Need to get a better internet connection at home and this system has been mentioned.
Anybody out there have experience of getting and using Starlink??
Thanks in advance!

seems expensive, are you at a remote location where you have few other options? no fibre?

Remote yes.
We have a village scheme but the kids threatened to leave home years ago as they couldn't do their homework so I changed to 3 mobile which was ok for years but now is almost non existant. Perhaps the trees have all grown too much!
So I thought coming from above might be the answer.

GetIntoEm wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:00 pm

seems expensive, are you at a remote location where you have few other options? no fibre?

I don't think The Final Frontier could be any more remote, tbh.

I decided to google what the performance of Starlink is like off the back of this thread and I was surprised to see it was quite good apparently...

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/927 ... -in-the-uk

Also someone found a nugget in the ToS document https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comme ... e_parties/

9. Governing Law.
For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.

It's okay - better than nothing if you don't have alternatives.

Can you get 5G signal where you are? A 5G router and unlimited data SIM would probably be cheaper, more reliable and faster if so.

It certainly sorted out our bad reception, as we live rurally. A bit more expensive but the engineer sorted out ourselves and the neighbour using the same equipment. Hence it is well reasonable and good quality.

Whilst we're on the internet topic, does anybody have any suggestions as to what the best package is?

My wife's company used to provide our WIFI as she works from home but due to cost cutting they're not from January next year.

We literally just need high speed WIFI, and there's only two of us in the house now, so never going to be multiple device use at once etc..

Don't need the TV packages, phone lines, mobile packages blah blah.

Thanks in advance..

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:19 pm

I decided to google what the performance of Starlink is like off the back of this thread and I was surprised to see it was quite good apparently...

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/927 ... -in-the-uk

Also someone found a nugget in the ToS document https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comme ... e_parties/

I'm sure the OP, Captain Kirk, assuming he is the Captain Kirk I've heard of, would be very interested in those Terms of Service.

I watch this guy on YouTube quite a bit and he did a setup and test video. It's in France but I assume the technology is the same, it might give you an idea of whats involved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqPyVdh6RQA&t=302s

Starlink will improve over time as Elon launches more and more satellites.

CaptainKirk wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:57 pm

Need to get a better internet connection at home and this system has been mentioned.
Anybody out there have experience of getting and using Starlink??
Thanks in advance!

Surely Scotty has the answer

We have Starlink. Been using it for the past 2 years now. It’s no fibre optic, but reasonably fast, and usually quite reliable other than occasional times it drops out. For us, it’s been a god send given very limited alternatives.

Cheers for the replies.
Got a chap coming round on Saturday to advise.

I work in telecoms and another option as opposed to Starlink could be Pangea. Both 4/5G but if you wanted a wired connection you could look into a leased line if you want the reliability. If you have neighbours you could chip in together and then have separate connections into your homes.

Either way it’s a minefield out there so hope it all goes well!

CaptainKirk wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:57 pm

Need to get a better internet connection at home and this system has been mentioned.
Anybody out there have experience of getting and using Starlink??
Thanks in advance!

We use these in Whalley due to being remote/away from normal connectivity
It's superb

https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker

Have a look on here to see if FTTP is available in your area

I wouldn't bother with Starlink. It is owned by an epic cock with world destructions as one of his life ambitions.

I need to sort my tinterweb, I'm on BT full fibre which is wonderful to the hub, then falls away so dramatically it's like a premier league player diving in the box.

Speed guarantee with BT is 700mbs, oh yes I say, BUT, by the time it gets to most devices in the house (and it aint a mansion), you're lucky to get 150mbs.

Between internet, mobile signals and electric cars we are being told a lot of lies.

ClaretJimmy wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:34 pm

https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker

Have a look on here to see if FTTP is available in your area

As my other post, I got full fibre and it is nothing special, the speed to the hub is great, but even with the BT discs it falls away to devices, 700mbs guaranteed, but not to the device.

ALP wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:20 am

I need to sort my tinterweb, I'm on BT full fibre which is wonderful to the hub, then falls away so dramatically it's like a premier league player diving in the box.

Speed guarantee with BT is 700mbs, oh yes I say, BUT, by the time it gets to most devices in the house (and it aint a mansion), you're lucky to get 150mbs.

Between internet, mobile signals and electric cars we are being told a lot of lies.

May I suggest getting a decent Mesh Router setup ALP - I have a TP-Link Deco X55 AX3000 system and it is superb. We have one unit on each floor of the house and they're all connected via ethernet (though you can use purely WiFi). Massive improvement of home connectivity for the 50+ IOT devices I have in the house. It doesn't matter where I sit with my laptop I get the same speed performance everywhere (which is close to the actual fibre performance)

ALP wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:20 am

I need to sort my tinterweb, I'm on BT full fibre which is wonderful to the hub, then falls away so dramatically it's like a premier league player diving in the box.

Speed guarantee with BT is 700mbs, oh yes I say, BUT, by the time it gets to most devices in the house (and it aint a mansion), you're lucky to get 150mbs.

Between internet, mobile signals and electric cars we are being told a lot of lies.

Why on earth would you need more than 150Mbps to a single device lol? Unless you're regularly uploading/downloading huge files (and I mean terabytes of data) that is more than ample for 99.9% of home users.

I'm a network engineer and we run 50~ user offices perfectly fine on 200Mbps connections.

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:14 pm

Starlink will improve over time as Elon launches more and more satellites.

Starlink will get worse over time. The more people that sign up to it the slower it will become.

ALP wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:22 am

As my other post, I got full fibre and it is nothing special, the speed to the hub is great, but even with the BT discs it falls away to devices, 700mbs guaranteed, but not to the device.

As per other posts, 150mbps on a device is pretty good over wireless. If you want to improve it though I'd look into a dedicated mesh system rather than BT's offering. As you say, no issue with the connection if you're getting 700mbps at the router.

ALP wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:20 am

I need to sort my tinterweb, I'm on BT full fibre which is wonderful to the hub, then falls away so dramatically it's like a premier league player diving in the box.

Speed guarantee with BT is 700mbs, oh yes I say, BUT, by the time it gets to most devices in the house (and it aint a mansion), you're lucky to get 150mbs.

Between internet, mobile signals and electric cars we are being told a lot of lies.

Most of the routers and WiFi setups from ISPs are a bit rubbish.

If you really need more than 150Mbps everywhere (and there's a good chance you don't) then look into third party routers and wireless access points.

If it's just one machine you need it for then maybe just look at a wired connection for that.

ClaretOfMancunia wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:32 am

Why on earth would you need more than 150Mbps to a single device lol? Unless you're regularly uploading/downloading huge files (and I mean terabytes of data) that is more than ample for 99.9% of home users.

I'm a network engineer and we run 50~ user offices perfectly fine on 200Mbps connections.

Because you can.

My brother is currently in the process of getting a 2.5gbps connection - the lucky git!

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:54 am

Because you can.

My brother is currently in the process of getting a 2.5gbps connection - the lucky git!

Not sure I understand - 99% of users will notice no difference at all in regular internet usage between 200Mbps and 2Gbps. It's like having an oven that can go all the way up to 2000c. Total waste of money unless you're in the business of editing raw video or 3D rendering or something. Even most new devices only support up to 1Gbps anyway.

ClaretOfMancunia wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:59 am

Not sure I understand - 99% of users will notice no difference at all in regular internet usage between 200Mbps and 2Gbps. It's like having an oven that can go all the way up to 2000c.

I think its more a case of "well I've paid for 700Mbps so thats what I want to actually get" as opposed to what is practicable. I've "only" got 160Mpbs at home, but as I said above I can get that across all rooms from all devices (obviously not all at the same time of course) because I installed a good Mesh system. I dont even touch the sides most days and I work from home and have a teenager on his Xbox most of the time too.

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:28 am

May I suggest getting a decent Mesh Router setup ALP - I have a TP-Link Deco X55 AX3000 system and it is superb. We have one unit on each floor of the house and they're all connected via ethernet (though you can use purely WiFi). Massive improvement of home connectivity for the 50+ IOT devices I have in the house. It doesn't matter where I sit with my laptop I get the same speed performance everywhere (which is close to the actual fibre performance)

Rick, is that working with the BT router? I have FTP but use the BT disks too. So, whilst I'm getting 999 download speeds on ethernet the upstairs is only getting 90 through the disks.

CardyTheClaret wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:33 am

Rick, is that working with the BT router? I have FTP but use the BT disks too. So, whilst I'm getting 999 download speeds on ethernet the upstairs is only getting 90 through the disks.

I replaced my service provider router with the Deco Mesh, I’m not with BT though

CaptainKirk wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:03 pm

Remote yes.
We have a village scheme but the kids threatened to leave home years ago as they couldn't do their homework so I changed to 3 mobile which was ok for years but now is almost non existant. Perhaps the trees have all grown too much!
So I thought coming from above might be the answer.

I think that they should put a mast on top of Pendle Hill. That would sort out everyone's problems.

Steddyman wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:59 pm

I wouldn't bother with Starlink. It is owned by an epic cock with world destructions as one of his life ambitions.

All them people in North Carolina who starlink saved may disagree

CaptainKirk wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:03 pm

Remote yes.
We have a village scheme but the kids threatened to leave home years ago as they couldn't do their homework so I changed to 3 mobile which was ok for years but now is almost non existant. Perhaps the trees have all grown too much!
So I thought coming from above might be the answer.

Move your router!

Steddyman wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:59 pm

I wouldn't bother with Starlink. It is owned by an epic cock with world destructions as one of his life ambitions.

How to say you haven’t got a clue without saying you haven’t got a clue.

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:52 pm

How to say you haven’t got a clue without saying you haven’t got a clue.

Please enlighten us mere mortals

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:36 pm

Whilst we're on the internet topic, does anybody have any suggestions as to what the best package is?

My wife's company used to provide our WIFI as she works from home but due to cost cutting they're not from January next year.

We literally just need high speed WIFI, and there's only two of us in the house now, so never going to be multiple device use at once etc..

Don't need the TV packages, phone lines, mobile packages blah blah.

Thanks in advance..

Is your wife voluntarily working from home? If not then they are probably required to provide the internet if it is a requirement for fulfilling her role. If you pay for it then it should be tax deductible

SirBob wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:47 am

Starlink will get worse over time. The more people that sign up to it the slower it will become.

He will just launch more satellites making it faster.

We live in remote Tasmania and lucky to receive an excellent Fixed Wireless Signal . We also have an Orbi Mesh system which ensures a strong signal throughout the property. The majority of those that cannot received Fixed Wireless use STARLINK, the only complaint registered against it is the expense of it. Most residents have swallowed their pride and continue with the Musk service rather than no service.

We live in Waterside, used to have Three 4g home broadband for £20 month, was great for about 10months but then went crap. No fast broadband here, only crappy old style, couldn’t even stream a film without it buffering.
Bit the bullet and got Starlink, we bought reconditioned one through Starlink, £150, £75 monthly. Gotta say it’s been superb for the 11months we’ve had it, speeds have never really changed. Live in an old stone cottage, so set up a deco mesh and reaches everywhere, even set it up in the sheds in the field and works brilliantly.
Starlink router signal not great distance on them so recommend some type of mesh system if you get it.
Try it and if you ain’t happy send it back within 30days and get full refund. They do slap you with a £75 congestion charge at the start to now I’m led to believe, so keep that in mind.
Hope this helps

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:36 pm

Whilst we're on the internet topic, does anybody have any suggestions as to what the best package is?

My wife's company used to provide our WIFI as she works from home but due to cost cutting they're not from January next year.

We literally just need high speed WIFI, and there's only two of us in the house now, so never going to be multiple device use at once etc..

Don't need the TV packages, phone lines, mobile packages blah blah.

Thanks in advance..

I recently switched to Vodafone in similar circumstances and pay under £20 pm for their high speed service. It's been great this far. Just be mindful of how they install. I told them to put everything where the old equipment was and they stuck it next to it rather than removing the old gear. Apparently they can't touch old equipment but if they told me that if have removed it and they might not have had to drill.