• Eric ten Haag sacked

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:53 am**

I don’t think this can come as a shock

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:55 am**

Who knew eh?

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:00 pm**

New manager in place by 2pm?

They've already interviewed his replacement by all accounts.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:01 pm**

Please be Southgate.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:02 pm**

RVN interim manager - possibly what he wanted?

Who is available now that they might go for?

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:04 pm**

Who ever gets it has a tough job. They are a huge club with a team who are now miles behind the top teams in this league.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:04 pm**

Not much out there who you'd think can take the job on. Seen Xavi and Zidane linked. I imagine they're kicking themselves for missing the boat with Tuchel.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:14 pm**

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:04 pm
I imagine they're kicking themselves for missing the boat with Tuchel.

I doubt it

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:18 pm**

Whoever goes, its a long term job to clear the malaise that's hanging around the club now
They're not going to walk into the top 4 easily anymore, there's a fair amount of ground to make up and the playing squad needs looking at

Several overpaid and underperforming players there

Reminds me of Arsenal when Arteta took over, he cleared the decks and made it very clear who was the boss

Tuchel etc are all winners, they may not want the long term project

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:19 pm**

claret2018 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:14 pm
I doubt it

Ok.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:24 pm**

Inevitable

Put out of his misery at last. I hope he has a great success at his next club, if only to expose the problem lies within the club and dressing room.

I should think Van Nistelrooy will get the gig permanently, as you'd have to be mad to want it, and then be lucky to last a season.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:25 pm**

This wouldn’t please the fans but I’d go and get Mourinho and give him full control for a season or two.

He’d get them results out of a mediocre team, help them clear out the squad of the dead wood. I think he’d leave Turkey in a heartbeat to return to the premier league.

With the dross cleared and a steadier ship I’d then give it to a younger manager.

Have a feeling they might go for someone like Frank though.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:27 pm**

i wonder what RVN is thinking right now after is mate as been sacked as he won't be getting the job and he turned us down to go there if reports are true..

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:30 pm**

Clive 1960 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:27 pm
i wonder what RVN is thinking right now after is mate as been sacked as he won't be getting the job and he turned us down to go there if reports are true..

He probably looks at his payslip at the end of each month and gives a wry smile.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:31 pm**

Not many Manure players I’d even want in the Burnley team apart from Garnacho,Martinez ,Mainoo,and Hojlund.the rest are either shite or don’t give a shite.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:34 pm**

Clive 1960 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:27 pm
i wonder what RVN is thinking right now after is mate as been sacked as he won't be getting the job and he turned us down to go there if reports are true..

Think the opposite is true Clive!

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:35 pm**

They'll go for another name in Xavi or Zidane who'll think they can get a tune out of all the Ego's, like Fernandes, man U have in that squad. Rinse repeat in two years.

That Amorim fella at Sporting might be worth a shout, realistically but can't see him wanting to risk his reputation at this stage of his career.

Realistically until they can bin off some of the absolute guff that Ten Hag has bought (Casemiro, Antony, Mount), they'll be looking at a minimum of another 2 years rebuild time.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:47 pm**

How many managers are they going to change before they realise the problem is much deeper than that

for me that team is full of players that believe their own hype and have stopped trying to improve ...

Bruno Fernandez should be the type of player that creates and does what he does best .... not bear the weight of the captaincy which you can tell affects his game

The choice or lack of choice of a captain is exactly whats wrong with Man U at present

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:55 pm**

Darthlaw wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:35 pm
That Amorim fella at Sporting might be worth a shout, realistically but can't see him wanting to risk his reputation at this stage of his career.

He's being tipped for Citeh when Pep goes at the end of the season.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:57 pm**

They have fallen so far down the order of top European clubs they will only sign players that are coming for the salary and not to win things. It’s a vicious circle and at the moment they are out of the loop.
I’m not smiling. No, really, I’m not.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:58 pm**

I wonder if they have a plan for a replacement or if this yet another poorly thought out choice. Probably the latter.

Strange timing since they were really unlucky against west ham, should have scored 3 or 4 and got done over by a dodgy penalty.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:59 pm**

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Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:45 pm**

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:01 pm
Please be Southgate.

... Sir Gareth Southgate if reports are to be believed.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:59 pm**

I thought they'd lined up Xavi ?

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:04 pm**

Mourinho, Neville and Rangnick all called it.

It isn't just the playing standards that have plumbed new depths of mediocrity at United, it's the culture, particularly amongst the players. They've gone some way to addressing that with the appointment of Dan Ashworth but I cannot think of another side in the world that needs clearing out, root and branch.

Man Utd aspire to be champions, yet not a single player of theirs would start for City, Arsenal or Liverpool assuming everyone is fit.

You might argue Fernandes possibly would but I'd argue his sort of stroppy, childish mentality, as a captain no less is precisely why they are where they are.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:27 pm**

It’s astounding that he’s lasted as long as he has to be honest.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:53 pm**

His cup wins saved him, he was out of his depth in the league, such a shame they've sacked him. As mentioned earlier they are mid table at best.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:55 pm**

Clive 1960 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:27 pm
i wonder what RVN is thinking right now after is mate as been sacked as he won't be getting the job and he turned us down to go there if reports are true..

Did he really turn us down? From what I’ve been told that’s not the case.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:55 pm**

BigGaz wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:04 pm
Mourinho, Neville and Rangnick all called it.

It isn't just the playing standards that have plumbed new depths of mediocrity at United, it's the culture, particularly amongst the players. They've gone some way to addressing that with the appointment of Dan Ashworth but I cannot think of another side in the world that needs clearing out, root and branch.

Man Utd aspire to be champions, yet not a single player of theirs would start for City, Arsenal or Liverpool assuming everyone is fit.

You might argue Fernandes possibly would but I'd argue his sort of stroppy, childish mentality, as a captain no less is precisely why they are where they are.

This. All day long, this.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:16 pm**

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:01 pm
Please be Southgate.

Why would you want them to employ Englands second best ever manager and their far away most consistent over a reasonable length of time? Southgate, given the backing, would do an amazing job at United.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:56 pm**

BigGaz wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:04 pm

You might argue Fernandes possibly would but I'd argue his sort of stroppy, childish mentality, as a captain no less is precisely why they are where they are.

I've seen utd fans trying to suggest he's better than Kroos recently and that's been hilarious
Also highlights the mentality of a huge number of their fans, they just can't seem to grasp that they're nothing special anymore, including someone they view as a star player

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:57 pm**

houseboy wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:16 pm
Why would you want them to employ Englands second best ever manager and their far away most consistent over a reasonable length of time? Southgate, given the backing, would do an amazing job at United.

Discussing this at work today and he'd be a long term builder and would raise the clubs standards I suspect

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:06 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:55 pm
Did he really turn us down?

No.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:20 pm**

Parker to United?

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:42 pm**

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:24 pm
Inevitable

Put out of his misery at last. I hope he has a great success at his next club, if only to expose the problem lies within the club and dressing room.

I should think Van Nistelrooy will get the gig permanently, as you'd have to be mad to want it, and then be lucky to last a season.

Inteesting that about Van Nistelrooy. I wonder if he turned us down because he saw this coming and fancied the job himself on a permanant deal. Thats if he did turn us down of course.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:20 pm**

Stayingup wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:42 pm
Inteesting that about Van Nistelrooy. I wonder if he turned us down because he saw this coming and fancied the job himself on a permanant deal. Thats if he did turn us down of course.

Big risk if he did do that because there's every chance now he ends up without a job when the new man comes in

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:33 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:55 pm
Did he really turn us down? From what I’ve been told that’s not the case.

Maybe we got wind of his motivations and wanted someone that could turn into a longer term appointment.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:18 pm**

They've made an approach for Ruben Amorim

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:19 pm**

I can imagine us turning him down was because we didn’t want such a quick repeat of the Kompany situation. There could also have been an argument that someone with a proven track record of promotion out the championship would be a better bet.

RVN’s results as a manager haven’t been too bad, but I’d be surprised if United took a risk taking him on long term.

If I was a united fan I’d probably really want Emery. Although realistically that would be a crazy move for him. Maybe Frank from Brentford… but again I’d question if he’d actually want to make the move. As big as club as United are, the job to turn around that squad is pretty mammoth.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:27 pm**

Darthlaw wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:00 pm

They've already interviewed his replacement by all accounts.

That's Amorim then, because according to Sky Sports News, they've been in talks with the Sporting manager this afternoon.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:13 pm**

Ruud will probably sort it all out.

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:43 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:55 pm
Did he really turn us down? From what I’ve been told that’s not the case.

maybe that's true who knows, do you think Parker was first choice...

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:45 pm**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:34 pm
Think the opposite is true Clive!

Only Pace knows if that's true...

Posted: **Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:23 pm**

Ten Haag did not stand a chance with the squad he was dealt. This could run and run every couple of years. Why does Jim Ratcliffe think, and the Glazers think, he understands what is needed.

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:59 am**

COBBLE wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:23 pm
Ten Haag did not stand a chance with the squad he was dealt. This could run and run every couple of years. Why does Jim Ratcliffe think, and the Glazers think, he understands what is needed.

United have spent a fortune and it was clear Ten Hag was heavily involved with the bigger transfers. Antony, Onana, Martinez, De Ligt etc

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:49 am**

I’ve just seen the penalty decision that ultimately led to his dismissal.
No surprise to see Michael Oliver involved. The biggest myth football has ever seen.

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:52 am**

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:49 am
I’ve just seen the penalty decision that ultimately led to his dismissal.
No surprise to see Michael Oliver involved. The biggest myth football has ever seen.

I didn't see the penalty decision until the following morning and was very surprised it was even reviewed.

You know though when a ref like Oliver sends another ref to look at the replay then 100 times out of 100 he will side with Oliver. We have a real issue with officials not having a backbone and standing by their original decision which was perfectly fine.

If Oliver thinks that is a clear and obvious error he should ne longer be working on VAR duties

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:54 pm**

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Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:54 pm**

Clive 1960 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:45 pm
Only Pace knows if that's true...

I can only say what I was told Clive, but that was that he didn’t make the final five. I was told that before all the media coverage that he was a contender and I’d have liked him so was hoping it was incorrect but turned out to be so. Later heard a bit more about why - interviewed badly and wanted too much control.

They’ve subsequently released mission to Burnley and in episode 4, if memory serves correctly, you hear the panel discussing someone and coming to a unanimous no. I think that was RVN based off what I was told.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:01 pm**

Amorim just confirmed as new manager. 2 and a half year contract.
BBC

Let's hope he proves an expensive flop as well.

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