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Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:11 am
by blatherwickstattoos
Sorry if already another thread about this. Doing the rounds this morning that he’s on our radar when the window opens. He’d be absolutely ideal for us in my opinion. Highly rated last 2 seasons and has a huge price tag. Can we see this one happening ?
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:17 am
by Hedontplayforyou
Can’t see this personally but he’s got huge potential and can finish for sure.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:18 am
by daveisaclaret
Would probably be the best loan signing a Championship team had ever made. Can't really see it when Brighton in top form are using him from the bench.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:18 am
by jdrobbo
Massive talent. Would be a great fit, I think.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:19 am
by taio
Can't seem him temporarily dropping to the Championship
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:24 am
by Woodleyclaret
Surely Nathan Tella has the accolade of best Championship loan signing?
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:25 am
by Blyclaret
Big talent and recently scored for Rep of Ireland
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:26 am
by Bordeauxclaret
taio wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:19 am
Can't seem him temporarily dropping to the Championship
Only scored one for Brighton in the last 12 months.
A drop down and regular football might be very beneficial.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:27 am
by NewClaret
taio wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:19 am
Can't seem him temporarily dropping to the Championship
Me either, but if it’s confidence and form he’s looking for he’d more likely find it at a top end championship club than struggling premier league club.
Not sure if he’s mates with Sarmiento too?
It would be a smarter if less probable move, I think.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:29 am
by hoosier-daddy
I read earlier that Leicester are also interested. I'd say this one is very unlikely, but it's good that we seem to be wanting a striker.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:30 am
by Anonymous Claret
Mentioned it on another thread a couple of weeks ago that I would be delighted with Ferguson on loan.
Just can't see him willing to drop down to The Championship or Brighton willing to let him go. Maybe Cullen and Sarmiento can persuade him?
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:30 am
by TsarBomba
Leicester linked with Ferguson- Nixon.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:38 am
by RVclaret
TsarBomba wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:30 am
Leicester linked with Ferguson- Nixon.
Same article that he briefly mentions we are interested if the player would drop to the Champ. Leicester would like to buy him but Brighton not keen to sell, and they can’t loan him due to already having Buonanotte.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:45 am
by warksclaret
He would get a regular game for us-unlike other PL sides. Would be a sensational loan
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:51 am
by hoosier-daddy
Let's see how long it takes now before Leeds are rumoured to be interested. Every window they seem to be after the same players a few days later.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:10 am
by summitclaret
Would be a good move if it's doable. Whoever we get it needs to be on 1st Jan. SU and DL will not be ******* about.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:29 am
by Steve1956
It would be nice...but absolutely no chance
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:33 am
by claretfern
BBC website reporting Chelsea admiring him. . Says Brighton will want 100mil.......
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:35 am
by wilks_bfc
daveisaclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:18 am
Would probably be the best loan signing a Championship team had ever made. Can't really see it when Brighton in top form are using him from the bench.
“using him from the bench” is a bit of a stretch
He’s played 105 mins in 7 appearances and only one of those was a start and he played 60 min in that
Take that game out and he’s played 7 mins a game
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:35 am
by NewClaret
summitclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:10 am
Would be a good move if it's doable. Whoever we get it needs to be on 1st Jan. SU and DL will not be ******* about.
Completely agree with this. One whole month is like 12% of the season or something and we have to play the other top sides that month which could be six pointers in the context of the season.
I’m hoping we’re alive to this and working on deals now to start 1st Jan (and train earlier if at all possible). Presumably we’ll be going for players surplus to requirements elsewhere who want games, so it makes no sense for either party to delay.
If we’re after two players and one will sign on Jan 1st and the other wants to mess around considering options I’d just go for the player committed to the move.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:49 am
by BigGaz
Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:26 am
Only scored one for Brighton in the last 12 months.
A drop down and regular football might be very beneficial.
He's leaving in January on loan 100%. This i know for certain, his agent has been instructed to find a club.
I am not certain he will find a top level club, unless it's a club abroad. He is considered to have regressed massively. If we can get a version of the boy firing as he looked 18 months ago then you're looking at a real prospect but otherwise I think people might be getting carried away a bit.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:53 am
by claretspice
Be very surprised if this is doable. Given he has a past track record in the Premier League you'd expect goal shy Premier League teams to be interested first.
More plausible might be someone like Divin Mubama, who moved from West Ham to City last summer and hasn't had much first team football. But everyone will be chasing a striker in January so bringing anyone else will be easier said than done. With hindsight, Tommy Conway would have been a smart signing in the summer.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:11 pm
by Spike
Can’t see the guy who recommended signing loads of players in the same position having adjusted his data base to let us have a balanced squad
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:13 pm
by claretburns
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:38 am
Same article that he briefly mentions we are interested if the player would drop to the Champ. Leicester would like to buy him but Brighton not keen to sell, and they can’t loan him due to already having Buonanotte.
Unlucky to buy him, also linked with Chelsea today with a rumoured £100 million price tag placed on him by Brighton. (Can't blame them as they know Chelsea would be stupid enough to pay it).
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:20 pm
by Vino blanco
Bring him and Tella in on loan in January and we get promoted. The stuff that dreams are made of.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:29 pm
by Spijed
summitclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:10 am
Would be a good move if it's doable. Whoever we get it needs to be on 1st Jan. SU and DL will not be ******* about.
Don't most players and their agents just wait to see what's on offer before making their minds up?
Thus, it'll be nearer the end of the window than the start when good players on loan get snapped up.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:20 pm
by summitclaret
We'd surely be a top loan option. Guaranteed starter and in a promotion fight.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:08 pm
by Middle-agedClaret
All the potential to be the next Aaron Connolly…
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:17 pm
by BurnleyFC
I can’t see it happening - I think he’ll stay where he is - but he’d be a real powerhouse in the Championship.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:23 pm
by Blyclaret
Cooper now potted by Leicester who i believe were linked with Ferguson.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:57 pm
by Goody1975
Jay/Barnes worked in the last Championship season as we had a player who ran beyond and stretched teams, obviously that was Tella. We just don't have a player at the minute with that mindset.
Flemming isn't a number nine. Foster likes to run onto the ball, he really struggles with his back to goal, he just isn't a focal point.
I would however like to see Foster and Flemming together to see if they can dovetail each other.
It really is the conundrum for the rest of the season and one that needs solving if we want to finish in the top two.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 6:10 pm
by Blyclaret
Foster is not reliable enough … between not good enough …. Mental health issues and prone to injury … he needs to go and be replaced with a striker who canscore goals at this level
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 6:38 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
Definitely go for him but as an idealist I wish in a parallel universe we had signed Delap in the summer. Physicality, power, able to hold up, finish, and bring others in. Never rated him for other clubs but he was well thought of at City and in hindsight may have been destined for the top all along. A bit like Egan-Riley in that sense who is now suddenly blossoming, touch wood.
But that ship sailed. Ferguson on loan I would be happy with, 6 ft, some physicality (not as much), good finisher, lively. Also just what we need. We may be what he needs too (if BHA could be persuaded).
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:00 pm
by Row x
Vino blanco wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:20 pm
Bring him and Tella in on loan in January and we get promoted. The stuff that dreams are made of.
How many loan spots have we left?
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:28 pm
by colne-claret
Row x wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:00 pm
How many loan spots have we left?
Can have as many loans as you want but only 5 in a match day squad at the same time. Unless we turn one permanent in theory we have one left.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:30 pm
by mdd2
Do we have space for another loan player. How many allowed in this league?
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:34 pm
by morninbob
mdd2 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:30 pm
Do we have space for another loan player. How many allowed in this league?
Only 5 in the match day squad.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:36 pm
by Row x
colne-claret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:28 pm
Can have as many loans as you want but only 5 in a match day squad at the same time. Unless we turn one permanent in theory we have one left.
All but one of our loans are to be made permanent, I cannot see those players being left out for someone only here for a few months
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:37 pm
by colne-claret
Row x wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:36 pm
All but one of our loans are to be made permanent, I cannot see those players being left out for someone only here for a few months
Sorry I meant permanent in January. I agree. They’ve all played a big part. Unlikely to see any of them go back in Jan. Imagine we use one more loan in Jan though.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:58 pm
by Row x
colne-claret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:37 pm
Sorry I meant permanent in January. I agree. They’ve all played a big part. Unlikely to see any of them go back in Jan. Imagine we use one more loan in Jan though.
Yes I know what you meant. Only sarmiento is on a "normal" loan, and could in theory be recalled.
I could see one more loan coming in.
Brighton value Ferguson at 100m ( not sure how), don't think players valued by their clubs that high, go on loan to the championship
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 8:30 pm
by NewClaret
Row x wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:58 pm
Brighton value Ferguson at 100m ( not sure how), don't think players valued by their clubs that high, go on loan to the championship
I don’t think players they value at 100m sit on a teams bench. If he were valued so highly he’d be starting and nowhere near being considered for a loan move.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 8:35 pm
by Robbie_painter
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 8:30 pm
I don’t think players they value at 100m sit on a teams bench. If he were valued so highly he’d be starting and nowhere near being considered for a loan move.
It’s designed to put people off,all we would be doing is loaning him for six month which in my opinion would catapult us into clear favourites for the title.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:35 pm
by NewClaret
Robbie_painter wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 8:35 pm
It’s designed to put people off,all we would be doing is loaning him for six month which in my opinion would catapult us into clear favourites for the title.
More likely complete twaddle and paper talk (the £100m valuation).
Of course the story of our interest could be too, but I think it’s more likely to be true than the £100m valuation story.
I agree that it would catapult us to clear favourites and frankly this is the type of January we need the Board to deliver after an awful summer - not in terms of who we lost, that was fairly inevitable and we did some decent business, but the upheaval and timing.
Although I think Tella or Bruun Larsen could have a similarly positive impact.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:07 pm
by randomclaret2
The Brighton manager has now said Ferguson won't be going out on loan
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:09 pm
by Commy
hoosier-daddy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:51 am
Let's see how long it takes now before Leeds are rumoured to be interested. Every window they seem to be after the same players a few days later.
funny you should say that. Not exactly they are interested but that they shouldn't let us sign him.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/leeds ... on-player/
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:10 pm
by boatshed bill
randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:07 pm
The Brighton manager has now said Ferguson won't be going out on loan
Scott Parker has said there is nothing in this.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:28 pm
by hoosier-daddy
Yep, the same thing happens every time with them. They are either interested a few days after we are linked/mentioned, or a random article appears saying they should sign him.
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:38 pm
by jojomk1
Brighton currently have seven players listed as "strikers" so it would make some sense to at least let one go out
Fulham have also been linked as well as Leicester so really can't see him coming to us
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:39 pm
by Stonehouse
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:10 pm
Scott Parker has said there is nothing in this.
Imagine a reporter asking Parker if there’s any truth in the rumour about a player they maybe interested in January ,No wonder managers get a bit ****** off by some of them ,as though he’s going to say “ Oh yes we’ve been tapping his agent up for weeks and as soon as the transfer window opens he’s ours”
Re: Ferguson - loan from Brighton
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:45 pm
by boatshed bill
Stonehouse wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:39 pm
Imagine a reporter asking Parker if there’s any truth in the rumour about a player they maybe interested in January ,No wonder managers get a bit ****** off by some of them ,as though he’s going to say “ Oh yes we’ve been tapping his agent up for weeks and as soon as the transfer window opens he’s ours”
Or he could just be telling the truth.