How it took Parker 73mins to see we didn't need Cullen (as good as he is) on the pitch is mind boggling. QPR offered absolutely zero in terms of attacking intent. Genuinely can't believe what I've just watched and how that panned out. We were head and shoulders better other than the desire to score a goal. Fair paly to them. They came, they saw and we allowed them to conquer a draw. Terrible from Parker. I came away angry with that

I'm baffled by his formation against QPR. They have kept a clean sheet all season till now. Yet we play 1 up top

The people enthusiastically telling us he would use different systems for different games look to have been rather wrong. It's keep it tight and hope for the best every game.

I think some people just want to win every game and throw their dummy out of the cot if we don't

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:52 pm

I think some people just want to win every game and throw their dummy out of the cot if we don't

Tbf, they probably just want to beat a crap QPR team at home when we're promotion hopefuls and they're struggling!

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:52 pm

I think some people just want to win every game

The nerve!

Bar the Luton game which was excellent, this as been the game plan ever since absolutely turgid to watch wether we get a win or draw it's so dull of entertainment. Never thought I would be contemplating doing something else on a Saturday but christ on a bike sp needs to up the ante quickly or the boos will be the norm after the abject displays on offer.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:52 pm

I think some people just want to win every game and throw their dummy out of the cot if we don't

At home to a team second bottom who haven't kept a clean sheet all season, it should not be a big ask for a win.

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:55 pm

Tbf, they probably just want to beat a crap QPR team at home when we're promotion hopefuls and they're struggling!

That doesn't always happen DC and QPR were far from crap I thought. The good news is we are still promotion hopefuls

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:29 pm

The people enthusiastically telling us he would use different systems for different games look to have been rather wrong. It's keep it tight and hope for the best every game.

It was Parker himself who said that. Although it was after the Luton game when he had a much bigger and better squad to pock from/keep happy.

Im going to spoil the run next week.

Im backing a draw and 0-0 at HT.

That’ll ‘F’ it all up!

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:01 pm

That doesn't always happen DC and QPR were far from crap I thought. The good news is we are still promotion hopefuls

The only reason you thought QPR were far from crap was because Burnley were so lethargic as an attacking force it was so easy just to sit behind the ball, and just wait for us to go backwards it's so negative it's unbelievable to watch, don't forget there is a reason QPR are BOTTOM of the table and haven't had a clean sheet until today!!!

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:52 pm

I think some people just want to win every game and throw their dummy out of the cot if we don't

Or see what is blindingly obvious and comment on it. What did you disagree with in what I said Elizabeth?

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:01 pm

That doesn't always happen DC and QPR were far from crap I thought. The good news is we are still promotion hopefuls

And I agree Elizabeth (up to a point!) Even under Kompany as we steamrollered to the Championship, we didn't win absolutely every game. Ironically,QPR at home on the promotion run in was one. BUT, if those games are clearly "blips" when things weirdly conspire against us and the Gods frustrate us and we end up with a crap result, it's one thing. This atm is becoming a habit. Games where we are easily frustrated and blunted are becoming the norm and that's not a promotion team (imo).

The general mood on here is good tonight DC despite only drawing and while I don't think anybody thinks it is perfect most are refraining from what I said earlier . There is definitely an element who panic too easily and that does not include you

In his own words from the Radio Lancs interview "A team that are going to practically put 11 men inside their own box". Yet we play 1 upfront. I can't understand the logic

He makes a Sean Dyche side look gung ho.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:01 pm

That doesn't always happen DC and QPR were far from crap I thought. The good news is we are still promotion hopefuls

How far away would you say? I thought they were quite close to be honest.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:52 pm

I think some people just want to win every game and throw their dummy out of the cot if we don't

Flippin loonies.
We should be happy keeping things tight at home to bottom of the League.

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:23 pm

He makes a Sean Dyche side look gung ho.

I spat my beer out.

Cheers for that

Parker's words after the match today;

"The performance was arguably our best performance of the season"

What a damning indictment of his own management.

Mattster wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:57 pm

Parker's words after the match today;

"The performance was arguably our best performance of the season"

What a damning indictment of his own management.

Why? Did you think we were worse than previously this season today? If so which bit? I presume the goals scored column, but outside of th we were massively improved.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:01 pm

That doesn't always happen DC and QPR were far from crap I thought. The good news is we are still promotion hopefuls

I'd be interested to know your definition of crap.

burnley007 wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:54 pm

Flippin loonies.
We should be happy keeping things tight at home to bottom of the League.

Obviously we have to do more up the pitch , once we do maybe your thinking may become more progressive. Big ask I know but who knows

ClaretAL wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:06 pm

Why? Did you think we were worse than previously this season today? If so which bit? I presume the goals scored column, but outside of th we were massively improved.

Because if that is our best performance it says a lot about the rest.

Mattster wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:19 pm

Because if that is our best performance it says a lot about the rest.

If the “rest” improve or are equal to today’s defensive and midfield display I will be more than happy.

sjb wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:08 pm

I'd be interested to know your definition of crap.

While I know you aren't interested here is some food for thought although unlikely it will register.
QPR defended like their lives depended on it . I lost count of the number of last ditch blocks they put in that stopped us scoring or getting into scoring positions
Their composure was commendable for a team at the bottom.
You won't get any of that

You're right, it was a rhetorical statement (if you know what that means), and I'm not interested because your posts consistently show your abysmal level of football knowledge.

sjb wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:31 pm

You're right, it was a rhetorical statement (if you know what that means), and I'm not interested because your posts consistently show your abysmal level of football knowledge.

Get you, smarty pants

ClaretAL wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:23 pm

If the “rest” improve or are equal to today’s defensive and midfield display I will be more than happy.

So our "best performance of the season" is one where we only looked good in defence and midfield when the other team had no real intention of putting those two elements under pressure? Whilst we are the opposition's only clean sheet of the season and we created next to nothing.

Yeah, that's great.

Did anyone care to look at our bench today. What changes would you have made?

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:55 pm

Tbf, they probably just want to beat a crap QPR team at home when we're promotion hopefuls and they're struggling!

There is certainly an element of truth in this…

They are second bottom. We are second top. It’s almost November. Those positions are pretty much deserved at this point.

I think it’s fair to say after the first half we should feel aggrieved we go in at 0-0. That’s GOT to be the bad half tho…
One up top against a side that can’t help but concede?
Rodriguez in the squad let alone getting game time out wide?

Questions will rightly be asked, but we are second in the league. Those chuntering will rightly suggest we should be top, and with daylight.

We’ve players to come back, and we’ve a window in which to strengthen ,but the argument will be, bringing Kane in will still see us struggle to score when we insist on taking far too many touches, and rather than risking the “iffy” forward pass, give it to Esteve to recycle. For those of you frustrated, I understand. But let’s have perspective…give the manager a chance.

I think it’s time we got this right. QPR have played all 3 teams relegated from the PL this season. Further all three games were away from home just like today.
QPR have been unbeaten in those 3 games , winning 1 and drawing 2.

GetIntoEm wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:49 pm

Did anyone care to look at our bench today. What changes would you have made?

Management

burnley007 wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:40 pm

Management

What would you have done?

They went for it, couldn't do it

There’s criticism to be aimed at Parker, sure, but I still think we’re at the stage of season where any criticism has to be tempered.

We are clearly lacking up front, and to have spent circa £150-200M over the past few years, and yet be in a position where we’re still relying on Jay Rod (great servant nonetheless), is shocking mismanagement.

That’s on Pace and VK. There are likely issues still ongoing in the squad/behind the scenes, judging by the continued absence of Tresor.

We just need to hang on as best we can until the January transfer window, and then invest out wide and up front.

GetIntoEm wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:42 pm

What would you have done?

They went for it, couldn't do it

He signed these players.
What was he planning?

He is tedious

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:13 pm

And I agree Elizabeth (up to a point!) Even under Kompany as we steamrollered to the Championship, we didn't win absolutely every game. Ironically,QPR at home on the promotion run in was one. BUT, if those games are clearly "blips" when things weirdly conspire against us and the Gods frustrate us and we end up with a crap result, it's one thing. This atm is becoming a habit. Games where we are easily frustrated and blunted are becoming the norm and that's not a promotion team (imo).

Yes, agreed. The last three home games have been against the sides currently in 16th, 21st, and 23rd, and we have scored 1 goal - and that was a penalty given to us by a rash tackle on a player with his back to goal.

Having said that, today was better than either Preston or Plymouth. At least we looked to be trying to score, and in the first half we almost created some chances!

Yeah second in the table for a manager who had his entire squad decimated and had to build another in 2 weeks, terrible manager!!

Are we actually doing anything in training on dead balls? 16 corners and we didn't leave a mark on them.

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:48 pm

Yeah second in the table for a manager who had his entire squad decimated and had to build another in 2 weeks, terrible manager!!

The window shut 8 weeks ago. If this was ever an excuse (and IMO it's been blown out of all proportion) it's not anymore. Parker's had longer than a full preseason schedule, replete with matches against the weakest teams in the league and couple of international breaks in there too to get extra work in on the training ground. This is not a factor in why we look so clueless and disjointed once we cross the half away line.

Mattster wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:43 am

The window shut 8 weeks ago. If this was ever an excuse (and IMO it's been blown out of all proportion) it's not anymore. Parker's had longer than a full preseason schedule, replete with matches against the weakest teams in the league and couple of international breaks in there too to get extra work in on the training ground. This is not a factor in why we look so clueless and disjointed once we cross the half away line.

Perhaps some of players available simply aren’t good enough ? Who comes off the bench and makes an impact?

Seems to me that those who don’t like Parker or never wanted him have decided after 12 games they were right all along. Quite sad really but there you, that’s the mentality of quite a few on here.

NL Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:24 am

Perhaps some of players available simply aren’t good enough ? Who comes off the bench and makes an impact?

Seems to me that those who don’t like Parker or never wanted him have decided after 12 games they were right all along. Quite sad really but there you, that’s the mentality of quite a few on here.

Are the players we have at our disposal bottom 3 quality? Because that is how they are performing in terms of chance creation. If you don't think they are then it's not the players that are the problem.

Mattster wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:33 am

Are the players we have at our disposal bottom 3 quality? Because that is how they are performing in terms of chance creation. If you don't think they are then it's not the players that are the problem.

How are they performing in terms of league position and xG differential?

Cricket field stand be like…


https://www.instagram.com/reel/DA8Jx7GI ... F5cXB6d2lv

We don’t have a good enough team to get promoted it’s that simple. No attacking threat. No skill. As for Koleosho being valued at 40 million. I bet that price is dropping drastically week after week. Zaroury was and is a far better footballer.

Mattster wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:33 am

Are the players we have at our disposal bottom 3 quality? Because that is how they are performing in terms of chance creation. If you don't think they are then it's not the players that are the problem.

You do know that the chance creation table is different to the league table printed in today’s newspapers?

Attacking players at Parker’s disposal.

Flemming - played out of position and possibly not 100% fit, signed at last minute with an injury
Anthony - inexperienced
Koleosho - inexperienced
Jay Rod - why he was given a contract I will never know
Houdini - not seen anything to suggest he’s at championship level
Brownhill - usually gets loads of stick on here

One thing I will say is that our corners need to be better, we had loads yesterday and only looked like scoring from one.

I know some disliked Parker before he was appointed, he wasn’t their man and they will never move their limited thought process on from that.

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:35 am

How are they performing in terms of league position and xG differential?

11th for xG differential according to FBRef but that hasn't updated with yesterday's yet. Can't imagine that will change looking at the teams ranked above/below.

League position we know.

I've consistently been saying our goalscoring and results weren't sustainable based on our performances - got absolutely slated for saying it after the Leeds game (personal insults, the lot) because "Look at the league table!" and "11 goals in 5 games!".

Well here we are, the goals have proven to be unsustainable. The results are following.

NL Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:24 am

Seems to me that those who don’t like Parker or never wanted him have decided after 12 games they were right all along. Quite sad really but there you, that’s the mentality of quite a few on here.

What about those who were happy with Parker coming in but are not happy with the way we're playing?

dougcollins wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:49 am

What about those who were happy with Parker coming in but are not happy with the way we're playing?

Perhaps they have really high expectations or they are stuck in 22/23 ?

Does this squad (those that are not chronically injured) have the ability to play exciting football and win 5-0 every week to satisfy UTC posters?

You cannot have summers where there is a massive overhaul of players and end up scrambling around for players in the last few days of the transfer window.