Is there any update on Lyle-maybe a poster close to the club may have some news. According to Parker he was having a scan on Wednesday which would presumably provide a better estimate of when we would see him available again. The international break has come at a good time if he is out for at least a few more weeks

There's your answer - what Parker said

I'm getting more and more to the opinion that Lyle just doesn't want to be here and we won't see him play for us again.
Such a shame we didn't get him sold during the summer and use the money to buy a fit,motivated forward.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:12 pm

I'm getting more and more to the opinion that Lyle just doesn't want to be here and we won't see him play for us again.
Such a shame we didn't get him sold during the summer and use the money to buy a fit,motivated forward.

What about him getting injured on international duty, and having to go for a scan - gives you that opinion?

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:12 pm

I'm getting more and more to the opinion that Lyle just doesn't want to be here and we won't see him play for us again.
Such a shame we didn't get him sold during the summer and use the money to buy a fit,motivated forward.

Are they scanning him on Weds to see if he wants to be here or not ?

The lad is injured.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:12 pm

I'm getting more and more to the opinion that Lyle just doesn't want to be here and we won't see him play for us again.
Such a shame we didn't get him sold during the summer and use the money to buy a fit,motivated forward.

Tremendous stuff

International breaks are a real pain. If a player returns injured, the national team should pay his wages!

Let's wait and see, have you given some thought to the extremely slim chance that the club have insisted he has a scan to actually encourage him to get back into full training, let's face it he has hardly played well for us forvquite a while.

whiffa wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:14 pm

What about him getting injured on international duty, and having to go for a scan - gives you that opinion?

And the international duty was when????

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:02 pm

International breaks are a real pain. If a player returns injured, the national team should pay his wages!

I believe they do.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:04 pm

And the international duty was when????

He got absolutely clattered when it happened.

He’s got off lightly with whatever injury he currently has.

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:02 pm

International breaks are a real pain. If a player returns injured, the national team should pay his wages!

Don't we get compensation to cover his wages for that type of thing. Might be making that up but I'm sure I read/heard it somewhere

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:05 pm

I believe they do.

Can South Africa afford it? Do they pay in diamonds?

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:02 pm

International breaks are a real pain. If a player returns injured, the national team should pay his wages!

Agree! They might play less useless friendlies then!

FIFA Club Protection Programme (CPP) - Clubs get compensation for players injured in matches that both teams play their A team. This includes friendlies.

https://hns.family/files/documents/2960 ... 202026.pdf

National FA's only have to pay compensation if the player is injured in the final stages of a competition.

Couldn't care less. He doesn't offer anything for me.

Commy wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:01 pm

FIFA Club Protection Programme (CPP) - Clubs get compensation for players injured in matches that both teams play their A team. This includes friendlies.

https://hns.family/files/documents/2960 ... 202026.pdf

National FA's only have to pay compensation if the player is injured in the final stages of a competition.

That’s good, my reading is that it only kicks in after 28 days which is a bit annoying, but better than nothing.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:12 pm

I'm getting more and more to the opinion that Lyle just doesn't want to be here and we won't see him play for us again.
Such a shame we didn't get him sold during the summer and use the money to buy a fit,motivated forward.

Sorry, but that is utter shite

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:04 pm

And the international duty was when????

When he got his knee kicked in

Gazclaret83 wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:12 pm

Couldn't care less. He doesn't offer anything for me.

That's the spirit, get behind the team, bet you're really proud

Row x wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:28 pm

Sorry, but that is utter shite

Just so glad you got your degree in English Literature before universities stopped doing them.
Wordsmith extraordinaire.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:34 pm

Just so glad you got your degree in English Literature before universities stopped doing them.
Wordsmith extraordinaire.

Thanks

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:02 pm

International breaks are a real pain. If a player returns injured, the national team should pay his wages!

In my view a strange way of looking at it. It's optional from the start he could refuse to accept a call up. The whole idea is it's meant to be about patriotism a sense of a cause the word duty implies all of this. Why does anybody need paying if somebody's accepting a choice of their own free will! We are signing international players accepting the risk that goes with it.

Commy wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:01 pm

FIFA Club Protection Programme (CPP) - Clubs get compensation for players injured in matches that both teams play their A team. This includes friendlies.

https://hns.family/files/documents/2960 ... 202026.pdf

National FA's only have to pay compensation if the player is injured in the final stages of a competition.

I bet big clubs are secretly delighted when players they've frozen out get injured on international duty. They could save a fortune.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:34 pm

Just so glad you got your degree in English Literature before universities stopped doing them.
Wordsmith extraordinaire.

When did universities stop doing them?

Quicknick wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 09, 2024 2:40 am

When did universities stop doing them?

Canterbury has sadly started the rot.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:04 pm

And the international duty was when????

4 Weeks ago and?????
Is there a set time you're allowed off for injuries & does how bad it is not matter? We were told it'd be a while when it happened

clarets1978 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:29 am

4 Weeks ago and?????
Is there a set time you're allowed off for injuries & does how bad it is not matter? We were told it'd be a while when it happened

Sorry for the comment doctor.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:12 pm

I'm getting more and more to the opinion that Lyle just doesn't want to be here and we won't see him play for us again.
Such a shame we didn't get him sold during the summer and use the money to buy a fit,motivated forward.

I posted on my Q&A thread a few weeks ago that Mat Williams had said we were looking at 6-8 weeks with Foster.

I have also been informed personally by somebody in the camp, and please don't think this is me being I'm in the know blah blah, as I'm not, I just know a player that's all, and he's informed me as soon as Kompany had left LF wanted out and didn't want to be here.

I've no reason to doubt this lads comments, and to be fair his performances haven't been anywhere near as good as what we'd have all liked/expected.

To be fair to Foster though he just doesn't seem to be able to get an injury/ illness free run to find form so who knows?

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:45 am

I posted on my Q&A thread a few weeks ago that Mat Williams had said we were looking at 6-8 weeks with Foster.

I have also been informed personally by somebody in the camp, and please don't think this is me being I'm in the know blah blah, as I'm not, I just know a player that's all, and he's informed me as soon as Kompany had left LF wanted out and didn't want to be here.

I've no reason to doubt this lads comments, and to be fair his performances haven't been anywhere near as good as what we'd have all liked/expected.

To be fair to Foster though he just doesn't seem to be able to get an injury/ illness free run to find form so who knows?

Thanks for the feedback Andreshotboots. His continued absence gives us a major challenge as we are expecting Flemming to do his role and we have also witnessed that Jay and Hountondji are struggling to make an impact. We really are found wanting in the striker department for a side aspiring to challenge in this Division. It would not surprise me if we dont see much of him this side of Christmas and then of course we might see him fully fit in prep for the Africa Cup

I imagine if he's having a scan Wednesday then he will be quite a way off

GetIntoEm wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:42 am

I imagine if he's having a scan Wednesday then he will be quite a way off

Sadly you have thought, going for a scan now means its not recovered as they thought it would and there is still an issue with it.

Frustrating thing is we get Sarmiento back fit following the last international break and then after this weekend off he will go with Ecuador again

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:29 am

It would not surprise me if we dont see much of him this side of Christmas and then of course we might see him fully fit in prep for the Africa Cup

What African cup?

AFCON is not every year, the last final was in February 2024.

Foster isn’t good enough anyway, we need to cut our losses in the January window and find a proper striker for this level. He’s had more than enough time and opportunity and shown he isn’t up to the standard, out of his depth.

Cannon on loan at Stoke looks a handful, Lankshear from Spurs, Morris from Luton.

Sooner he realises he’s nowhere near the level required the better it is for everyone really.

From Wikipedia: Foster has a career total of 24 goals from 148 appearances ie an average of 1 every 6 games.
He has only ever scored more than 5 in any one season and that was 8 with Westerlo in Belgium, 2 yrs ago.
The stats would suggest that even if he were to play in all our remaining 32 games this season, he would bag 5 or 6.
Some folk on here seem to think when (if ?) he plays again, he's going to play every game and suddenly morph into a modern- day Jimmy Greaves.
Personally, I can't see it happening..........

People have really turned against this guy, haven't they? Horrible and not nice.

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:30 am

People have really turned against this guy, haven't they? Horrible and not nice.

I think people are putting two and two together and turning against his perceived attitude, I know I am.
I'm not happy with the Lyle love in brigades attitude that anyone who dare criticise highly paid footballer is horrible nasty,disloyal etc etc.

Looking at this from purely a football perspective my view is that whilst he’s been with us I’ve not seen anything from him that stands out, he’s just an average forward, he’s looked lazy at times. Perhaps he’s not been played in his best position, injuries won’t have helped. Hopefully there’s more to come from him, I hope so.

Goliath wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:34 pm

I bet big clubs are secretly delighted when players they've frozen out get injured on international duty. They could save a fortune.

Going in the opposite direction, I'm sure I recall a situation some years ago when it turned out that the English FA only compensated/insured to cover the average wage for the players in their squad; so when Michael Owen picked up a bad/long term injury on International duty, soon after he'd joined Newcastle on a mega-bucks deal, they were only being compensated for about 1/4 of his wages.

He has about one good game in 10 and is otherwise not fit or available to play. Not a great return and fans will rightly ask questions.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:12 am

What African cup?

AFCON is not every year, the last final was in February 2024.

Oh OK, thought it was annual, but there are still qualifying rounds to be played from mid Feb for a 3-4 week period

Foster has not done everything to get the crowd on his side. He has has significant time off through illness, injury and being involved in the Africa Cup. When he has played he has not always shown any passion for the shirt, or application and drifted out of games, at the same time getting into arguments with the referee. We have also learned from several sources that he wanted away when VK left. Sadly he cannot be relied on to play as our main striker, and that should really focus the recruitment team to start the search now for two strikers

There is some really pernicious rubbish here.

Foster has missed games owing to injuries and mental health issues, all of which is unavoidable and most definitely not his fault. The idea that the fact he's been the victim of that misfortune somehow suggests he's not committed is an utterly absurd conspiracy theory.

If people want to opine on his performances, OK - that's fair enough. I think everyone accepts he had some poor games immediately before getting injured on international duty, although confidence seemed to me to be a factor. But to add the fact he had some poor games with the fact he's been unavailable and using the combination to reach a negative conclusion is completely wrong in my mind. Its a classic case of taking two and two and making five.

I don't think Foster has lbeen lazy or uncommitted when he's played for us and I see absolutely no evidence he wants away (and I don't think any reputable source claimed he was agitating for a move in the summer). He's a player who plays for us and has had a stop start career with us and that should be reason enough for fans to get behind him. Turning against him because he's had the temerity to get injured is wild. Particularly when he's someone we know has struggled with his mental health.

I don't see any real evidence of laziness or wanting away - he seems to be a quite surly character but he's definitely a good footballer.

I think his issue is that he doesn't fit into SPs way of playing or VKs for that matter. I think he'd be good in a 4-4-2 playing off a big striker. He's quick and has an eye for goal but he's not a header of the ball or someone who seems to like leading the line or playing with his back to goal.

I tend to think he was another bought for youth and talent and not necessarily to much of a plan but he's a good player.

ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:40 pm

I don't see any real evidence of laziness or wanting away - he seems to be a quite surly character but he's definitely a good footballer.

I think his issue is that he doesn't fit into SPs way of playing or VKs for that matter. I think he'd be good in a 4-4-2 playing off a big striker. He's quick and has an eye for goal but he's not a header of the ball or someone who seems to like leading the line or playing with his back to goal.

I tend to think he was another bought for youth and talent and not necessarily to much of a plan but he's a good player.

He's not a striker who wants to lead the line. He wants to face the goal and either drive in possession or run towards goal. My own view is that when he's played for us, he's invariably been asked to be the focal point of our attack, hold the ball up and create space for others. That seems to me to be a sub-optimal role for him and it's not a surprise he's struggled in it at times. I think most people assume that's why we signed Flemming- to provide a deep lying foil for him and free Foster up to play to his strengths. We've never seen him paired with that sort of 10 yet.

The wanting away thing is crazy talk. If you think there's a single player who would be here if they'd had a better offer in summer you're delusional.

ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:40 pm

I don't see any real evidence of laziness or wanting away - he seems to be a quite surly character but he's definitely a good footballer.

I think his issue is that he doesn't fit into SPs way of playing or VKs for that matter. I think he'd be good in a 4-4-2 playing off a big striker. He's quick and has an eye for goal but he's not a header of the ball or someone who seems to like leading the line or playing with his back to goal.

I tend to think he was another bought for youth and talent and not necessarily to much of a plan but he's a good player.

How did you know he doesn't fit in with Parker' style of play ? The bugger is always injured.

The delusion with Foster on here is crazy, the man who can do no wrong in the eyes of some. We forked out £9m on this fella 2 years ago and we’ve had about 5 good performances yet some will still continue making excuse after excuse for him.

Like how many more poor performances do you want to see from him before you stop with the excuses? He was atrocious in his first 6 months whilst playing for the runaway league leaders.