Our new Sh!thouse ... the new Bashley... I give you Hannibal Mjebri

Sadly, he's not quite as clever, always a red card waiting to happen. Barnes knew how to avoid that trap,mostly.

AmbleClaret wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:02 pm

Sadly, he's not quite as clever, always a red card waiting to happen. Barnes knew how to avoid that trap,mostly.

But hasn't had a red card in 49 Championship appearances. In any case he's only 21 and still learning.

He needs to learn how to wind up the opposition, but not be wound up himself.

Walking a bit of a knife edge today.

Absolutely magnificent today until he was booked.

Twinkle Toes!

He'll learn.
Hope it's not through red cards though!

jdrobbo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:13 pm

Absolutely magnificent today until he was booked.

Twinkle Toes!

Absolutely magnificent?! Based on what exactly?

Constantly breaking up play with tackles

Intercepting Bristol City passes and turning us from defence to attack very quickly.

Taking the ball off the defenders

Instigating triangles

Drawing fouls

Carrying the ball good yards


Hope that’s enough for now

We’d have won easily if the ref hadn’t let Bristol punch him up in the air for 10 mins and eventually lost his cool a bit.

Aside from shithousery, what he needs to learn, as do one or two others, is when to take a man on and when to play it safe.

There’s a proper player there though, once he matures a little and understands his strengths and weaknesses.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:49 pm

Aside from shithousery, what he needs to learn, as do one or two others, is when to take a man on and when to play it safe.

There’s a proper player there though, once he matures a little and understands his strengths and weaknesses.

When Scott took him to one side it looked like that was what Scott P was telling him

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:51 pm

When Scott took him to one side it looked like that was what Scott P was telling him

Hopefully - Parker was a top quality player - a great one for Hannibal to learn from and listen to.

jdrobbo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:36 pm

Constantly breaking up play with tackles

Intercepting Bristol City passes and turning us from defence to attack very quickly.

Taking the ball off the defenders

Instigating triangles

Drawing fouls

Carrying the ball good yards


Hope that’s enough for now

I thought he had a very decent game for 60 minutes. Our pressing was much more dynamic today and we moved the ball with more purpose and Hannibal was integral to that.

However, he did lose the ball several times from trying to do too much, and he unravelled a bit in the 10 minutes before he came off.

He has all the tools to be a good player, his passing was dreadful today but he wasn't the only know (both sides but them in particular) so I'll put that down to conditions. Paying against him and Roberts can't be fun.

Something I noticed today that I can't say I've noticed before is that he's absolutely feckin rapid. Maybe not quite as quick as Luca but he can't half shift once he gets his head down.

He played well today but I do wonder how he might fare carrying the ball from deep given our problems in transtion, probably the best suited to doing that along with Laurent.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:55 pm

Hopefully - Parker was a top quality player - a great one for Hannibal to learn from and listen to.

Yes, its easy to forget that sometimes.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:02 pm

He has all the tools to be a good player, his passing was dreadful today but he wasn't the only know (both sides but them in particular) so I'll put that down to conditions. Paying against him and Roberts can't be fun.

I thought his passing was very good today. Plenty of sharp first time passing and as Gaz says, he showed that he's quick. His issue today was that occasionally he tries to do a bit too much himself.

jdrobbo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:36 pm

Constantly breaking up play with tackles

Intercepting Bristol City passes and turning us from defence to attack very quickly.

Taking the ball off the defenders

Instigating triangles

Drawing fouls

Carrying the ball good yards


Hope that’s enough for now

Let’s see how the stats back that up.

Mejbri made zero interceptions today.
He completed 1 successful tackle.
He had 1 successful dribbles. (4 failed dribbles).


On the flip side he was disposed the most of any Burnley midfielder. Dispossessed 3 times.

The stats back your statement that he was fouled a lot, but on the flip side he also fouled the most opposition players.

I thought Mejbri had a steady game and until the yellow card was quite decent.

But I’m not sure under any metric he was majestic

Spice,

This is where our slightly different takes perhaps meet: yes, he did occasionally give up the ball but his carrying helped us to stretch Bristol and it appeared to free us up a lot more than usual - were usually trying to thread needles in midfield.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:31 pm

Let’s see how the stats back that up.

Mejbri made zero interceptions today.
He completed 1 successful tackle.
He had 1 successful dribbles. (4 failed dribbles).


On the flip side he was disposed the most of any Burnley midfielder. Dispossessed 3 times.

The stats back your statement that he was fouled a lot, but on the flip side he also fouled the most opposition players.

I thought Mejbri had a steady game and until the yellow card was quite decent.

But I’m not sure under any metric he was majestic

Appreciate this, cheers.

Genuine question, how is a successful dribble defined in your source? Likewise, a successful tackle?

I was very surprised so many of his passes were in the Anthony position around the half way right touchline.

What that did do was give us an extra man in that area and it caused them some problems. I am hoping that is a regular thing, moving some resources wider to give us more oomph in that area.

Agree with posters that his quick feet do help us at times.

Newcastle quotes stats and after watching that game then stats are ******** .Do the stats show how many times he was kicked in the area and how much Ed he energised the side ,and those 3 times he was dispossessed he was actually fouled .Hes been around a long time but he’s a character and could be a real star for us and he’s still only a kid.Get behind the lad.

He was magnificent
I was the one who posted about frank the other day
I take it all back
That was almost a perfect away performance reminiscent of Liverpool in Europe in the 80 s
Another few of these and Scott grows his hair long again and the chrissy eagles song will be reverberating around turf moor again

Good player this lad, you will NOT find a better prospect in this league than him.

The stats backed up the game I saw him play.

I’d rather have a good footballer who uses the ball well than a shithouse.

agreenwood wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:29 pm

The stats backed up the game I saw him play.

I’d rather have a good footballer who uses the ball well than a shithouse.

In a team it's about the blend. You need rough you need smooth.

General question. How many red cards did Barnes get playing for us?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:31 pm

Let’s see how the stats back that up.

Mejbri made zero interceptions today.
He completed 1 successful tackle.
He had 1 successful dribbles. (4 failed dribbles).


On the flip side he was disposed the most of any Burnley midfielder. Dispossessed 3 times.

The stats back your statement that he was fouled a lot, but on the flip side he also fouled the most opposition players.

I thought Mejbri had a steady game and until the yellow card was quite decent.

But I’m not sure under any metric he was majestic

where do you get your stats from ? I wouldn't mind having a look.

He was brilliant at Birmingham on loan played in the right position
And he ll win free kicks better than grealish with a bit more experience

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:51 pm

where do you get your stats from ? I wouldn't mind having a look.

There’s a few different sites but I like using Whoscored match centre as you can directly compare players.

claretspice wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:56 pm

I thought he had a very decent game for 60 minutes. Our pressing was much more dynamic today and we moved the ball with more purpose and Hannibal was integral to that.

However, he did lose the ball several times from trying to do too much, and he unravelled a bit in the 10 minutes before he came off.

This

agreenwood wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:29 pm

The stats backed up the game I saw him play.

I’d rather have a good footballer who uses the ball well than a shithouse.

Exactly this. A good wind up merchant doesn’t get themselves more wound up than the opponent they’re winding up.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:59 pm

There’s a few different sites but I like using Whoscored match centre as you can directly compare players.

I'll check it out, cheers mate

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:59 pm

There’s a few different sites but I like using Whoscored match centre as you can directly compare players.

wow, it's excellent Nice one

I find him so frustrating and don’t have time for all the histrionics to be honest. Winding up opposition fans and players doesn’t help us win games.

Clearly talented but he gives up possession far too cheaply.

I thought Cullen was superb yesterday but it goes unnoticed with some people because he doesn’t have big hair and spend all the game goading the opposition.

We look a better team when Hannibal plays, yesterday being a good example

The tempo was much improved over recent games, he was a big part of that. The midfield trio worked for the first 65 minutes. They've been tried before and not clicked so some tweaks have been made to get it functioning so well. Hannibal has huge potential. Yes, he overruns it at times currently but he is properly committed and skillful. His passing can be sloppy but he corrects his errors generally. Some of the dispossession stats come from fouls not called. There was an obvious one prior to his booking. Opinions are mixed where I sit but I'd take a player with his mindset over some of Vinny's signings.

jdrobbo wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:36 pm

Constantly breaking up play with tackles

Intercepting Bristol City passes and turning us from defence to attack very quickly.

Taking the ball off the defenders

Instigating triangles

Drawing fouls

Carrying the ball good yards


Hope that’s enough for now

Well said John. I often wonder what match some of our supporters are watching. It wasn't the prettiest of games, the conditions were atrocious but the application and effort put in by the whole group was first class.
It's performances like that which eventually secures promotion. City will take a fair few points from many of our promotion rivals so that was an excellent victory yesterday

Did anyone see him giving his shirt to someone in the main stand? I saw it but didn’t see whether it was a wind up or not as that was not where the away fans were

Did anyone see him giving his shirt to someone in the main stand? I saw it but didn’t see whether it was a wind up or not as that was not where the away fans were

Stayingup wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:43 pm

In a team it's about the blend. You need rough you need smooth.

General question. How many red cards did Barnes get playing for us?

I agree and I think there’s room for a wind-up merchant in a successful side, but it has to be mixed in with a football contribution. I just think the shithousery becomes all he’s about for spells of too many games and he’s often let down by his decision making on the ball. He’s young and has time to learn, but he’s got to make more of a contribution if he ever wants to fulfil the potential that had him so highly rated at United earlier in his career.

It was the same with Ashley Barnes. Those final six months redeemed his reputation at Burnley and he left to universal gratitude, but it’s easy to forget that prior to that season and the few seasons that preceded it, he’d become a bit of a parody of himself. It was hugely frustrating for to watch him throw himself on the floor every time he felt a defender at his back and offer very little in the way of actual football. Thankfully he let his football do the talking more, whilst managing to maintain his loveable rogue approach, from November onwards and we all remembered he did actually have some ability.

Personally from what I can see of Hannibal so far his main positive is that he seems to be very good when recieving the ball in a tight space or when a player is close. He has the ability to move his body one way and prod the ball the other. Lovely little nut meg last night from it.

His passing and end product have been hit and miss at times though. He almost looks a little nonchalant when playing forwards.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:31 pm

Let’s see how the stats back that up.

Mejbri made zero interceptions today.
He completed 1 successful tackle.
He had 1 successful dribbles. (4 failed dribbles).


On the flip side he was disposed the most of any Burnley midfielder. Dispossessed 3 times.

The stats back your statement that he was fouled a lot, but on the flip side he also fouled the most opposition players.

I thought Mejbri had a steady game and until the yellow card was quite decent.

But I’m not sure under any metric he was majestic

Stats certainly back up what I saw yesterday. His pressing was good but the rest let him down. As did his dying swan routine.

We don't need a new one - we've already got Roberts.

Yesterday overall he did OK. In the first half he struggled to make some good passes in key positions, either over weighted or misplaced. In the second half he was much better and did quite a few good things including helping set up chances. One time he tried to pass it to someone for a shot whereas he might have been better shooting himself.

On his 'shithousery' he was doing OK until clattered by McNally. After that there was an occasional attempt to get McNally sent off. Other then that I don't recall much. It's clearly a known issue that is being worked on based on Parker's touchline chat and perhaps his coming out late at the start of the second half. The yellow card was being a bit over zealous and probably also an accumulation of things.

I see progress in his game and yesterday he played a good part in our performance.

Stats are interesting. Skybet only had Hannibal making 1 foul yesterday. I had him in my buildabet to commit 2.

TheOriginalLongsider wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2024 8:28 am

Did anyone see him giving his shirt to someone in the main stand? I saw it but didn’t see whether it was a wind up or not as that was not where the away fans were

He borrowed a hair band off a girl and after the match he returned it and gave her his shirt. This is a genuine answer as I was in the comfy seats behind her.

I’m absolutely convinced we will see the best of him when he drops deeper.

I think the injury to Brownhill might be his opportunity

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:01 pm

I’m absolutely convinced we will see the best of him when he drops deeper.

I think the injury to Brownhill might be his opportunity

I’d agree with that although have some doubts whether he’s got the defensive discipline to play deeper and suspect Laurent is more likely to take that spot.

Saw on Twitter somebody suggest he’s way better than Brownhill which I can’t fathom from what I’ve seen this season. The lack of respect Brownhill and Cullen get from some fans is mind boggling.

Play like VK played Cork in the Championship he may get a few suspensions but can be a nightmare to play against.He could be the new Joey Barton.

Incredible work rate

He’ll do for me Tommy