I thought we passed the ball quicker and had far better movement today, it really reminded me of the early VK games. Top end is a huge problem though and I'm not sure we have anyone at the moment who can change it. Roberts was good and offered plenty. Everything but the most important part.

Can’t cross a ball. No threat out wide. Clueless in final third

I thought we were much better today. But still a whole host of issues alongside an inability to score

It wasn't just the goal we were missing

That was QPR’s first clean sheet this season. That speaks volumes I think.

two unbelievable blocks, from Cook and Dunne, stopped us going in 2-0 at half time btw

Redmond will fire us to promotion,when fit

A sensible OP! Completely agree with your comments.

blatherwickstattoos wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:09 pm

Can’t cross a ball. No threat out wide. Clueless in final third

There was some pretty decent play in the final third today in comparison to other games. Unfortunately we weren’t quite sharp enough. Agree with the wingers, both had ample opportunities and 1 on 1 chances but lacked anything. If we had a fit team you’d be bringing Benson and Sarmiento on and we probably nick the goal.

We were toothless yet again. We never made their keeper work, that speaks volumes.

Another slow turgid boring performance. Parkerball stinks

I don't want to talk about it...

Much better performance today. For many of the last handful of games we didn't look like doing anything. But today there was a better intensity to the passing and moving that meant we atleast looked like we could create. It's a step in the right direction.

I hope Parker is feeling brave enough to only play 2 CMs instead of 3 which will allow Flemming to drop into his best position. Perhaps we'll have to wait for Fosters return before that happens

One winger who doesn't want to take his man on and another who runs straight into players.

When they do get into space their crossing is abysmal, it doesn't matter who is in the box, they won't score without service.

This isn't knee jerk, it's been the case so often this season, if Anthony doesn't get some confidence from taking his man on and the consequences of it on Wednesday then he never will.

The defence is rock solid, but they are keeping us in the hunt for promotion not the forward thinking players

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:08 pm

I thought we passed the ball quicker and had far better movement today, it really reminded me of the early VK games. Top end is a huge problem though and I'm not sure we have anyone at the moment who can change it. Roberts was good and offered plenty. Everything but the most important part.

Totally agree. It’s like it has clicked apart from the final third.

Literally attack vs defence without an end product.
Trafford did not actually make 1 save today.

Lot of corners 16 and 18 attempts at goal.. just not got a lethality up front.

Goalposts wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:41 pm

Literally attack vs defence without an end product.
Trafford did not actually make 1 save today.

Lot of corners 16 and 18 attempts at goal.. just not got a lethality up front.

Their keeper didn't make any save worthy of note either.

I envy those who are able to put a positive spin on today, to be honest. I came off the Turf feeling really angry. To hand QPR their first clean sheet of the season in our own backyard is just unforgivable, we didn’t look like we had a clue how to score all game.

ClaretAL wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:38 pm

Totally agree. It’s like it has clicked apart from the final third.

yep that's what it felt like, today was the first time i've seen consistent patterns of play and movement. Just a reminder, VK's team lost to this lot

Beagle wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:44 pm

I envy those who are able to put a positive spin on today, to be honest. I came off the Turf feeling really angry. To hand QPR their first clean sheet of the season in our own backyard is just unforgivable, we didn’t look like we had a clue how to score all game.

Fair to feel like that, I would say.

Beagle wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:44 pm

I envy those who are able to put a positive spin on today, to be honest. I came off the Turf feeling really angry. To hand QPR their first clean sheet of the season in our own backyard is just unforgivable, we didn’t look like we had a clue how to score all game.

we didn't hand it to them - they made two superb blocks in the first half to stop us scoring. We could easily have been two up at half time

Agree with the many positive comments. Fleming still searching for match fitness but it is coming. QPR defended excellently and we are not a side yet that is savvy enough to find ways to win a match.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:45 pm

we didn't hand it to them - they made two superb blocks in the first half to stop us scoring. We could easily have been two up at half time

We could have been ten up at full time if we knew how to score.

We are all fart and no ****

75% possession 16 corners and there keeper didn't have a decent save to make. Would love to see the stats on how many of our passes go backwards. Awful to watch.

You get them matches sometimes where you know it’s just not going to be your day. I have heard of a stat of 18 shots today whether that is true or not I’m not sure but it’s fair to say especially in the Dyche era plenty of teams came to us and annulated us but didn’t score. Just one of them days.

People must have been watching a different game to me. Lots of possession without the keeper having any save to make. Wingers who don’t want to beat a man on the outside, no willingness to play an incisive ball (Roberts aside).
Under Kompany, when we were drawing early on, I could see where and how things were going to change when it clicked. I don’t think it will click this season, as far as I can see, this is how it will be all season.
We will limp into a playoff position, but this league is so bad, with the squad we still have, we should be dominating.

Delusional we’re not good enough

ClaretAL wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:38 pm

Totally agree. It’s like it has clicked apart from the final third.

The final third………..

Yep……………it’s really clicked across the defence and defensive midfield.

Jimmymaccer wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:56 pm

The final third………..

Yep……………it’s really clicked across the defence and defensive midfield.

Was you there mate? As one of the passing and movement in attacking midfield was fantastic. We didn’t need a defensive midfield, it was attacking all match.

Les Lawrence wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:16 pm

Redmond will fire us to promotion,when fit

We can maybe seek solace in Redmond, and potentially Tresor at some point but these characters seem to be perennial sick notes and when/if they finally become match sharp, the likes of Sunderland, Sheffield United and maybe dirty Leeds will have steamed past us. The last couple of games demonstrate that we're struggling to get the ball into the net against the poorest teams in the league. Word will get around...."lads it's Burnley next week...pack the defence, we'll get a draw and if we rag a goal we might even bags 3 points...Burnley can't score from an open goal".

I think more thaan anything it has shown that we need two strikers who can actually shoot and acore goals. Foster, JRod and Houdini just can't cut it. Playing Flemming as a lone striker shows how desperate we are, he's a 10 and definitely not a lone striker. Just hope something happens in January.

Same old same old

Can't beat QPR at home. Says it all really. Meh !

Thought 90% of what we did today was very good, and a big improvement on some recent performances. We zipped the ball around quickly and played almost the entire game in QPR’s half. But there is a reluctance to run in behind, both wingers want the ball to feet but never look for the give and go. Koleosho in particular makes the wrong decision more often than not. Fleming got on the end of a few chances but isn’t a fox in the box.

Considering the number of players on our books the subs we had at our disposal were inadequate and nothing to change the game.

The positive is that we’re second in the league without having clicked into gear. The negative being we’ve thrown away too many points in recent weeks in a favourable run of games, and there will be some much tougher tests to come.

I can’t see the January transfer window making a huge difference, it rarely does, but how we’re crying out for a Nathan Tella right now.

I thought 10 points from this run of 6 games between the international breaks would be a very decent return.

5 from 3 so far.

I thought Parker’s comment after the game was interesting, these players aren’t used to playing in teams where the opposition park the bus and need to learn how to create the spaces to create the chances.

I thought we were a lot better today than against Rovers, PNE and Hull first half in particular. Big shift from the team and felt for them today because they deserved a break and didn’t quite get it.

Still plenty to work on but taking 2nd place all day long.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:20 pm

We were toothless yet again. We never made their keeper work, that speaks volumes.

Another slow turgid boring performance. Parkerball stinks

I hate shopping so I don't go

I hate horror films so don't watch them

I don't understand opera so give it a swerve

If something stinks, and you don't enjoy it, why do you watch it?

It is a fact that none of the clubs currently playing in the Championship possess a striker capable of scoring 27 goals as Szmodics managed last season. Leading up to this current round of fixtures the most common score lines in the Championship have been 1-1, 1-0 and as today 0-0. In the absence of prolific strikers clubs are looking to defensive solidity and hoping to nick a win by the odd goal.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:39 pm

Thought 90% of what we did today was very good, and a big improvement on some recent performances. We zipped the ball around quickly and played almost the entire game in QPR’s half. But there is a reluctance to run in behind, both wingers want the ball to feet but never look for the give and go. Koleosho in particular makes the wrong decision more often than not. Fleming got on the end of a few chances but isn’t a fox in the box.

Considering the number of players on our books the subs we had at our disposal were inadequate and nothing to change the game.

The positive is that we’re second in the league without having clicked into gear. The negative being we’ve thrown away too many points in recent weeks in a favourable run of games, and there will be some much tougher tests to come.

I can’t see the January transfer window making a huge difference, it rarely does, but how we’re crying out for a Nathan Tella right now.

Yes and maybe a Zaroury and a (younger) Barnes - some passion. I don't really understand why we sold Zaroury. He's better than what played today out wide. Tella was superb.

IrkthePurists wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:04 pm

I thought 10 points from this run of 6 games between the international breaks would be a very decent return.

5 from 3 so far.

I thought Parker’s comment after the game was interesting, these players aren’t used to playing in teams where the opposition park the bus and need to learn how to create the spaces to create the chances.

I thought we were a lot better today than against Rovers, PNE and Hull first half in particular. Big shift from the team and felt for them today because they deserved a break and didn’t quite get it.

Still plenty to work on but taking 2nd place all day long.

Yes but QPR though they defended well are not a goid team at all.

Stayingup wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:02 pm

Yes and maybe a Zaroury and a (younger) Barnes - some passion. I don't really understand why we sold Zaroury. He's better than what played today out wide. Tella was superb.

It's easy to understand, he refused to play

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U56Ns66Qrb8

Missing sums up today tbh

Row x wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:06 pm

It's easy to understand, he refused to play

Yes, but why? He was happily engaged enough at Luton. What changed?

It's pretty obvious we lack both technical quality and pace in the final third. None of Anthony, Koleosho, Brownhill and Laurent are players who particularly have a killer pass in their locker, and only Koleosho has pace and the ability to beat a man regularly (and even he isn't doing that consistently). Flemming compensates to.an extent (he made us more cohesive today) but it's abundantly obvious that we didn't replace Gudmundsson (the sort of player we were crying out for today) or Zaroury with equal quality. As a result we're not committing defenders or picking passes to unlock a massed defence. Nor have we replaced Vitinho, who in this sort of game regularly made the difference by adding pace and attacking instinct from full back to overwhelm a defence.

We cant add pace from full back because we dont have it (although Pires has to start these sorts of games because he can pick a pass and create chances) but one saving grace is that we have several players due back from injury who should help rectify that. Most of those may be some way from fitness but we really should expect to see Tresor soon. Teams were making loan offers for him in August so presumably they expected him fit enough to participate round about now at the latest, and we really could have done with his sort of quality, if only from the bench, today. If he's not in the shake up got Millwall questions will need to be asked.

We need to be more aggressive in our attacks.

DanH90 wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:55 pm

People must have been watching a different game to me. Lots of possession without the keeper having any save to make. Wingers who don’t want to beat a man on the outside, no willingness to play an incisive ball (Roberts aside).
Under Kompany, when we were drawing early on, I could see where and how things were going to change when it clicked. I don’t think it will click this season, as far as I can see, this is how it will be all season.
We will limp into a playoff position, but this league is so bad, with the squad we still have, we should be dominating.

Really. Please don't pretend we battered every team under Kompany. We scraped several last minute winners when we didn't deserve them. If you're so unhappy with where we are in the table with a team that came together in August, with several attacking options unavailable , then I'm stunned.

These lads need support not boos, our support base really has turned into an entitled bunch that expects teams just to roll over for us.

Stayingup wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:02 pm

Yes and maybe a Zaroury and a (younger) Barnes - some passion. I don't really understand why we sold Zaroury. He's better than what played today out wide. Tella was superb.

I mentioned on the thread regarding the Q&A with the chairman and Mr Williams. Zaroury wanted to leave, although Parker tried to persuade him other wise, his thoughts were I've helped this club get promoted once, and not got a chance to play, why should I do it again, and who can blame him?

Kompany was 100% to blame for Zaroury wanting out.

RalphCoatesComb wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:24 pm

Same old same old

Can't beat QPR at home. Says it all really. Meh !

They beat us last time so it's a point gained .

ClaretAL wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:01 pm

Was you there mate? As one of the passing and movement in attacking midfield was fantastic. We didn’t need a defensive midfield, it was attacking all match.

Yes “I was there mate”………………..as ever…………if that was fantastic we just differ in terms of the word fantastic.

Ffs.

During the Championship season of 2019/20 when the division had attacking players of the quality of Mitrovic, Ollie Watkins, Brian Mbuemo and Said Benrama the season ended with 32 matches ending 0-0, which equates to just 5.7%.
In the Championship season to date there have thus far been 15 matches that have ended goalless, which equates to 10.5%.
It’s not just Burnley that are struggling in front of goal this season.

What is so frustrating this season and yesterday highlighted it ,is that if we had a proper fit and motivated striker then apart from Sunderland away I genuinely think we would have won every game.

The desert certainly missed the rain

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:31 pm

Really. Please don't pretend we battered every team under Kompany. We scraped several last minute winners when we didn't deserve them. If you're so unhappy with where we are in the table with a team that came together in August, with several attacking options unavailable , then I'm stunned.

These lads need support not boos, our support base really has turned into an entitled bunch that expects teams just to roll over for us.

We only had three last minute (85 mins or more) winners, against Reading, Rotherham, and West Brom. Of those, only Rotherham had a case to say that they didn't deserve to lose.

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:41 pm

They beat us last time so it's a point gained .

But we beat Sunderland ,Blackburn,Preston and Hull so that’s 9 points lost.