Page 1 of 1

Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:24 pm
by bumba
When he's got so much pace why does he insist on coming inside everytime?
His best attribute is rapid pace, why not go past his man everytime and beat him for pace instead of running inside and in to bodies.
He really needs to work on his end product too because right now all I see is another Adama Traore

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:28 pm
by bfcjg
I think he should play up the middle Nathan Tella style.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:31 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
bumba wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:24 pm
When he's got so much pace why does he insist on coming inside everytime?
His best attribute is rapid pace, why not go past his man everytime and beat him for pace instead of running inside and in to bodies.
He really needs to work on his end product too because right now all I see is another Adama Traore
I think we need to lay off him, the pressure on him to create is crazy, before signing for us he had made 3 senior appearances, then just as he is coming to he does his knee and misses 9 months. He’s a raw talent who is going to make lots of mistakes.

Odobert had come off a full season in ligue 1 before signing for us

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:49 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:31 pm
I think we need to lay off him, the pressure on him to create is crazy, before signing for us he had made 3 senior appearances, then just as he is coming to he does his knee and misses 9 months. He’s a raw talent who is going to make lots of mistakes.

Odobert had come off a full season in ligue 1 before signing for us
He’s an interesting one, I personally think he’s struggling with the weight of expectations. Last season he was an unknown entity and impressed as the underdog, this season he’s been touted as a 30 odd million pound player.

He needs to start doing the basics, I agree with the OP he needs to start by getting the bi line and getting some crosses in

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:49 pm
by Cleveleys_claret
Because he knows if he makes it to the byline to put a cross in Foster won't be there

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:54 pm
by Quickenthetempo
He needs to spend a week or two training with Glenn Little and Robbie Blake.
Teach him end product and a football brain.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:56 pm
by Barlickclaret
Cleveleys_claret wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:49 pm
Because he knows if he makes it to the byline to put a cross in Foster won't be there
His end product is awful, nothing to do with foster. If 40m off wolves is still on in Jan. I'm sure he will get a lift off most on here free of charge.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:58 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:49 pm
He’s an interesting one, I personally think he’s struggling with the weight of expectations. Last season he was an unknown entity and impressed as the underdog, this season he’s been touted as a 30 odd million pound player.

He needs to start doing the basics, I agree with the OP he needs to start by getting the bi line and getting some crosses in
Today he was double up, sometimes tripled up. He needed help from Humphreys or Hannibal/brownhill to drag a player away from him.

There’s certainly times that koleosho does run into blind alleys and tries to do too much when he could play more simple.

If he was the finished article he wouldn’t of been available from Espanyol for 2m

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:08 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:58 pm
Today he was double up, sometimes tripled up. He needed help from Humphreys or Hannibal/brownhill to drag a player away from him.

There’s certainly times that koleosho does run into blind alleys and tries to do too much when he could play more simple.

If he was the finished article he wouldn’t of been available from Espanyol for 2m
I do agree, he should benefit from the return of Roberts.

I did find it a really strange decision to swap him over to the left just as we brought Roberts on.

I appreciate he’s not the finished product, but right now he is probably the most valuable player in this decision and there will be a lot of expectations on his shoulders

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:11 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:08 pm
I do agree, he should benefit from the return of Roberts.

I did find it a really strange decision to swap him over to the left just as we brought Roberts on.

I appreciate he’s not the finished product, but right now he is probably the most valuable player in this decision and there will be a lot of expectations on his shoulders
Yeah I didn’t understand moving him to the left either because as much we koleosho clearly prefers the left he looks a lot more comfortable from the right than Anthony.

This is why I would honestly try foster from the right, he could potentially play the tella position, even though he doesn’t have the same pace

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:15 pm
by cockneyclaret
Cleveleys_claret wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:49 pm
Because he knows if he makes it to the byline to put a cross in Foster won't be there
Foster or anyone.. it's been like that for the past few games.. no one there.. been needing 2 up front

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:16 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:11 pm
Yeah I didn’t understand moving him to the left either because as much we koleosho clearly prefers the left he looks a lot more comfortable from the right than Anthony.

This is why I would honestly try foster from the right, he could potentially play the tella position, even though he doesn’t have the same pace
I would personally start Sarmiento there and drop Anthony.

Foster and Flemming have got to be the central pair

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:18 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:16 pm
I would personally start Sarmiento there and drop Anthony.

Foster and Flemming have got to be the central pair
I think you are taking a massive part of Sarmientos game out to from the right because of his ability to cut in and whip and ball, but he is defo more comfortable than Anthony.

If Tresor is seriously in the thinking then he should surely be more than capable of playing from the right in the championship

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:33 pm
by beddie
Might we sell him in January and purchase 3 top Championship players?

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:34 pm
by TheFamilyCat
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:11 pm
Yeah I didn’t understand moving him to the left either because as much we koleosho clearly prefers the left he looks a lot more comfortable from the right than Anthony.

This is why I would honestly try foster from the right, he could potentially play the tella position, even though he doesn’t have the same pace
Not sure how you've come up with your Foster on the right idea but didn't you see him when shunted out there to play Fofana last season?

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:41 pm
by Cleveleys_claret
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:18 pm
I think you are taking a massive part of Sarmientos game out to from the right because of his ability to cut in and whip and ball, but he is defo more comfortable than Anthony.

If Tresor is seriously in the thinking then he should surely be more than capable of playing from the right in the championship
I have a feeling we will not see Tresor again

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:54 pm
by ElectroClaret
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:16 pm
I would personally start Sarmiento there and drop Anthony.
I have no idea why Sarmiento doesn't start.
Think he's one of the best we've got.

Just my opinion, but there you go.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:58 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
What is needed with a solid structure is some magic, that way we can have a solid base but the flair gets the wins. If we only have three attacking players they are easy to mark unless there is a trick, something to conjure up a goal or assist, because we don’t commit enough forward for overloads.

That clearly isn’t Luca or Anthony, or Lyle. We have a workmanlike side with a bit of pace but fairly orthodox delivery. I feel we also need something different. Tresor would be ideal. But I’m not sure Parker is the kind of guy to trust that kind of player. Sarmiento is more promising too.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:59 pm
by Wile E Coyote
Koleosho is a great talent, sometimes its the slower minded players who fail to react, or cant react when a speedier footballer creates openings. pointless carving a path through defences when there's nobody available to act on his skill.we have no one sharp enough around him to capitalise . we desperatley need some equally sharp striker to bang a few in.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:05 pm
by 123EasyasBFC
TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:34 pm
Not sure how you've come up with your Foster on the right idea but didn't you see him when shunted out there to play Fofana last season?
There’s a clear difference in the level of opposition this season

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:22 pm
by KRBFC
I mean he’s our ONLY real attacking threat, give the ball to Luca and hope he can make magic is our only attacking option. Easy for the opposition to just stick 3 players on him.

If he gets to the byline who is he crossing too? There’s never anybody in the box.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:27 am
by Commy
If Tresor was fit enough to go on loan in August why is he still unfit for us? I am sure no team would sign a player on loan who would still be unfit to play.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:39 am
by Hipper
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:16 pm
I would personally start Sarmiento there and drop Anthony.

Foster and Flemming have got to be the central pair
You'd drop our one player who actually tries to shoot - a slight exaggeration I know but yesterday he was our most likely scorer, not that that says much.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:43 am
by CoolClaret
bfcjg wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:28 pm
I think he should play up the middle Nathan Tella style.
With who we have available right now I agree - with Foster (wide forwards). Flemming just behind them.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:52 am
by LincsWoldsClaret
We haven’t scored a goal from open play in nearly 5 hours so something needs to change. Our main goal threat has come from Anthony’s (few) shots. No one runs past Foster into the box so Flemming seems the obvious choice to start and we need to commit another midfielder further forward.
Koleosho may run down the odd blind alley but he occupies defenders and we need to make the freedom that gives to the others count.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:14 am
by willsclarets
Koleosho and Anthony are receiving the ball in static situations with the opposition defence set and doubled up. The more defensive teams we've played are doing a Dyche; force the ball wide with a low block and defend from there.

As such he's trying too much when he does get the ball. It's not a lack of ability, he's simply attempting the impossible. The lack of a final product is a result of not being in positions to deliver it, rather than an inability to do so.

I agree with someone above who says fullbacks pushing on are key to that. But so is a 10 like flemming who can take the ball further up the pitch. Foster than becomes an option on the shoulder. Koleosho can move on the inside of their fullback to receive a pass, Roberts then gets space on the outside etc.

He's a top player with bags of ability. But he's trying too much because we're asking too much of him in situations that favour the defender.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:55 pm
by what_no_pies
Play him in his best position. He's wasted on the right. Also, given how high Preston defended that we never really looked to exploit his pace in behind was unforgivable. We worked that tactic well in Parkers first game and yesterday was crying out for it.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:18 pm
by Robbie_painter
Like a speedboat with no driver.Run Forrest run.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 4:44 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
I’d play Kolesho up front with Fleming and get Sarmiento on the wing alongside Anthony.

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:15 pm
by Folkestoneclaret
Like a Kolly he boxes them in
Like they're all set to watch only him
He can run like an arrow
But the rest are too narrow
Needs more thrust on the opposite wing

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:18 pm
by AGENT_CLARET
Commy wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:27 am
If Tresor was fit enough to go on loan in August why is he still unfit for us? I am sure no team would sign a player on loan who would still be unfit to play.
We did, Flemming

Re: Koleosho

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:50 pm
by willsclarets
Commy wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:27 am
If Tresor was fit enough to go on loan in August why is he still unfit for us? I am sure no team would sign a player on loan who would still be unfit to play.
A picture on insta is hardly conclusive of anything, but in my monthly "where is Mike Tresor" check, his posts from 6 days ago suggests he isn't in the North West of England at the moment!

I hope I'm wrong but I can't see Tresor pulling on a Burnley shirt again.