been very positive there’s no reason to think it’s fake or I’m sure if it was a fake there would a lot worse than a like on if they were trying to be mischievous.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:40 pm**

FeedTheArf wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:58 pm
I did, but at least there were plenty of opposition goals last year to break up the dullness!

If we’re holding it in the corner with 10 minutes to go against Plymouth at home then the crowd will act accordingly.

As soon as we had the free kick as the 6 minute injury time started and kept it in the corner, I just walked out.
I've not got any time for it. Nevermind against lesser opposition at home.

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