In the hypothetical situation that we get promoted at the end of the season, we would probably have a lot of much better options than last summer as a potential manager.

In that scenario could we be one of the first to sack a manager straight after promotion?
Unlikely but would be an interesting scenario, not sure if it's ever happened before.

Perhaps we should get there 1st after last night not sure we will be there or thereabouts

I'd have a bet with anybody now, that the 3 promoted teams this season, all come straight back down..

In a sadistic way, that's why I'dije to see Blackburn go up..They've no idea how much better the Premier League is since they were last in it, and they'd have to spend massively, getting into even more debt and still come straight back down!!!

Im far from a Parker fan, but should he get us promoted (which im not sure he will) then there is no way he should be replaced. He would have fully earnt the right to manage us in the prem.

KlyBfc wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:18 pm

Im far from a Parker fan, but should he get us promoted (which im not sure he will) then there is no way he should be replaced. He would have fully earnt the right to manage us in the prem.

Maybe but playing devil's advocate, isn't that quite a naive way to look at it.

If there's a potentially better manager available and we'd continued with this dour style of play all season, wouldn't it give us a better chance of staying in the division if we could get someone that would excite the fans, attract better players and play a brand of football which could get us a few more goals

Goliath wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:22 pm

Maybe but playing devil's advocate, isn't that quite a naive way to look at it.

If there's a potentially better manager available and we'd continued with this dour style of play all season, wouldn't it give us a better chance of staying in the division if we could get someone that would excite the fans, attract better players and play a brand of football which could get us a few more goals

His pragmatism would actually be more useful in the prem than it is right now.

There's no way we're going up right now in any case.

Well Mourinho said he wants to manage a team near the bottom.

Not that I think we should, or would sack Parker if we go up.

Goliath wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:22 pm

Maybe but playing devil's advocate, isn't that quite a naive way to look at it.

If there's a potentially better manager available and we'd continued with this dour style of play all season, wouldn't it give us a better chance of staying in the division if we could get someone that would excite the fans, attract better players and play a brand of football which could get us a few more goals

Your problem would come with unsettling your best players, the minute the manager is potted the agents will be out looking for moves away

dougcollins wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:26 pm

His pragmatism would actually be more useful in the prem than it is right now.

There's no way we're going up right now in any case.

It has never proven that way before. Parker only gets results with this football when he has better players than the opposition. He's never going to have that in the Premier League.

Walt wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:26 pm

Well Mourinho said he wants to manage a team near the bottom.

Not that I think we should, or would sack Parker if we go up.

If Pace hears that about Mourinho he’ll be on the phone now.

beddie wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:49 pm

If Pace hears that about Mourinho he’ll be on the phone now.

And it'd be a short phone call once Mourinho tells him how much he wants.

There's a lot of work to do in the January transfer window (striker/attacking players) if we are to have any chance of promotion.
In terms of manager, if Parker gets lured to wherever the grass might be greener....bring back Sean, all is forgiven.
Controversial I know!!

lol

KlyBfc wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:18 pm

Im far from a Parker fan, but should he get us promoted (which im not sure he will) then there is no way he should be replaced. He would have fully earnt the right to manage us in the prem.

Does that apply to the players as well? If they get us up should we say they have earned the right and not recruit better players or does it only apply to the manager?
If better quality personnel are available and affordable we would be silly not to upgrade, no matter what their position at the club.

karatekid wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:13 pm

Does that apply to the players as well? If they get us up should we say they have earned the right and not recruit better players or does it only apply to the manager?
If better quality personnel are available and affordable we would be silly not to upgrade, no matter what their position at the club.

Thats different though, as the players can compete, train and fight for the start, the manager is the manager. And yes players who play a pivotal role should be kept on and get the chance in the prem to be around a squad and to prove they are good enough to start, we all saw what trying to completely upgrade did for us last year .

Parker isn’t the guy kicking the ball on the pitch, if he had better players than what he currently has to work with (the team we started the season with for example) he’d do just fine.

Half way through the season and we are 3rd so let's see what January brings, personally i think we will get a striker on loan to a view to sign if we go up and possibly a couple being sold..

Billyblah wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:05 pm

There's a lot of work to do in the January transfer window (striker/attacking players) if we are to have any chance of promotion.
In terms of manager, if Parker gets lured to wherever the grass might be greener....bring back Sean, all is forgiven.
Controversial I know!!

In Sean we trust.

I am one of the minority that enjoyed his British football and all out dying for the cause. Lots of long balls, hold up, pass to winger, down the line, cross, in the mix, cleared or goal but uncomfortable for the prem defences.

Crowd right in the action at both ends. Not asleep for 20 mins with this 'payience' football, whilst the opposition have a sit down, waiting for us to get up there.

You do appreciate there's a whole load of middle ground between Parker and Dyche - it doesn't have to be one extreme or the other?

The squad we have are nowhere near 17th in any PL ever. We would need to spend a fortune we haven’t got to stay up. Get used to boing boing and enjoy it. A season of watching some of the best players in the world followed by a season of challenging for promotion.

No question that the person who gets us promoted has earned the right to lead us in the Prem.

As for sacking them early, it would seem pointless. Watching the Prem, this season and last, it is drifting further away from clubs like Burnley to maintain a presence. Even the so called smaller clubs have sugar daddies, when my head rules my heart we can't compete with that. Not without a massive piece of luck. In hindsight we fell lucky on the timing of our promotions.

I still think we had a squad good enough to stay up under Kompany, but a lack of pragmatism cost us dearly. We need to focus on making a profit on saleable assets and build a fighting fund for future promotions. It isn't going to be easy for fans, especially if they think we have a right to stay up, as Tricky Trevor said, get used to the boing, boing and don't let it make your head drop.

Boing boing is great isn’t it?

If it’s guaranteed. Which it isn’t.

We are unlikely to go up this season. We’ve done really well to stay in touch with the others, but failing to score goals will see us fall away. We can be tighter than a submarine door every week, but if we fail to score, we won’t be anywhere near the top six. Our recent performances have improved (except Derby) but we cannot put teams to the sword. I’m not sure a new striker solves that problem.

Goliath wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:22 pm

... playing devil's advocate, isn't that quite a naive way to look at it.

If there's a potentially better manager available... wouldn't it give us a better chance of staying in the division...

But isn't that exactly the attitude, albeit from the opposite standpoint, that the overwhelming majority of Burnley supporters condemned Owen Coyle for taking?

Need a striker in, or we can forget it. IMO

AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:21 pm

But isn't that exactly the attitude, albeit from the opposite standpoint, that the overwhelming majority of Burnley supporters condemned Owen Coyle for taking?

Gone over my head this one. How so? We were above Bolton and about to bring in Jack Wilshere, Stuart Holden and Vladimir Weiss. That would have given us a brilliant chance of staying up.

bobinho wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:08 pm

Boing boing is great isn’t it?

If it’s guaranteed. Which it isn’t.

We are unlikely to go up this season. We’ve done really well to stay in touch with the others, but failing to score goals will see us fall away. We can be tighter than a submarine door every week, but if we fail to score, we won’t be anywhere near the top six. Our recent performances have improved (except Derby) but we cannot put teams to the sword. I’m not sure a new striker solves that problem.

And yet many probably think West Brom will be thereabouts the play offs. A team who can't score either.

Goliath wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:11 pm

In the hypothetical situation that we get promoted at the end of the season, we would probably have a lot of much better options than last summer as a potential manager.

In that scenario could we be one of the first to sack a manager straight after promotion?
Unlikely but would be an interesting scenario, not sure if it's ever happened before.

Are you serious?

Quicknick wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:57 am

Are you serious?

He can’t be. Threads about replacing the Manager when we are third in the league or when we hypothetically get promoted are so far removed from reality it’s untrue. Modern day football fans eh?

Not everything has to be taken completely serious. As I said it's a hypothetical scenario.

Staniola wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:19 am

He can’t be. Threads about replacing the Manager when we are third in the league or when we hypothetically get promoted are so far removed from reality it’s untrue. Modern day football fans eh?

Exactly.