Burnley v Plymouth report

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"We’ve now won more home games than we did last season too."
is the phrase that really matters

brexit wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:44 am

"We’ve now won more home games than we did last season too."
is the phrase that really matters

It came into our heads last night and I couldn't resist using it

brexit wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:44 am

"We’ve now won more home games than we did last season too."
is the phrase that really matters

It's a fact, but irrelevant really. Different league, different team, different manager and much much poorer opponents

I did wonder who would take the penalty and when Brownhill stepped forward, given his "wall or row Z" approach to free kicks, I wasn't filled with confidence....

Herts Clarets wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:20 pm

I did wonder who would take the penalty and when Brownhill stepped forward, given his "wall or row Z" approach to free kicks, I wasn't filled with confidence....

Me neither. It was a great pen, but surely our centre forward, who needs a goal, should be grabbing the ball?

That's the first time I can remember us winning a penalty with us having nobody on the pitch who's taken one before, as CT says in his article.

Would have like to have to see Foster demand it

Slurpy wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:35 pm

Would have like to have to see Foster demand it

Maybe an indication that his confidence needs raising or he is not single minded about his goals tally?

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:53 pm

Maybe an indication that his confidence needs raising or he is not single minded about his goals tally?

Or that Brownhill was the pre-agreed penalty taker.

Fretters wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:33 pm

Me neither. It was a great pen, but surely our centre forward, who needs a goal, should be grabbing the ball?

That's the first time I can remember us winning a penalty with us having nobody on the pitch who's taken one before, as CT says in his article.

It won’t often happen but did the last time we won a pen at Old Trafford that Zeki Amdouni scored.

Slurpy wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:35 pm

Would have like to have to see Foster demand it

Perhaps Josh had been pre nominated?

But you're right, I'd like to have seen Foster take it.

Jeeeez...

Whinging about who took the penalty now.

Wtf next?

I remember the myth that we never got penalties under SD because we didn't get in the penalty area often enough. And yet it didn't seem to improve that much when VK took over.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:22 pm

Jeeeez...

Whinging about who took the penalty now.

Wtf next?

Not a whinge from me, just a missed opportunity to give our striker a confidence-inducing goal IMO.

As I said though, great pen from Browny.

Fretters wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:50 pm

Not a whinge from me, just a missed opportunity to give our striker a confidence-inducing goal IMO.

So...a whinge then.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:11 pm

So...a whinge then.

If you like!

Let's hope that Hammering is on Saturday !

UTC

Fretters wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:50 pm

Not a whinge from me, just a missed opportunity to give our striker a confidence-inducing goal IMO.

As I said though, great pen from Browny.

I once spoke to Willie Irvine about pens because he never took them. He said pens were dead ball kicks and he thought those were the players who took them.

My only concern last night was Brownhill’s usual free kick delivery but I wouldn’t have wanted Foster taking it. Having said that, I didn’t think Barnes or Vokes would be good penalty takers but they were.

One of the worst regular takers we've had was Chris Eagles. He used to go in the same spot basically every time. Don't think his record was that bad for us though. Keepers probably didn't do the same amount of research as they would now.

Goliath wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:35 pm

One of the worst regular takers we've had was Chris Eagles. He used to go in the same spot basically every time. Don't think his record was that bad for us though. Keepers probably didn't do the same amount of research as they would now.

He missed two or three - one of them at Derby he scored the rebound. Everyone knew where he was going to put it.

David Eyres always seemed to go high into the top right corner. In the odd occasion he went the opposite way the keeper made a save!

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:55 pm

He missed two or three - one of them at Derby he scored the rebound. Everyone knew where he was going to put it.

Fair to say he wasn't the brightest player we've ever had

Good report. More or less echoing my thoughts.

'" It was hardly inspiring, not even the first half when we had our best spell, but this game is all about results "

I was thinking exactly the same as I walked back to the car.
It wasn't beautiful, it didn't fill me with joy, but we won.
We are doing better than almost all the other teams. The players are growing in confidence. The manager has cemented his position.
All the rest is frills around the edges.
We won

burnmark wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:08 pm

David Eyres always seemed to go high into the top right corner. In the odd occasion he went the opposite way the keeper made a save!

I'd say the best penalty takers I've seen at Burnley were Ron Futcher and Graeme Alexander.

They only missed one between them... I think!

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:30 pm

I once spoke to Willie Irvine about pens because he never took them. He said pens were dead ball kicks and he thought those were the players who took them.

My only concern last night was Brownhill’s usual free kick delivery but I wouldn’t have wanted Foster taking it. Having said that, I didn’t think Barnes or Vokes would be good penalty takers but they were.

I was convinced Vokes would miss each time, but he scored them all. But then he went to Stoke and I think he missed every one he took, or the majority anyway.

Our conversion rate over the last 10 years or so must be superb, I can only think of Cornet's miss at West Ham.

Fretters wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:41 pm

I was convinced Vokes would miss each time, but he scored them all. But then he went to Stoke and I think he missed every one he took, or the majority anyway.

Our conversion rate over the last 10 years or so must be superb, I can only think of Cornet's miss at West Ham.

The Cornet one was doubly annoying because he should never have taken it with Jay Rod on the pitch who doesn't seem to miss many from the spot.

Fretters wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:41 pm

I was convinced Vokes would miss each time, but he scored them all. But then he went to Stoke and I think he missed every one he took, or the majority anyway.

Our conversion rate over the last 10 years or so must be superb, I can only think of Cornet's miss at West Ham.

Arfield missed one at Palace in 2014 and the fateful Matt Taylor one against Leicester in the same season.

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:46 pm

I'd say the best penalty takers I've seen at Burnley were Ron Futcher and Graeme Alexander.

They only missed one between them... I think!

Grezza by a mile, though I recall Peter Noble was brilliant at pens.

burnmark wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:59 am

and the fateful Matt Taylor one against Leicester in the same season.

Ings missed (taking) that one!

Has to be Graeme Alexander whilst at Burnley I don't think he missed one in over three years.

I might be wrong with the three years.

yosserhughes wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:37 am

Has to be Graeme Alexander whilst at Burnley I don't think he missed one in over three years.

I might be wrong with the three years.

He missed one at the Cricket field end but can't remember who against

I think David James was the goalkeeper when Grezza missed that penalty, he put it wide.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:40 am

He missed one at the Cricket field end but can't remember who against

Bristol City. A lot of people cheered as he took it, expecting what seemed the inevitable.

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:15 am

Bristol City. A lot of people cheered as he took it, expecting what seemed the inevitable.

Good shouts from you and targetman. Couldn't remember who against and would never have remembered the keeper.

I do though remember it going wide and still thinking it had gone in though

Targetman wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:10 am

I think David James was the goalkeeper when Grezza missed that penalty, he put it wide.

He missed about three when he went back to Preston - those misses were a sure indication that it was time to hang up his boots.

In terms of our failures from the penalty spot, since Grezza & Eagles, I think these are the only ones where we've failed to score.

2013/14: Danny Ings v Millwall (h)
2014/15: Scott Arfield v Crystal Palace (a)
2014/15: Matt Taylor v Leicester (h)
2015/16: Andre Gray v Reading (a)
2021/22: Maxwel Cornet v West Ham (a)

"Only once in post-war football have they recorded a win, that by 2-0 in January 1977 on a frozen pitch. A League Cup win in 1973 is their only other Turf Moor success since 1938"

That makes their away following even more impressive

I remember the newspaper headline from 1973 being something like ‘the pirates of Plymouth surprise the Tartars of Turf Moor’ given our spectacular start back to life in Div 1

... and to think, I dont remember what my wife said we are having for tea tonight