• Tresor

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:43 pm**

When is he gonna be back and making an impact? He's supposedly training and fit...

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:43 am**

dvalley69 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:43 pm
When is he gonna be back and making an impact? He's supposedly training and fit...

Don't....... I asked something similar the other day and was lambasted with one poster suggesting I wanted to know private medical information on the players, and also SP isn't qualified to comment as he isn't medically trained.
Another poster suggested providing such information would be like leaking team news to our opponents.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:37 am**

Move on we have better.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:04 am**

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:37 am
Move on we have better.

The thing is, we don't KNOW that.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:49 am**

Don't hold your breath waiting for Tresor to make an appearance.He was pronounced fit over six weeks ago,and yet hasn't even played any part in an U21 game. Someone has already said the if he got his move in August he would be fit and playing by now,my thoughts exactly. The club has spent a lot of money in wages, agent fees,loan fees and last but not least transfer fee and he has contributed nothing, absolutely nothing in return.He can proudly hold the record as the clubs biggest waste of money ever.I hope he proves me wrong.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:52 am**

‘He’ll be like a new signing’

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:00 am**

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:37 am
Move on we have better.

We truly don't

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:25 am**

And i got hammered for saying these guys should not be payed or be on reduced wages if they dont play.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:25 am**

Blyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:25 am
And i got hammered for saying these guys should not be payed or be on reduced wages if they dont play.

Yet again, correctly so

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:31 am**

We have been robbed blind by Tresor for last 2 years and he hasent broken sweat for the club.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:31 am**

Blyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:25 am
And i got hammered for saying these guys should not be payed or be on reduced wages if they dont play.

If you went to work today and had an accident that wasn't your fault and had to have time of work you would be fine with your work place reducing your wage ?

If you say yes then you will either be stupid or lying

If you say no then you would be a hypocrite

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:34 am**

Im an employer. If my employee was constantly out sick. I would pay them off and get rid.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:35 am**

The club cant continue to pay a wage to a player that is not mentally or physically willing or able to present to play for the first team.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:35 am**

Blyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:34 am
Im an employer. If my employee was constantly out sick. I would pay them off and get rid.

So if you had a member of staff ( I am taking your word that you employ people but there is some doubt) that was hurt while working for you, then you would basically get rid ?

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:58 am**

Blyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:34 am
Im an employer. If my employee was constantly out sick. I would pay them off and get rid.

What about if other companies were able to buy your employees?

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:01 am**

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:58 am
What about if other companies were able to buy your employees?

Why would they want to if those employees were permanently incapacitated?

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:05 am**

The recent Q&A thread interpreted that the official line from the club hierarchy was that he was expected to feature again in 2 weeks.
If he's not on the field of play at the beginning of November then I doubt he ever will be.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:24 am**

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:01 am
Why would they want to if those employees were permanently incapacitated?

They wouldn’t. But then Tresor isn’t permanently incapacitated.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:28 am**

As has been said above, and as I said a few weeks ago-had he got his move in August he would be playing for that club now

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:28 am**

When he's fit he's useless

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:36 am**

Ignoring the nonsense about not paying him (which doesn't need ten people to argue against), the answer to the OP is probably that we'll see him back and making an impact in January, for a different team.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:38 am**

She wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:28 am
When he's fit he's useless

How do you know?

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:55 am**

I think we might see him on the bench soon.
But we shall see.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:04 am**

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:36 am
Ignoring the nonsense about not paying him (which doesn't need ten people to argue against), the answer to the OP is probably that we'll see him back and making an impact in January, for a different team.

My instinct too.

Given we know Parker is a good man manager, I do feel for him inheriting this kind of situation. A player like Tresor can be a game changer for a team like ours, giving some creativity to a team who are very risk averse and, at times, boring. I’ve wanted a longer run for Tresor for a year now (Kompany never gave him a go even before he was ill), but I simply cannot see it happening for whatever reason.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:19 am**

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:24 am
They wouldn’t. But then Tresor isn’t permanently incapacitated.

He's doing a bloody good impression of it.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:28 am**

You'd think pretty soon if you believe the party line coming from the club, that he will be involved on the bench in the coming weeks. Our bench was very thin last night with no Sarmiento.

My gut instinct (and I very much hope I'm wrong) is that he will pickup another "knock" soon, and then he will be off in Jan.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:30 am**

For the hire ‘em, fire ‘em guys wouldn’t his salary be covered by insurance?

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:39 am**

He’s definitely training and he’s appeared on several videos on the clubs Instagram lately as well as training gallery. Seems happy enough here (this week).

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:49 am**

Blyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:34 am
Im an employer. If my employee was constantly out sick. I would pay them off and get rid.

You’d do that even if they were legally entitled to 3 or 4 years of wages and to refuse even a penny less than that ?
What would be the point if there was chance that he or she may return to “work” or in the case of footballers somebody else take him off your hands and save you some of the wages you would have to pay him ?

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:16 pm**

Big Vinny K wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:49 am
You’d do that even if they were legally entitled to 3 or 4 years of wages and to refuse even a penny less than that ?
What would be the point if there was chance that he or she may return to “work” or in the case of footballers somebody else take him off your hands and save you some of the wages you would have to pay him ?

There sure are some unscrupulous employers out there.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:21 pm**

He does look happy in that photo. Hopefully we'll see him with one of those green bibs on in the next photo.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:23 pm**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:39 am
He’s definitely training and he’s appeared on several videos on the clubs Instagram lately as well as training gallery. Seems happy enough here (this week).

I'd be happy getting paid to do feck all.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:36 pm**

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:36 am
Ignoring the nonsense about not paying him (which doesn't need ten people to argue against), the answer to the OP is probably that we'll see him back and making an impact in January, for a different team.

The club certainly has a decision to make on Mike. Letting him go in January could be a big risk though. His value has already dropped since he arrived. If he were to go out on loan and either not play or not perform his value will drop even further. I'd rather try to reintegrate and put him in the shop window. The lad must have more than enough for the Championship surely?

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:36 pm**

All companies have ways of getting rid of troublesome staff. Its called managing them out.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:38 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:16 pm
There sure are some unscrupulous employers out there.

If an employee is troublesome and not doing their job only one place for them.
The gate.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:15 pm**

Blyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:38 pm
If an employee is troublesome and not doing their job only one place for them.
The gate.

God forbid someone should be injured or ill, eh?

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:19 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:15 pm
God forbid someone should be injured or ill, eh?

Imagine the response to maternity pay

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:25 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:15 pm
God forbid someone should be injured or ill, eh?

I don't think anyone said that he was injured,just that he had health issues and was ok more that 6 weeks ago.It remains to be seen how "unwell"or injured he has been.Like someone has already said,if there is no sign of him on the next couple of weeks,we will know that health is not the real problem

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:26 pm**

gtclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:25 pm
I don't think anyone said that he was injured,just that he had health issues and was ok more that 6 weeks ago.It remains to be seen how "unwell"or injured he has been.Like someone has already said,if there is no sign of him on the next couple of weeks,we will know that health is not the real problem

I'm guessing you're either a mental health specialist or a physiotherapist?

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:46 pm**

I was not aware that it was a mental health issue,the club didn't say that,just that it was health issues.I guessing it was Idontwanttoplayforburnleyites.There were comments about his attitude when he signed, certainly when he played against Luton and now,so long after being pronounced fit,not even an U21 game.
If he was a free transfer he would have been gone in August and it would have been interesting to see how "injured" he was, but we had just paid £13m for him and the club couldn't let him go for less.
I don't need to be medically qualified to know when we're being had,and I think Tresor is taking the pss.I really hope I'm wrong and in a few weeks I'made to eat my words

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:10 pm**

Same squad for Saturday according to the presser, so no Mike again this weekend

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:14 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:15 pm
God forbid someone should be injured or ill, eh?

I know it sounds harsh. But business is business. If a person is ill and cannot attend work or fulfill their duties an employer can not be asked to pay wages indefinitely.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:18 pm**

Blyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:14 pm
I know it sounds harsh. But business is business. If a person is ill and cannot attend work or fulfill their duties an employer can not be asked to pay wages indefinitely.

It's not really about being harsh. It's the law.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:23 pm**

gtclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:25 pm
I don't think anyone said that he was injured,just that he had health issues and was ok more that 6 weeks ago.It remains to be seen how "unwell"or injured he has been.Like someone has already said,if there is no sign of him on the next couple of weeks,we will know that health is not the real problem

Maybe he's still not fit (mentally or physically), maybe SP doesn't rate him, or maybe he just hasn't got the right attitude to be considered.

Until the manager chooses to tell us, it's pure conjecture.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:34 pm**

What I saw of him last season I thought he was bloody awful. I sincerely hope he proves me wrong because we need some decent attacking players.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:35 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:15 pm
God forbid someone should be injured or ill, eh?

Yes but there is also 'Swinging a leg'. I think that's what some comments are suggesting in this case.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:35 pm**

I suspect that he's probably now physically fit, but it's more about attitude and desire. Parker has a fair few options without the need to cajole and pander to a guy who almost certainly doesn't want to be here. He's training and keeping himself in shape with the understanding on all sides that he's extremely unlikely to be called on to actually play and he'll be allowed to leave for decent money (but almost certainly a financial loss) in January. I'm just guessing, but that seems the most likely scenario imo.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:38 pm**

Stayingup wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:35 pm

Is that what you think Tresor is doing? "Swinging a leg?"

Or is it "swinging the lead?"

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:00 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:23 pm
Maybe he's still not fit (mentally or physically), maybe SP doesn't rate him, or maybe he just hasn't got the right attitude to be considered.

Until the manager chooses to tell us, it's pure conjecture.

I think SP has already stated that he knows his quality from his time in Belgium and he has already shown how good he is in training.
The disrespect this lad gets on here is embarrassing. I admit, it's been a bit of a strange situation but the constant barrage of abuse isn't right. None of us know his situation.
People's opinions are based on cameo appearances in a team that very few players come out of the season with much credit.
People on here had similar options on Amdouni. In the very limited appearances he made this season before he left, he looked a cut above. Tresor could well be the same. (He can't be any worse than Anthony)
I for 1 can't wait to get him in the team to see what he can do.
If it doesn't work out then so be it.
Until then, he's a Burnley player and deserves our support.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:36 pm**

You say some readers are disrespectful of Tresor then you go on to say he cannot be any worse than Anthony
Anthony has only been with us 2 months but has already made a major contribution to our performances and results .Whats Tresor done in 14 months ?

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