Was it offside? They got several replays of it and every time I got the impression that it was not

I’ve only seen a still image from it and not a replay but if it’s the one, then he was way onside - he wasn’t even the furthest PNE player forward

Looks on to me

Yep definitely onside. That’s two we’ve lucked out on so far this season. Refs definitely subconsciously favour the bigger clubs

It was onside, no doubt.

As previously mentioned though, Trafford definitely clocked the flag and made a half- arsed dive to 'stop' the shot.

X3 Burnley players playing him onside

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:32 am

X3 Burnley players playing him onside

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AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:38 am

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I take it that you’re taking the p1ss with that line?

Surely the line would be parallel to the lines in the grass?

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Glad your not on VAR with that line, not even close to be straight

Are you saying he was offside RV?

A good inventive free kick as well rather than launching it aimlessly into the box.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:42 am

Are you saying he was offside RV?

No, just can’t be serious with the line

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:43 am

No, just can’t be serious with the line

Just checking

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:39 am

I take it that you’re taking the p1ss with that line?

I as wondering how he’s done it that way then realised gon off lines of the area which distorts perspective of angle

Not accurate more better I’ve lines the left edge agains the cut marking in the BL side

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:42 am

A good inventive free kick as well rather than launching it aimlessly into the box.

Brady usually takes those free kicks and was standing next to the ball as well. I think they outfoxed us

Well at least his shadow is offside!

Wasn’t a free kick in the first place

I’m going to say he was offside. Good call by the lino.

If you play it again the PNE player definitely takes a step back to try to look onside the liner spotted that,however regardless of the stepback hecwas onside when the ball was played so the idiot made up the liners mind

I watched it several times and froze it at several points. Looked just offside. Anyway, as stated above, Trafford didn't really try and save it.

I can’t be arsed doing my own edit but there are only two lines to go off, the edge of the penalty area and the cut of the grass that passes through the top PNE player. I would suggest it is a lot closer than first glance makes it appear.
Great FK though. Our boys were asleep.

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:45 am

I as wondering how he’s done it that way then realised gon off lines of the area which distorts perspective of angle

Not accurate more better I’ve lines the left edge agains the cut marking in the BL side

Still onside, but looks a lot closer with the line added.

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:45 am

I as wondering how he’s done it that way then realised gon off lines of the area which distorts perspective of angle

Not accurate more better I’ve lines the left edge agains the cut marking in the BL side

That’s as bad as Agent Claret’s line the guy was at least a metre onside.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:39 am

I take it that you’re taking the p1ss with that line?

Okay who would you say is nearest to the edge of the box line ?????

He was onside, but we probably should have had a penalty as well, both teams penalised by crap officials.

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Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:27 am

Okay who would you say is nearest to the edge of the box line ?????


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I don't think they were questioning if he was offside; he wasn't. But your original line was nowhere near correct. It shows how hard VAR officials have it when fans can't get anywhere near with the lines.

SalouClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:10 am

I don't think they were questioning if he was offside; he wasn't. But your original line was nowhere near correct. It shows how hard VAR officials have it when fans can't get anywhere near with the lines.

Exactly. I’m not say my lines were correct either, but it would be some way between the two of mine and A_C

I’ve not seen anybody saying he was offside other than the official

Foster had an identical one in the second half which was flagged, but didn't look off to me. The Preston cheerleaders on the Comms didn't question it.

Most of the pictures online are very distorted.
It's about single-point perspective. The pitch markings will vanish to a point on the horizon. ie. the gap between the stripes on the pitch are narrower the further away from the camera and wider the closer to the camera.

I still think it is marginally onside but not as clear cut as earlier photos showed.

I thought it was onside in real-time, too. Ah well, our gain in a way. But perhaps it would have forced us to actually attack with determination. Who knows.

Payback for when they got a penalty when Eddie Lewis dived for a penalty. What made it worse he was parallel with the box not in it

I was pretty much level with it and the guy behind me immediately shouted "offside" and I said "he isn't" and then the flag went up as he scored, so I assumed it was me who was wrong. Turns out I wasn't!

I thought it was onside but it looks tighter then I thought from TV and therefore a similar decision to the Leeds goal - not easy to judge - VAR needed!

If Trafford reacted to the flag and not the whistle he should be told off. In fact I don't believe he did. It was just a top finish which he couldn't save.

Our defensive line is poor and that's where we were at fault. Why are the furthest three Burnley players so far nearer our goal?

It was miles onside.

This does exactly highlight the reason offside is not signalled by the linos in VAR games so the goal would have stood via VAR if he was onside.
Jimmy Robbo is right about the vanishing point of the images and VAR will have sophisticated modelling of the pitch images.
IMO it was a very close call and we were lucky

The linesman was as poor as the referee, got a number of decisions incorrect throughout the game as he was often not in line with the forward players. Most linespeople I know seem to base offside on how far in front of the defenders you get the ball!

I think Nixon is correct

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Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:34 pm

The linesman was as poor as the referee, got a number of decisions incorrect throughout the game as he was often not in line with the forward players. Most linespeople I know seem to base offside on how far in front of the defenders you get the ball!

The one in the second half when he flags Anthony offside from a free kick was the worst of the lot.

Remember that we aren't applying PL rules here. If two players appear to be level but microscopic examination suggests that one man's toenail is a quarter inch ahead of the other's eyelash, then that would be offside in the PL but onside in the Championship.

The Preston man should only have been flagged if he was in front of the last defender by normal eyesight. He clearly was not in front, he was level or behind, therefore onside.

Personally I couldn't care less if it was onside or offside ... The linesman flagged it and the ref blew his whistle straight away ...

To be fair to linespeople, Trying to look across the line AND gauge when the ball is kicked is a difficult art, even the VAR computer often struggles to determine whether a player is off or onside at the exact moment the ball is kicked due to the 12fps that the printer/scanner can capture

bfcmik wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:17 pm

To be fair to linespeople, Trying to look across the line AND gauge when the ball is kicked is a difficult art, even the VAR computer often struggles to determine whether a player is off or onside at the exact moment the ball is kicked due to the 12fps that the printer/scanner can capture

You're right. It's virtually impossible. Depending on the proximity between the players and lino, the latter goes off the sound of the ball being hit.

LincsWoldsClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:57 am

Wasn’t a free kick in the first place

Exactly

Just a quick question. Have the officials confirmed it was for offside everyone is assuming that because the Assistant Referee flagged. How was the game restarted was it a direct or indirect free kick?

Imagine the time they would have wasted had the goal been given.

winsomeyen wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:56 am

Imagine the time they would have wasted had the goal been given.

Imagine how we might have stepped up our game if the goal had stood! We might even have had more efforts at goal and more on target.

Never mind the offside goal what about the possible penalty the bottom of Anthony’s shirt was nearly 2feet away from his body why was that not a penalty? The ref and his assistants lost control of the match and that made a poor game even worse an experienced could have saved Brownhill a booking but he chose to back away from the incident leaving Brownhill more time to vent his anger